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[Munkky]

That Sideswipe looks lovely, even if it doesn't have the G2 Autobot symbol. For those who have the Sideswipe and Skytread moulds, how are they? Because I might buy the Firestorm pack when it's out.

[frogbat]

Sideswipe's a little gem. He's dismissed because of previous iterations and he's a bit simplistic, but tbh, the simple and intuitive transformation make him one of my recent faves. The weapons could be better and am tempted to buy a 3p upgrade set for him, and the white plastic seems a bit yellowish.

Re sky tread - he's a great figure.. fun too but suffers from 2 flaws when transforming his tank mode - there's not enough slack for the gun to sit properly and it can be a bit tough to close the top part properly. Otherwise a great addition, I had battle trap and this one is better because he's much less fiddly to transform as he doesn't have the 2 separate robot modes.

in short - both figures thoroughly recommended.

[Big Grim]

Isn't Slamdance the wrong way round? A nice try but definitely a pass.

Sure but like you say, it's a nice attempt. I really dig it myself. It helps that Flywheels is a damn nice mold.

[Sabrblade]

I know the G2 Sideswipe has its fans but i think it is a wasted slot when Deep Cover, Clampdown or even Tigertrack could've been used instead.

Especially now that they're embracing Soundblaster as a separate entity from Soundwave.

Have I missed something? When did this news that sound blaster is separate to Soundwave come out? I know we're getting the toy as part of the 35th subset but as far as I'm aware that was it.

I should've quoted for continuity (my bad) i was aluding to the below

mentre83 wrote:
It's nice to see Slam Dance back, even if not in cassette form.

G2 Sideswipe instead is quite pointless, unless it is meant to represent a new character sharing its deco (something that I previously read referred to Soundblaster).

I do think it's a good idea though give him Enemy, Stage-Dive, Glit, Garboil & Howlback

But what was mentre83 talking about when claiming Soundblaster was separate from Soundwave? The only instances when that happened were those under extenuating circumstances. The most prominent version of Soundblaster is Soundwave himself in a new body.

[william-james88]

Re sky tread - he's a great figure.. fun too but suffers from 2 flaws when transforming his tank mode - there's not enough slack for the gun to sit properly and it can be a bit tough to close the top part properly.

He becomes a really great toy once you fix that part:


https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/ ... x.1163395/

[Coptur]

Re sky tread - he's a great figure.. fun too but suffers from 2 flaws when transforming his tank mode - there's not enough slack for the gun to sit properly and it can be a bit tough to close the top part properly.

He becomes a really great toy once you fix that part:


https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/ ... x.1163395/

neat i'll have to do this

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Isn't Slamdance the wrong way round? A nice try but definitely a pass.

Sure but like you say, it's a nice attempt. I really dig it myself. It helps that Flywheels is a damn nice mold.

He is the wrong way around, but the colors on the individual vehicles do match the G1 versions, which is more important. New head too, nice. Seeing "Raindance" and "Grand Slam" on the box would truly be icing on the cake.

G2 Sideswipe is a good choice IMHO, considering the previous version was a BotCon exclusive, a Customising Class figure to boot so very hard to find:



The Battle Masters, I have no idea who they could be, they could be new, they could have names plucked the Double Targetmasters or Action Master partners, who knows? I can only ID the molds used: Pteraxadon, Aimless and Firedrive for Skywarp, and Blowpipe for Sideswipe and Slamdance. I'm relieved, I can get regular Aimless now

[KVO Prime]

This is like those promos where there's one item you want but you have to buy all the crap that comes with it to get it. Leader class price points just because they come with little targetmasters? What if I don't want to pay that high of a price. I like it better when they keep the meat and potatoes separate. I want Skywarp but not at leader price. Ugh.

[Coptur]

This is like those promos where there's one item you want but you have to buy all the crap that comes with it to get it. Leader class price points just because they come with little targetmasters? What if I don't want to pay that high of a price. I like it better when they keep the meat and potatoes separate. I want Skywarp but not at leader price. Ugh.

yep couldn't agree more

I want Greenlight & Skywarp but begrudge paying top tier for toys that don't deserve the price point even shockwave was vastly over priced

[Sabrblade]

Y'all are acting like this is something new when we've had this same kind of exclusive boxed set stuff before with the Titans Return boxed sets and all the BotCon boxed sets.

And, seriously, no one is forcing any of you to buy these. If you don't want them, don't buy them.

