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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ChrisRiss » Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:22 pm

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adamage1 wrote:It appears TF Source is now accepting preorders for the WFC-E29 Seeker 2-pack Target exclusive for a notably higher price point of $109.99: https://tfsource.com/transformers-war-f ... ekers-set/

All while Target now says shipping is unavailable. It makes me almost want to pay that much, but it's almost double the price for 2 voyagers. I'm holding out hope that maybe stores around me might get some in stock eventually, and they don't all get bought up by scalpers.

As soon as I saw the “in stock” notice on Target’s site for my local store, I drove over, and while there were none on the shelves, a helpful employee looked on his handheld device and said there some in the stock room, so he went and found one for me and brought it up front. At this point, if you can’t find it in Target stores, that may be the best price you see since they are going for around $150 on Ebay.

Yeah, I have been checking the stock for my stores several times a day lately, and they have not gotten any in at all, in like the whole state of North Carolina yet. I'm hoping that they do soon, it seems crazy that they haven't yet.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:25 pm

adamage1 wrote:
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adamage1 wrote:It appears TF Source is now accepting preorders for the WFC-E29 Seeker 2-pack Target exclusive for a notably higher price point of $109.99: https://tfsource.com/transformers-war-f ... ekers-set/

All while Target now says shipping is unavailable. It makes me almost want to pay that much, but it's almost double the price for 2 voyagers. I'm holding out hope that maybe stores around me might get some in stock eventually, and they don't all get bought up by scalpers.

As soon as I saw the “in stock” notice on Target’s site for my local store, I drove over, and while there were none on the shelves, a helpful employee looked on his handheld device and said there some in the stock room, so he went and found one for me and brought it up front. At this point, if you can’t find it in Target stores, that may be the best price you see since they are going for around $150 on Ebay.


I would recommend waiting things out a little bit. Last year the Rainmakers set trickled out similarly, then were out in full force and by back to school time, many stores were clearancing them. They also came into and out of stock on Target's website a couple times as well with a few of the times being available for a while, not just blink and you miss it.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:54 pm

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While I did see rainmakers on more then one occasion, I certainly cant imagine them going on clearance. They, and the minicon 10- pack sold very quickly in my area.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:02 pm

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o.supreme wrote:While I did see rainmakers on more then one occasion, I certainly cant imagine them going on clearance. They, and the MICROMASTER 10- pack sold very quickly in my area.
They went on clearance where I live, got marked down to $50.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:05 pm

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I'm not sweating the seeker two pack. If the Rainmakers are anything to go by, we'll be swimming in them in a month or so.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:43 pm

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sol magnus wrote:I'm not sweating the seeker two pack. If the Rainmakers are anything to go by, we'll be swimming in them in a month or so.

For sure. These are not limited and every piece of stock destined to the US is going to Target so these will be easier for Americans to find than most mainline releases.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby adamage1 » Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:09 pm

sol magnus wrote:I'm not sweating the seeker two pack. If the Rainmakers are anything to go by, we'll be swimming in them in a month or so.

I wouldn’t bet on it. The demand for these—particularly considering that in the past Thundercracker and Skywarp were virtually never released together, with one of them virtually always being a huge pain to track down for purchase—will be *very* high, far more than the rainmakers, which are much more of a niche group of characters.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:18 pm

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adamage1 wrote:
sol magnus wrote:I'm not sweating the seeker two pack. If the Rainmakers are anything to go by, we'll be swimming in them in a month or so.

I wouldn’t bet on it. The demand for these—particularly considering that in the past Thundercracker and Skywarp were virtually never released together, with one of them virtually always being a huge pain to track down for purchase—will be *very* high, far more than the rainmakers, which are much more of a niche group of characters.


It will be the Siege Skywarp thing all over again. That 2-pack will be SCALPED to hell and back.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:51 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:WHAT WAS THE BIG IDEA TO MAKE IT AN EXCLUSIVE? :HEADHURTS:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:00 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:WHAT WAS THE BIG IDEA TO MAKE IT AN EXCLUSIVE? :HEADHURTS:
Maybe Target and Walmart turned down selling the figure at normal retail.


