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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Primal » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:00 pm

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...so I got my girlfriend hooked on the old IDW comics, so she went to the local comic store in the mall to grab some books yesterday, which I already knew stocked actual TFs as well. What I didn't know though, is that they apparently get figures straight from Hasbro rather than from the warehouses, so they get some stuff earlier than local retail, which means...
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I'm so happy, and now I know where I'll be going to look for Wave 3 stuff. I also have more in-hand pics if anyone is interested, but I feel like he's not quite as relevant at this point.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:28 pm

Motto: "Earthrise restock or riot"
By all means, take pics. Possibly with Weaponizer parts thrown in for extra overkill.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:57 pm

Since I've been told many times that our opinions as grognard fans has no common group with what a kid think: what DO kids think of Siege so far? Does anyone here have kids that play with the Siege toys? Do they find them cool? Or is this truly just a line for crusty grognards. Just wondering.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nathaniel Prime » Sun Jun 09, 2019 4:38 pm

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Skritz wrote:Since I've been told many times that our opinions as grognard fans has no common group with what a kid think: what DO kids think of Siege so far? Does anyone here have kids that play with the Siege toys? Do they find them cool? Or is this truly just a line for crusty grognards. Just wondering.


Every kid I met with so far has loved the line. Between the awesome new versions of fan favorites to introducing new characters, kids have loved what we got so far. They especially love the Weaponizers, and they cannot get enough of them.

This line has been a real hit on both the kids and the adults ;)^
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Sun Jun 09, 2019 4:53 pm

I'm just wondering because I've know people who, introduced through the Bay movies-era onward, that seem to think the classics look is 'dumb'. >:oP
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:03 pm

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I used to think Jack Kirby art was not that impressive when I was a kid. When I got older (grognard) I gained a lot more appreciation and love for his work and what it meant, not just how it looked. Appreciation and criticism all comes from a perspective sometimes that perspective changes in time - retro and classic become stylish terms know what I mean? I think I appreciate it getting them into the fandom at all then we can get our greedy grognard gloves on em and help steer them where to go what to see all the different awesome perspectives of the Transformer world. Bring us your Bayformers your tired and weary, let us show you the way :lol:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:38 am

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I'd rather let the young ones have their likes and if they prefer the newer looks, then so be it. I always think the franchise should be moving forward.

Having said that, end of the day, kids do just want awesome toys to play with, so as long as they hold up well, don't fall apart, they aren't asking a lot.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:04 am

Motto: "Earthrise restock or riot"
I expect Galaxy Upgrade Optimus and his giant wings and guns will be a favorite of the kiddies.
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* Cybertron Galvatron key, missiles
* Omega Lock
* Primus Cyber Key, coattail panel
* Powerlinx Comettor
* Cyb Jetfire R gun and missile
* RiD Galvy dragon head, beast arms
* DotM Ironhide windshield, R hood assy.
* ROTF Jetfire R JTFR panel

Di Bonaventura is not a credible or trustworthy source. And most fans do like the diversity push, thanks.

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New Video Review of Transformers War for Cybertron Siege Deluxe Class Weaponizer Brunt

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:47 am

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Greetings Seibertronians! Today we bring a new video review of the forthcoming Transformers War for Cybertron Siege Deluxe Class Weaponizer Brunt!

The review comes from fellow Seibertron user, Chuckdawg1999 and this is what he has to say about this Con!

Chuckdawg1999 wrote:Brunt is the first Decepticon Weaponizer in the line and it's not great. While vehicle and robot modes are solid, it's individual components are lacking and just not as fun as Sixgun or Cog. If you have a warm spot in your heart for Trypticons old partner drone then this might be worth a purchase for you.


Check out the review that has been embedded below for your convenience!