[o.supreme]

Or as others have suggested, sell the parts you don't want and get a little money back. There's always a demand on the secondary market for individual components of some sets. I really wanted to the exclusive Prime Masters that came with Punch & Blastoff, but not the figures themselves (I already had UW Blastoff, and I didn't want Punch), so thankfully i foudn them right away at a reasonable price, but now, you'd be hard pressed to find them.

If anyone gets Skywarp, and doesn't want the 3 BattleMasters, let me know, I'll pay fair compensation for them.

[gothsaurus]

I think the takeaway here is that Hasbro is planning some exclusive sets for niche markets. Even if one of these toys doesn't hit your OWN personal niche, we should ALL be rejoicing that they are doing this. We don't have Botcon to fill that gap, so I'm so glad they found an avenue for some oddities.

As for me — someone who witnessed the downfall of the franchise with the end of G1 toys and comics — the resurrection of Transformers in G2 was a joyous occasion. The comic had fantastic art by Geoff Senior and writing by Furman. The vintage molds returned to the shelf with a fresh twist.

SO I'll be first in line to get this G2 Sideswipe. It evokes great memories and stands for the franchise's return to greatness.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Primus I'm blind: I just now realised the Battle Masters are color-matched with their owner. That means the one in the Firestormer pack is matched to G2 Sideswipe. Would that mean he's enhanced with forestonite as well?

[Gauntlet101010]

If I was in a different place in my life Siege would have me so excited! But right now I'm mostly happy about Greenlight. Out of everyone here she has me the most happy because I just don't have any version of her at all. She's one step towards my goal of getting all the Seasons 1 - the movie characters. Bring on Lancer.

Reason why you don't have a version of her is because this is her first toy period. Not even third parties have made her. I'm really excited to see first time figures and I'll definitely try to get her.

Oh, I know. That's what makes me so happy about it.

Where I am now, I have to be pickier about my purchases. And, I have to admit, buying multiples of the same character isn't always great, even if the new mould is an improvement. Like, Jetfire looks awesome, but I'm happy with 30 Jetfire and I was decently happy with Classics, I don't actually *need* a new version for my collection to be considered complete.

But Greenlight fills a few niches. Female TF, Season 1 -> the movie character, character who never got a toy ... it's all good. It'd be nice if there were more female TF moulds, but that's okay. I'm really glad I get to flesh out my cast.

[Skritz]

Y'all are acting like this is something new when we've had this same kind of exclusive boxed set stuff before with the Titans Return boxed sets and all the BotCon boxed sets.

And, seriously, no one is forcing any of you to buy these. If you don't want them, don't buy them.

The difference with these is that I don't have to travel to another country to a packed convention or scour the aftermarket for x300 times the original price. Yeah they are overpriced exclusives but they're nowhere as bad as the Botcon stuff.

[william-james88]

Y'all are acting like this is something new when we've had this same kind of exclusive boxed set stuff before with the Titans Return boxed sets and all the BotCon boxed sets.

And, seriously, no one is forcing any of you to buy these. If you don't want them, don't buy them.

The difference with these is that I don't have to travel to another country to a packed convention or scour the aftermarket for x300 times the original price. Yeah they are overpriced exclusives but they're nowhere as bad as the Botcon stuff.

I am honestly surprised over this discussion. The Titans Return multipacks gave us a good idea of what Hasbro had in store for us and people were very much on board with them. The only issue was the availability in certain markets. this is more of the same but on a smaller scale.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Y'all are acting like this is something new when we've had this same kind of exclusive boxed set stuff before with the Titans Return boxed sets and all the BotCon boxed sets.

And, seriously, no one is forcing any of you to buy these. If you don't want them, don't buy them.

The difference with these is that I don't have to travel to another country to a packed convention or scour the aftermarket for x300 times the original price. Yeah they are overpriced exclusives but they're nowhere as bad as the Botcon stuff.

Overpriced? Lets see here:

Firestormers
G2 Sideswipe, Deluxe: $20
Slamdance, Deluxe: $20
"G2 Sideswipe's Battle Master": $6

Total: $46

Skywarp
Skywarp, Voyager: $30
"Battle Master Trio": 3 x $6 = $18

Total: $48

Considering Hasbro doesn't believe bulk lowers the price, and rounds up to the nearest Price Point, Leader at $50? Yeah, paying a few bucks more than one should, but that's been the name of the game

[william-james88]

Y'all are acting like this is something new when we've had this same kind of exclusive boxed set stuff before with the Titans Return boxed sets and all the BotCon boxed sets.

