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[Cyberpath]

Wow, Astrotrain's shuttle-mode looks unfinished.

Pretty cool that this Spinister guy has two cockpits in robot mode but only one in alt-mode. (Yes, I know, like the box-art, you-know who-you-are.)

I still have those combiner microrobots it's amusing to see them redone.

Apeface is definitely the star here.

(Still no Skyfire btw. So much for pre-orders or Amazon.)

[-Kanrabat-]

WTF is happening with Transformers right now?
There's a limit in how many times I can come in an hour you know.

I mean, seriously, it's fan service overkill! All of our wishes are coming true all at once!

[Cyberpath]

WTF is happening with Transformers right now?
There's a limit in how many times I can come in an hour you know.

I mean, seriously, it's fan service overkill! All of our wishes are coming true all at once!

True that!

Gotta pick and choose wisely!

[Randomhero]

Well there’s our Primus to go with Unicron

[Seibertron]

Well that's awesome. Guess I can cancel my flight this morning from ORD to SAN.

[ZeroWolf]

It is getting harder to keep secrets and reveals these days. Though I'm wondering if there's still more to come. Companies can take all the precautions they want but human nature will mean someone will leak it just to get the accolade.

[Aimless Misfire]

Are they seriously releasing Apeface but not Snapdragon? I hope it's not gonna be another Chop Shop where they never bothered to release the rest of the team.

Also Crosshairs just looks like Ironhide painted in Optimus Primes colors. Nice try Hasbro but NO!

I'd imagine that Snapdragon will come in the next part of the trilogy. This is only the first part after all. I'd be more concerned about them not bothering to make a Frenzy/Rumble like they almost didn't in Titans Return

(there HAS to be a Snapdragon on the way!...right? RIGHT?)

We'll see but when they released Chop Shop I was excited for the other 3 deluxe Insecticons & I'm STILL Waiting. I'm still waiting for any updated version of Ransack, my favorite of the 4.

Are they seriously releasing Apeface but not Snapdragon? I hope it's not gonna be another Chop Shop where they never bothered to release the rest of the team.

Also Crosshairs just looks like Ironhide painted in Optimus Primes colors. Nice try Hasbro but NO!

1. Be patient, willya? They're probably still hashing out how to handle Krunk.
2. Oh yes, because the red thighs, blue-and-black arms, and unique black headsculpt sooooo look like Optimus' color layout and Ironhide's head. Also, did you miss the initial renders of Crosshairs or something?

I never mentioned the color "LAYOUT". I only mentioned the colors RED & BLUE. It looks like Ironhide is painted in OP's colors. It reminds me of that lame Cloud Roadbuster/Energon Ironhide repaint.

I don't know what you're talking about "initial renders of Crosshairs", I'm just looking at the G1 toy of Crosshairs & this Ironhide repaint doesn't work for me. I want an actual G1 update that looks like the G1 toy. Same goes for Doubledealer. I don't want lazy half-assed repaints of molds that look nothing like the original G1 toy. If Hasbro can give us molds like Apeface & Springer that look exactly like their G1 toy then I'm not settling for that horrible 30th Doubledealer or this crappy Crosshairs.

[G1OPT1MU5PR1M3]

PLEASE let "frenzy" just be mistransformed. Ratbat looks sick and he's not a favorite of mine but I do not like the arms and legs of "frenzy" at all.
Astrotrain looks good. That launchpad base is a nice touch, but I'm wondering what other function does it have other than what's shown?

[ZeroWolf]

I think Astrotrain's tender also transforms into a gun. So it should have a use for all three modes.

[G1OPT1MU5PR1M3]

That HUGE launch pad? A gun?

[ZeroWolf]

That HUGE launch pad? A gun?

Yup

There's no picture but this news here says that it all combines
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/new-wfc-siege-products-reveals-voyager-apeface-leader-astrotrain-deluxe-spinister-and-crosshairs/43489/

[Randomhero]

PLEASE let "frenzy" just be mistransformed. Ratbat looks sick and he's not a favorite of mine but I do not like the arms and legs of "frenzy" at all.
Astrotrain looks good. That launchpad base is a nice touch, but I'm wondering what other function does it have other than what's shown?

It’s a $5 micromaster dude. You’re a not getting MP quality cassette. You’re getting the same articulation as the rest of the micromasters

[GeekyGamer Gal]

PLEASE let "frenzy" just be mistransformed. Ratbat looks sick and he's not a favorite of mine but I do not like the arms and legs of "frenzy" at all.
Astrotrain looks good. That launchpad base is a nice touch, but I'm wondering what other function does it have other than what's shown?