I'm actually talking about the 2 pack, who is a Target exclusive. And if it's a Target exclusive down south, it will be an exclusive of some sort up north too.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby MadProject » Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:14 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Primal » Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:27 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:WHAT WAS THE BIG IDEA TO MAKE IT AN EXCLUSIVE? :HEADHURTS:
Maybe Target and Walmart turned down selling the figure at normal retail.


I'm actually talking about the 2 pack, who is a Target exclusive. And if it's a Target exclusive down south, it will be an exclusive of some sort up north too.

And because Skywarp and TC are characters that every fans want, they will be scalper fodder in no time flat unless Hasbro is flooding the market.

Well, it's been a good run guys, but I guess I have to throw in the towel, apparently I can't be a fan anymore because I don't want this 2-pack. >:oP

In all seriousness, it's highly likely these two are exclusives like this because that was the only way for them to be released. This is just how most of the repaint characters get sold now, due to the limited nature of the mainline slots, as we've seen with half of the Siege Datsuns and 6/8 of the Siege Seekers. It's either this 2-pack, or we lose Snapdragon and Thrust or some other combination of Voyagers to make room for these two, and then the ones that got replaced become exclusives or don't get made.

...that being said, I'm also still annoyed that the ER Seeker mold is a thing not even a year after the excellent Siege one, let alone that I think it looks bad in every form we've seen it so far (not counting the mistransformed leaked Thrust, since we haven't really seen it in it's proper form), so this isn't an argument I actually have stake in.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:32 pm

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I think they did the smart move making those seekers a 2 pack. Siege had a retail Starscream and Thundercracker, if anything Earthrise should have had the retail Skywarp. Those 3 have come out enough that at least 1 and maybe 2 should be exclusive, they can make room for others.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:45 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby adamage1 » Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:49 pm

Nemesis Primal wrote:...that being said, I'm also still annoyed that the ER Seeker mold is a thing not even a year after the excellent Siege one, let alone that I think it looks bad in every form we've seen it so far (not counting the mistransformed leaked Thrust, since we haven't really seen it in it's proper form), so this isn't an argument I actually have stake in.

I had much the same response.... until I had these figures in hand. They are far away the best “feeling” figures in the main line in a very long time. The plastic has a heft and feel unlike even the Siege line did. The joints are extremely stable and tight without being immovable, the paint is fantastic, and even the weapon “C.O.M.B.A.T.” ports are tighter than the tetrajet versions, which were rather loose on both Starscream and Thundercracker. The gaps in the sides of the abdomens are a bummer, but other than that they look phenomenal on the shelf, and they are definitely the best looking mainline seekers ever released.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Bombshell0001 » Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:50 pm

Any luck in the mid atlantic states ? Alos Target emailed me saying they were back in stock and a minute after the email still said not in stock . Really they fumbled this .
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby adamage1 » Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:56 pm

Bombshell0001 wrote:Any luck in the mid atlantic states ? Alos Target emailed me saying they were back in stock and a minute after the email still said not in stock . Really they fumbled this .

I found mine in the Midwest towards the end of last week, so I am not certain how the rest of the country is looking. Have you looked at Brickseek?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ChrisRiss » Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:05 pm

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Bombshell0001 wrote:Any luck in the mid atlantic states ? Alos Target emailed me saying they were back in stock and a minute after the email still said not in stock . Really they fumbled this .

