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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:32 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:48 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Has there ever been a Really Good looking Copter Bot??

Yes, you can read all about my number 1 pick (and others) here: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... oys/34612/



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Wow, you had that covered too. :APPLAUSE: As an aside, having just finished the first few arcs of MTMTE, via the Partwork, Whirl (both in design and character) might be one of the worst characters I've seen in IDWverse so far. Including Tailgate and Swerve, this series is really not impressing me in the slightest.


Back on topic, Yes, Skyhammer is a thing of beauty ;)^
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Ominous Sand » Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:35 pm

I want there to be a masterpiece Prowl repaint to be this g1 styled barricade. I think that would be nice
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Albatross250 » Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:37 pm

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I'd still hope if Spinister appears on the line, then we might have a chance of getting Armada Cyclonus.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:51 pm

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Or Cyclonus Armada ;)

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:07 pm

Shellformer Starscream just make him easier to paint to make more seekers! :lol:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:11 pm

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Skritz wrote:Shellformer Starscream just make him easier to paint to make more seekers! :lol:



The possibilities... :lol:

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:12 pm

Also I guess the pyramid being separate mean it would be easier to mod it and add new kibble to make Coneheads. Not that I have any clue if coneheads had different wings in their tetrajet modes: perhaps one could headcanon it as some kind of earth addition?

Does the mold even have space for a cone head? :-?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:15 pm

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Based on Thrust, I did posit that Cybertronian Coneheads could be some Tetrajet-Osprey hybrid (akin to the VTOL jets on Transmetal Megatron). To differentiate them from the default Seekers
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:28 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I'll just leave this here...

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That looks nice, but something about the altmode looks..off, in comparison to the SIEGE Tetrajets? Also Dirge is 7/10 in Intelligence?? :lol:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:30 pm

To be fair, Coneheads weren't designed as such in toy form. Their iconic and distinct head design is one born of the Sunbow animation models, based off some kibble you can pop up on the toy.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:35 pm

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All the more reason they should make a more unique Tetrajet design. Perhaps even more pointed, like the original Tetrajet designs from Sunbow

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:38 pm

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o.supreme wrote:While I personally do not plan to get Barricade because it doesn't fit into my collection I think it looks good. I just think it's the reverse engineering aspect that is throwing some fans off. Taking a figure that initially was not part of the *best years* of the original series, and making him appear to fit in


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Is that an actual toy someone made, or a digibash? That's kind of cool 8-)

Also, slightly OT...if you could retroactively alter your best 5 Copterbots, would SS Blackout have a place in the top five now?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:43 pm

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o.supreme wrote:Also, slightly OT...if you could retroactively alter your best 5 Copterbots, would SS Blackout have a place in the top five now?

Honestly, I dont really know. He isn't as obvious as the others, in that there are quite a few cons to go with the pros. And I havent tansformed him much since I first got him, that might be indicative of something.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Hydrargyrus » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:35 pm

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This line is heavily based on nostalgia. A significant part of the ‘84 and ‘85 lines was redecos. The new barricade, as a what-if of sorts, plays on that. It also saves Hasbro money to make more toys. Frankly, it doesn’t matter what the original intent was, as both are happening. Personally, Barricade may end up being represented by this mold for me and Prowl will be the redeco I don’t get.
Not trying to start arguments; I just thought maybe some people hadn’t thought of it this way yet.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:40 pm

MagicDeath wrote:This line is heavily based on nostalgia. A significant part of the ‘84 and ‘85 lines was redecos. The new barricade, as a what-if of sorts, plays on that. It also saves Hasbro money to make more toys. Frankly, it doesn’t matter what the original intent was, as both are happening. Personally, Barricade may end up being represented by this mold for me and Prowl will be the redeco I don’t get.
Not trying to start arguments; I just thought maybe some people hadn’t thought of it this way yet.
Edit: I didn’t realize there was another page and this wasn’t being discussed anymore. Feel free to ignore.


However, cross-factional redeco did not exist early in G1. Autobots were redecoed into other Autobots and Decepticon into other Decepticons, mainly because outside of Stunticons and Aerialbots there was generally a soft rule on what each faction had for altmodes.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:44 pm

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Reminds me of a line I read once on Pre-determination, concerning Megatron. It said "It's hard to be the good guy when you're a gun"
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Ultra Markus » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:16 pm

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i get that it would be hard to have a tetrajet turn into the iconic seeker robot
so this doesnt really bother me besides they shellformed in the cartoon anyway
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:15 pm

Starscream could also be modded into an actionmaster! :lol:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:15 pm

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I just watched the SIEGE Starscream review from Grim Trigger. I've got to say, I'm happy with how he turned out. He's not perfect, but he's fantastic nonetheless. Even though Starscream's a robot with a tetra jet on his back, the transformation is still involved, and little things such as how the robot mode shoulder pauldrons are formed from the nosecone of the jet are neat. He does have a bit of an undercarriage in alt mode, but the designers did their best to integrate the robot kibble, like having thrusters in the feet and turning the air intakes on the chest into additional thrusters that match the cluster of three already on the back of the jet. The "faux cockpit" on the back for the sake of the G1 robot design doesn't even look that out of place and could just be a secondary gunner cockpit that's rear-facing. I love how articulated the wings are as well. Starscream seems to be very poseable, and he just looks so good in robot mode too. Even from the back, his kibble doesn't look out of place or just stuck there because there was no place better to put it. The design is very cohesive and the silhouette works from all angles. I also like that he doesn't have hollow forearms. That seems to be a luxury nowadays. I can hardly wait to get SIEGE Starscream at this point. I've been waiting for a good Voyager sized Starscream/Seeker mold for Classics/Generations for YEARS. This is the closest we've even been, and unlike the Power of the Primes figure, this one is VERY satisfying, even if it isn't 100% ideal.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:23 pm

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Skritz wrote:Starscream could also be modded into an actionmaster! :lol:
Oh, if only this mold deco layout was doable:

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Fires_Of_Inferno » Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:29 pm

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Re: Transformers Artist Guido Guidi Confirms his Involvement in Siege Barricade's Design

Postby Lore Keeper » Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:53 pm

Wolfman Jake wrote:That should make it easier to retool him into a proper Earth-mode jet. :-?

Ya know, I think this is actually a thing they're doing. Most of these figures seemed designed to be modular enough to double as Earth mode versions. Seige Optimus is a good example.
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Re: Transformers Artist Guido Guidi Confirms his Involvement in Siege Barricade's Design

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:16 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:That should make it easier to retool him into a proper Earth-mode jet. :-?

Ya know, I think this is actually a thing they're doing. Most of these figures seemed designed to be modular enough to double as Earth mode versions. Seige Optimus is a good example.

Especially with Hound. His front bumper could easily be changed for an Earth bumper
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