It’s a $5 micromaster dude. You’re a not getting MP quality cassette. You’re getting the same articulation as the rest of the micromasters

Honestly, looking at the way "Frenzy/Rumble" is in cassette mode, it looks like almost the exact same transformation as a G1 "Frenzy/Rumble". Something that explains the weird high knees that the figure has, as it is SO G1. The only difference being that instead of hiding the hands to hold the spring loaded head into the body, you use the racheted shoulder joints to hold the head down and the hands flip into the forearms. The questions are how strong are those pins in holding the hands into the forearms so you can actually flip them back out, how easily could those hands snap off around the pin trying to get them back out, and do those hands flip up or down into the forearms to affect the visibility when the figure is a cassette.

Otherwise, the only figures I'll definitely buy out of this group of is Astrotrain, as a gift for my steam engine loving father, and Lancer, to complete the fembiner. Rung would be a possibility if I could sneak him past my hubby, but that is a big if.

[AcademyofDrX]

I'll get the new Rumble, but I plan to keep using TR Rumble and Frenzy for any robot mode displays. I think the Siege versions are fine for the scale, but like @Randomhero said, there's only so much you can do at that size.

I wanted a Wingthing, but I'm guessing instead we'll see Frenzy and Buzzsaw.

[Evil Eye]

Astrotrain continues to look amazing, the launch pad tender idea is great.

Spinister is looking really nice, though honestly I'd rather they'd made one of his legs into a sort of engine detail for helicopter mode and just let him have asymmetrical legs. Still, I do want him somewhat.

Apeface looks cool but I don't really care that much about Apeface as a character. Nice that he exists though.

Rung, well, it's cool that people that want a Rung can get one. I don't care about him at all but I don't begrudge his existence in the line (though I'd prefer a Nickel).

Crosshairs actually looks really cool. I don't think I'll buy him but the colours look wonderful on that mold.

The two-parter Micromaster pair look sweet. No clue who they are but I like them.

Ratbat looks cool but that Fremble mold, yikes! I get there's limits to how good you can make something at that scale but honestly I think I'll track down the United figures. I don't mind them not actually fitting inside Soundwave's chest, and they look really nice toys, especially with those tank modes.

[blackeyedprime]

Doesnt look like the head hides on cassette guy, it just turns around like on the old 80's watches. I'd only be getting it for scaling with Siege soundwave otherwise KO MPs are perfect for display with any line (I got Hasbro MP soundwave so I've not needed the kos but will eventually get the buzzsaw just for the different shade of yellow). Im not sure if size is that much of a restriction if worlds smallest ravage looks better than siege ravage.

Having just watched Everything wrong with bumblebee, the ravage in that film still looks awesome but is as close to being a Zoid as can be (Please let there be a live action Zoid film, not done by any Baynus crew).

[joevill]

These all look really fun!

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Are they seriously releasing Apeface but not Snapdragon? I hope it's not gonna be another Chop Shop where they never bothered to release the rest of the team.

Also Crosshairs just looks like Ironhide painted in Optimus Primes colors. Nice try Hasbro but NO!

1. Be patient, willya? They're probably still hashing out how to handle Krunk.
2. Oh yes, because the red thighs, blue-and-black arms, and unique black headsculpt sooooo look like Optimus' color layout and Ironhide's head. Also, did you miss the initial renders of Crosshairs or something?

I never mentioned the color "LAYOUT". I only mentioned the colors RED & BLUE. It looks like Ironhide is painted in OP's colors. It reminds me of that lame Cloud Roadbuster/Energon Ironhide repaint.

I don't know what you're talking about "initial renders of Crosshairs", I'm just looking at the G1 toy of Crosshairs & this Ironhide repaint doesn't work for me. I want an actual G1 update that looks like the G1 toy. Same goes for Doubledealer. I don't want lazy half-assed repaints of molds that look nothing like the original G1 toy. If Hasbro can give us molds like Apeface & Springer that look exactly like their G1 toy then I'm not settling for that horrible 30th Doubledealer or this crappy Crosshairs.