And, seriously, no one is forcing any of you to buy these. If you don't want them, don't buy them.

The difference with these is that I don't have to travel to another country to a packed convention or scour the aftermarket for x300 times the original price. Yeah they are overpriced exclusives but they're nowhere as bad as the Botcon stuff.

Overpriced? Lets see here:

Firestormers
G2 Sideswipe, Deluxe: $20
Slamdance, Deluxe: $20
"G2 Sideswipe's Battle Master": $6

Total: $46

Skywarp
Skywarp, Voyager: $30
"Battle Master Trio": 3 x $6 = $18

Total: $48

Considering Hasbro doesn't believe bulk lowers the price, and rounds up to the nearest Price Point, Leader at $50? Yeah, paying a few bucks more than one should, but that's been the name of the game

Just so we are clear, the leader price point mentioned was based on comparable listings in another currency. It is to give a ballpark idea of what this will cost. It can be that the sets end up a little higher when the actual USD price is revealed. Not much though since this is all in line with the idea of rounding up and not not lowering the price on bulk (which I realize now was never the case with Hasbro).

[o.supreme]

Agreed. With CW Box Sets you got a Voyager (roughly $25 at the time) 4 deluxes ($15 x 4 at the time) and a legends ($10 at the time) that equals $95.00, most box sets were $100, except for the Platinum LioKaiser.

For TR those sets came with a Leader ($45 at the time) Voyager ($25 at the time) Deluxe ($15 at the time), Legends Class ($10 at the time), and a *die-cast* TM most valued around $5.00 So that equals exactly $100, which is what the Velocitron set cost at TRU. The exclusivity of the Siege set priced it a little more, but, even now, almost 2 years later -the price did go up for a time, but these seem to have found new stock with online retailers since BBTS & TFSource both have them in stock currently for $119.00.

Add on to that, since some individual components are obviously more highly desired than others, you can sell certain ones for quite a nice profit, and even take a loss on some others if you are just looking to get rid of them.

The only part that doesn't make sense is this... The Combiner Wars sets obviously had a Theme. The TR ones did, if you squinted really hard (Speed, Strength, etc...)

But...The Firestormer pack is as about as Random and without purpose as you can get...I guess it could be worse and they could have included Greenlight and tried to sell it for $70 (so glad they did not), but G2 Sideswipe & Slamdance would have been much better off sold separately.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Add on to that, since some individual components are obviously more highly desired than others, you can sell certain ones for quite a nice profit, and even take a loss on some others if you are just looking to get rid of them.

I can see G2 Sideswipe doing well on the aftermarket, given his BCCC predecessor. Almost makes me want to get Siege Swipe in preparation

[chuckdawg1999]

Y'all are acting like this is something new when we've had this same kind of exclusive boxed set stuff before with the Titans Return boxed sets and all the BotCon boxed sets.

And, seriously, no one is forcing any of you to buy these. If you don't want them, don't buy them.

But if you want the character this is the only way to get it so there really isn't a choice is there? Also for all we know the poor guy could be hanging over a vat of acid and his only hope of being let down is to buy the Skywarp set.

There are still some of us who remember buying figures in a set meant you got a bit of a deal over buying them separately, those days are gone I guess.

[Skritz]

Well at any rate, I do want that Skywarp and I like the Battlemaster molds so I'll figure out a use in my collection for these guys. Purple ptero-dudeis definitely becoming the Battlemaster to my Hun-Gurr, for one thing. Don't know if any of those will get a name or be assigned the identity of pre-existing Targetmasters. Guess we'll see.

[william-james88]

There are still some of us who remember buying figures in a set meant you got a bit of a deal over buying them separately, those days are gone I guess.

When was the last time that actually happened with Transformers?

[Skritz]

There are still some of us who remember buying figures in a set meant you got a bit of a deal over buying them separately, those days are gone I guess.

When was the last time that actually happened with Transformers?

Hey at least we had the G2 sets for Combiner Wars.

...except Defensor.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

There are still some of us who remember buying figures in a set meant you got a bit of a deal over buying them separately, those days are gone I guess.

When was the last time that actually happened with Transformers?

That actually did happen, albeit rarely, especially with dedicated sets. The latest that comes to mind was that yellow RiD Landfill redeco for Black Friday 2003, sold at the price of 2 of his 4 components.

At any rate, I have my sights set on the Firestormers set and Greenlight. Skywarp, eh... may hunt for the FoC version of him and Thundercracker. The Skywarp Battle Masters are appealing, but that's my love for small figures talking