In NC with no luck, been watching Target and Brickseek's websites. Yeah, I got two of those emails, and they were sold out instantly both times. Now they aren't shipping from Target's website at all it seems. Keeping up some hope that we will see them in stores soon.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Bombshell0001 » Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:07 pm

That is why it is stupid to have 2 major characters as an exclusive . Brickseek and the other one is all out of stock . I just emailed Hasbro about it too .
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:36 pm

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It's a big mistake comparing a two pack of popular characters to a more expensive three pack of nobodies. It's unlikely these guys will be sticking around in stores for long, especially if you're like me and only have access to one Target that everyone in my area will HAVE to go to if they want one. I don't really trust the website to tell me what's in stock and I can never find anyone to help me get stuff from the back, and they've now turned off all of their price scanners so I can't even check for myself. I was there Monday, couldn't find this end cap people are talking about and there's no place set aside for them in the Transformers section. Plus they just restocked their one peg for WFC Deluxe with Siege Deluxe and their one little row for WFC with nothing but Siege Megatron and Thundercracker. Guess I wont be going there for Earthrise stuff.

Meanwhile, it looks like angry fans are review bombing the set on Target.com. Currently has one written review of 5.0 and eight unwritten reviews of unknown amount bringing the overall score down to 3.3. Target doesn't break down their scores like Amazon does and there are probably a few legit ones, but also probably a bunch of 1 stars.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Tuned Agent » Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:42 pm

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Nemesis Primal wrote:In all seriousness, it's highly likely these two are exclusives like this because that was the only way for them to be released. This is just how most of the repaint characters get sold now, due to the limited nature of the mainline slots, as we've seen with half of the Siege Datsuns and 6/8 of the Siege Seekers. It's either this 2-pack, or we lose Snapdragon and Thrust or some other combination of Voyagers to make room for these two, and then the ones that got replaced become exclusives or don't get made.

...that being said, I'm also still annoyed that the ER Seeker mold is a thing not even a year after the excellent Siege one, let alone that I think it looks bad in every form we've seen it so far (not counting the mistransformed leaked Thrust, since we haven't really seen it in it's proper form), so this isn't an argument I actually have stake in.

^^ This. There's only so much space in the mainline, especially given that HasTak wants to produce all of the seekers in the same line. Gone are the days when the Classics seekers were released over a 4-5 year span - 4 years from now we'll probably be looking at another new "definitive" seeker mold.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Delta Supreme » Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:29 pm

Tuned Agent wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:In all seriousness, it's highly likely these two are exclusives like this because that was the only way for them to be released. This is just how most of the repaint characters get sold now, due to the limited nature of the mainline slots, as we've seen with half of the Siege Datsuns and 6/8 of the Siege Seekers. It's either this 2-pack, or we lose Snapdragon and Thrust or some other combination of Voyagers to make room for these two, and then the ones that got replaced become exclusives or don't get made.

...that being said, I'm also still annoyed that the ER Seeker mold is a thing not even a year after the excellent Siege one, let alone that I think it looks bad in every form we've seen it so far (not counting the mistransformed leaked Thrust, since we haven't really seen it in it's proper form), so this isn't an argument I actually have stake in.

^^ This. There's only so much space in the mainline, especially given that HasTak wants to produce all of the seekers in the same line. Gone are the days when the Classics seekers were released over a 4-5 year span - 4 years from now we'll probably be looking at another new "definitive" seeker mold.


Probably not the "truly definitive" F-15 style, but I can see the next set heading back to F-22 style...
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby adamage1 » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:37 pm

That endcap display people have been mentioning was finally erected at the Fargo Target. They had one Seeker 2-Pack available on the shelf. It was indeed nowhere near the standard action figure aisle, which also still had quite a few TF figures displayed there as well. This was located near the toddler/young children toy aisles.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ChrisRiss » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:42 pm

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adamage1 wrote:That endcap display people have been mentioning was finally erected at the Fargo Target. They had one Seeker 2-Pack available on the shelf. It was indeed nowhere near the standard action figure aisle, which also still had quite a few TF figures displayed there as well. This was located near the toddler/young children toy aisles.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Bombshell0001 » Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:43 pm

Yes 2 Targets by me have the end cap set up but no product . I contacted Hasbro about it and they did not reply yet .
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