1. True, you didn't mention layout. But given the prominent presence of BLACK and the absence of white/gray (save for the silver windows), it doesn't really look like "Optimus colors". It looks like Crosshairs colors. And whether you mentioned it or not, layout does play a role in the distinction. And again, new headsculpt.
2. What do I mean by "initial renders of Crosshairs"? I mean the initial renders of Crosshairs. As in, the renders of SIEGE Crosshairs that were posted here a few weeks ago. As in, we've known about this for a while already, why did it take you this long to voice your complaints?
3a. I disagree with you about this Crosshairs "look[ing] nothing like the original G1 toy":

He's got the sloped windshield chest (the one in the display is mistransformed) with a red frame, the boxy blue arms.. The vehicle mode has less of a resemblance, true, but the tires at least look suitably big even if they don't protrude and the body shape is quasi-similar. Finding a perfect match for Crosshairs would be kinda hard, because of the fact that the rear half of his altmode is just his lower legs elevated onto his thighs without a big gap in the center.
3b. Springer does not look exactly like his original G1 toy, certain things like the paldrons are changed for cartoon accuracy.

[o.supreme]

Well there’s our Primus to go with Unicron

In 2024, to celebrate the brands 40th anniversary, ONLY if the Unicron Haslab project is successful Of course Primus will cost $725 and Hasbro will want 12K backers...

As for the Micromaster combiner shown...I wonder if this will come in the standard packaging we've seen now, or new packaging. I mean all the micromasters have had a *combined form* up until this point, but we all know the original Micromaster combiners were a subset after the original Micromasters came out. I would think they would have saved those for the next line (which they may). This may be a similar case, such as when CW Legends Buzzsaw was released prior to TR, though it was obviously designed for the TR line.

These reveals are cool, and round out that late 4th/5th (depending on the size assortment) we were expecting. I'm still a bit concerned about Hasbro's stance to keep these lines to 12 months. maybe they are *testing* the waters to see if they can push the next line off until Spring, instead of revealing it in January.

I guess we'll know come end of year, if stores have ordered a glut of wave 4 stuff, or if the new wave 5 items are actually available at retail. Still, with all of this, I'll be more excited for any reveals of the 2020 line.

[Mindmaster]

Is it weird that it’s the little guys that have me the most excited? Like I’d’ve never expected them to do Rung, yet here he is. Super happy that they managed to pull off Frenzy, I was afraid that they’d only do Laserbeak and Ravage and leave it at that. I’m calling it right now; when they get around to doing Rumble, they pack him with either Buzzsaw or (thanks to the precedent started by Masterpiece) Wingthing. The Micromaster 10-pack is disappointing, but I’d still probably get to help round out the teams. Hope they do more Micromaster Combiners too!

[1984forever]

Wow, $175 for what turned out to be a $80 upcoming Target release. I’m glad I missed this auction.

[gothsaurus]

Like many of you, I'm hoping Frumble there is mistransformed. His hips swinging down and/or feet folding out to add some height would be a huge improvement.

Honestly, that's the one BIG thing Hasbro has had over 3rd Party for the past decade — proportions have been hands-down much, much better. I can't see them dropping the ball on this guy... not this hard.

[Randomhero]

Well there’s our Primus to go with Unicron

In 2024, to celebrate the brands 40th anniversary, ONLY if the Unicron Haslab project is successful Of course Primus will cost $725 and Hasbro will want 12K backers...

As for the Micromaster combiner shown...I wonder if this will come in the standard packaging we've seen now, or new packaging. I mean all the micromasters have had a *combined form* up until this point, but we all know the original Micromaster combiners were a subset after the original Micromasters came out. I would think they would have saved those for the next line (which they may). This may be a similar case, such as when CW Legends Buzzsaw was released prior to TR, though it was obviously designed for the TR line.

These reveals are cool, and round out that late 4th/5th (depending on the size assortment) we were expecting. I'm still a bit concerned about Hasbro's stance to keep these lines to 12 months. maybe they are *testing* the waters to see if they can push the next line off until Spring, instead of revealing it in January.

I guess we'll know come end of year, if stores have ordered a glut of wave 4 stuff, or if the new wave 5 items are actually available at retail. Still, with all of this, I'll be more excited for any reveals of the 2020 line.

Umm...okay? I was referring to rung because he’s Primus in the comics.

[Randomhero]

Like many of you, I'm hoping Frumble there is mistransformed. His hips swinging down and/or feet folding out to add some height would be a huge improvement.

Honestly, that's the one BIG thing Hasbro has had over 3rd Party for the past decade — proportions have been hands-down much, much better. I can't see them dropping the ball on this guy... not this hard.

It’s an inch and half tall micromaster

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Like many of you, I'm hoping Frumble there is mistransformed. His hips swinging down and/or feet folding out to add some height would be a huge improvement.

It's a strong possibility. I swear, sometimes it feels like Hasbro's reps would do better to ask small children to transform the toys for the displays...