Brunt is the third Weaponizer in the Siege line and the toy shares a design for centurion drones from IDWs Transformers: Stormbringer miniseries. Brunt is usually a component of Trypticon, in the same vein of Cog and Fortress Maximus and Six-Gun and Metroplex.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:15 am

Motto: "Earthrise restock or riot"
I'm not all that surprised Brunt turned out a bit more limited than Six Gun and Cog. I mean, Six Gun's G1 toy was the original weaponizer, Cog's arm design lends itself to the gimmick... While for Brunt they had to make up a robot mode because he didn't even have one before, and he only had a single cannon as part of himself. And Iguess there wasn't room in the budget to include the two guns that mounted to the original Brunt's treads in Trypticon's ship/battle station mode.
Doesn't stop me from wanting him.
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* Cybertron Galvatron key, missiles
* Omega Lock
* Primus Cyber Key, coattail panel
* Powerlinx Comettor
* Cyb Jetfire R gun and missile
* RiD Galvy dragon head, beast arms
* DotM Ironhide windshield, R hood assy.
* ROTF Jetfire R JTFR panel

Di Bonaventura is not a credible or trustworthy source. And most fans do like the diversity push, thanks.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Radioactivepanda » Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:20 am

Why has no one reviewed the most important bit about this guy?

How well does he connect to Trypticon?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Lore Keeper » Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:24 am

I just got Brunt yesterday. I think his weapon modes are fine, though there are only two official configurations this time. The only thing that actually bothers me about the toy is that the shoulder mounted cannon can only point up. It doesnt swing forward or anything. He's also quite a bit smaller than his buddy Full-Tilt, but that's a problem of the Siege line itself.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:55 am

Motto: "Tell those damned kids to stay off my lawn!!!"
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Skritz wrote:Since I've been told many times that our opinions as grognard fans has no common group with what a kid think: what DO kids think of Siege so far? Does anyone here have kids that play with the Siege toys? Do they find them cool? Or is this truly just a line for crusty grognards. Just wondering.




My kids (five and six year old boys) love them for about a week, then they get tossed in a toy bin and forgotten about. Without a cartoon to go with it, these aren’t really a big deal to kids. Kids today are far more into roblocks, Minecraft, and legos, in my experience.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:11 am

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00Stargrave00 wrote:I used to think Jack Kirby art was not that impressive when I was a kid. When I got older (grognard) I gained a lot more appreciation and love for his work and what it meant, not just how it looked. Appreciation and criticism all comes from a perspective sometimes that perspective changes in time - retro and classic become stylish terms know what I mean? I think I appreciate it getting them into the fandom at all then we can get our greedy grognard gloves on em and help steer them where to go what to see all the different awesome perspectives of the Transformer world. Bring us your Bayformers your tired and weary, let us show you the way :lol:

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:02 am

Motto: "It’s all the in the reflexes"
Weapon: Glass Gas Gun
Skritz wrote:Since I've been told many times that our opinions as grognard fans has no common group with what a kid think: what DO kids think of Siege so far? Does anyone here have kids that play with the Siege toys? Do they find them cool? Or is this truly just a line for crusty grognards. Just wondering.


I was just responding to Skritz and getting overly sappy about it. I get too wordy sometimes :roll: that’s me eye rolling at myself.

I think Siege is great on so many levels as a fan it would be such a bummer to hear younger fans think it’s ‘meh’ I mean I would have loved these as a kid but we had a cartoon and comics and the works. This has a cartoon in the works to be released super timely like CW/TR/PotP and a comic that nobody’s loving. :BANG_HEAD:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wireless_Phantom » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:06 am

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Radioactivepanda wrote:Why has no one reviewed the most important bit about this guy?

How well does he connect to Trypticon?


I would suggest that you head over to the fan modes thread on tfw2005. Someone showed off some configurations for his integration very recently there.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:11 am

Motto: "This is the most beautiful thing in the entire universe. Ok, give me the bomb."
Weapon: Laser Rifle
00Stargrave00 wrote:
Skritz wrote:Since I've been told many times that our opinions as grognard fans has no common group with what a kid think: what DO kids think of Siege so far? Does anyone here have kids that play with the Siege toys? Do they find them cool? Or is this truly just a line for crusty grognards. Just wondering.


I was just responding to Skritz and getting overly sappy about it. I get too wordy sometimes :roll: that’s me eye rolling at myself.

I think Siege is great on so many levels as a fan it would be such a bummer to hear younger fans think it’s ‘meh’ I mean I would have loved these as a kid but we had a cartoon and comics and the works. This has a cartoon in the works to be released super timely like CW/TR/PotP and a comic that nobody’s loving. :BANG_HEAD:

Sorry. I should have only quoted what I was "wutting" about, which was the whole "I didn't love Jack Kirby" bit.

I know! I’ll admit it I honestly thought the modern at the time art of the 80’s was better I didn’t have proper context or really realize to what extent he wasn’t just drawing but creating and how much he influenced what I was already loving. Now? Now my life would just be empty space without Kirby dots to fill it :lol:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:17 am

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I don't think it would be a bummer, just shows that everyone can have their own Optimus Prime (or a version of like Primal) Some kids joined the fandom knowing only Primal, others would swear that any of the Unicron Trilogy Primes would be theirs. All are welcome, they are all transformers after all.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:06 pm

Motto: "Earthrise restock or riot"
^Cybertron was the show that got me into Transformers and remains my favorite, but I like a lot of the other stuff.

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* Cybertron Galvatron key, missiles
* Omega Lock
* Primus Cyber Key, coattail panel
* Powerlinx Comettor
* Cyb Jetfire R gun and missile
* RiD Galvy dragon head, beast arms
* DotM Ironhide windshield, R hood assy.
* ROTF Jetfire R JTFR panel

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:16 pm

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:^Cybertron was the show that got me into Transformers and remains my favorite, but I like a lot of the other stuff.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:52 pm

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That is awesome! And Cybertron or the trilogy all together was so full of nods and fan service it’s hard not to love something at least one or two things out of each of those series. Even though Armada wasn’t my favorite it gave us Optimus with laser activated pants. Now that... is amazing.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:59 pm

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00Stargrave00 wrote:And Cybertron or the trilogy all together was so full of nods and fan service
It's really only Energon and some of Cybertron that had all those homages. Armada was predominately new stuff, while Energon was the 20th anniversary line and Cybertron just sprinkled in some of that same nostalgia.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:03 pm

Motto: "It’s all the in the reflexes"
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Pretty much all of the names from Armada well placed or not were all pulled from previous series, even the Minicons. It was based around Unicron.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:11 pm

Motto: "Earthrise restock or riot"
Sabrblade wrote:
00Stargrave00 wrote:And Cybertron or the trilogy all together was so full of nods and fan service
It's really only Energon and some of Cybertron that had all those homages. Armada was predominately new stuff, while Energon was the 20th anniversary line and Cybertron just sprinkled in some of that same nostalgia.

Ohhh, I wouldn't say that. Armada had a fair bit of homage in it, particularly in the design department. Armada Optimus, for example, is a composite homage to Powermaster Optimus Prime/Super Ginrai, Star Convoy, and Laser Optimus Prime. Hell, in his Super Mode he even resurrects the Laser Rod gimmick. Jetfire and Overload both take at least some inspiration from Sky Garry and Grandus respectively.
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* Cybertron Galvatron key, missiles
* Omega Lock
* Primus Cyber Key, coattail panel
* Powerlinx Comettor
* Cyb Jetfire R gun and missile
* RiD Galvy dragon head, beast arms
* DotM Ironhide windshield, R hood assy.
* ROTF Jetfire R JTFR panel

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:21 pm

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00Stargrave00 wrote:Pretty much all of the names from Armada well placed or not were all pulled from previous series, even the Minicons.
Purely for Trademark purposes, hence why the guy who vaguely resembled an oddly black, yellow, and white redeco of Sideswipe was named "Wheeljack".

00Stargrave00 wrote:It was based around Unicron.
Not at first. The decision to bring him into the series came late in the game, during the second year of the line. The original intent for the line was just the Mini-Con scavenger hunt to cash in on the Pokemon craze at the time.

The name "Unicron Trilogy" didn't even come about officially until 2009, seven years after Armada began and three years after Cybertron ended. While in Japan, it's instead known as the "Micron Trilogy" (with "Micron" being the Japanese name for "Mini-Con").
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