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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:25 pm

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:Oh, cool. It's nice to see how the head works. Though, don't know if it's just how Takara has everything lit for promo shots, but Apeface's white plastic just looks iffy to me


For me too. Look more like candle wax than anything else. It's weird. Let's hope the in-hand pictures are better.

I still can't get over that garbage "jet" mode, but the PERFECT robot mode and that rocking ape mode more than compensate for that flaw.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Decepticon Stryker » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:42 pm

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:Oh, cool. It's nice to see how the head works. Though, don't know if it's just how Takara has everything lit for promo shots, but Apeface's white plastic just looks iffy to me


For me too. Look more like candle wax than anything else. It's weird. Let's hope the in-hand pictures are better.

I still can't get over that garbage "jet" mode, but the PERFECT robot mode and that rocking ape mode more than compensate for that flaw.

Takara's stock photos of Jetfire had this effect too. Looked a lot darker than the figure actually is.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:45 pm

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Decepticon Stryker wrote:Takara's stock photos of Jetfire had this effect too. Looked a lot darker than the figure actually is.

I've been noticing this a lot since brand unification, Takara's stock photos of general releases seem to be darker and not always good representations of the final product. Generally Takara does better stock photos in terms of showing off the figure, but Hasbro seems to do better at balancing the lighting to make it look closer to the final product
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Decepticon Stryker » Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:10 pm

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:
Decepticon Stryker wrote:Takara's stock photos of Jetfire had this effect too. Looked a lot darker than the figure actually is.

I've been noticing this a lot since brand unification, Takara's stock photos of general releases seem to be darker and not always good representations of the final product. Generally Takara does better stock photos in terms of showing off the figure, but Hasbro seems to do better at balancing the lighting to make it look closer to the final product
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:33 pm

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:Oh, cool. It's nice to see how the head works. Though, don't know if it's just how Takara has everything lit for promo shots, but Apeface's white plastic just looks iffy to me
I think that white has that opalescence, or sparkle fleck in it.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby bacem » Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:39 pm

I want apeface even more now. That monkey face without mouth can be used as an original character face, in case anyone wants to do a custom OC with TR molds as a base.
A bit annoyed with the robot arm clearly hanging on the monkey leg, but i guess it is G1 accurate, so that is where everyone wants it to be. Eh, oh well.
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New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosswise and More

Postby william-james88 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:16 pm

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Takara has new images for the upcoming Transformers War for Cybertron Siege voyager Apeface, deluxe Crosshairs and Micromasters combiner Direct Hit and Power Punch. These give us our best look at the finished deco and what that might look like in unfavourable lighting conditions, as you will see. While Apeface's white may look too off white, it might just be that it is pearlescent. We also see what the battle damage will look like on his legs, along with a good look at this jet mode. As with all triple changers, one mode will always get the short straw and as with his G1 toy and any Braodside toy, it is the jet mode. We do get to see exactly what the Titan Master turns into. Crosswise is a redeco of Ironhide with a new head and sports some pretty cool tampographs that give callbacks to the original toy.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SgtNateV » Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:53 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Primal » Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:56 pm

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Crosswise? :???:

I think Apeface continues to look good, save for the white looking weird in that lighting and his ape neck being mistransformed by the looks of it. I'm still a bit hesitant to use Takara's stock photos as proof of final color schemes though, after the unpainted guns they showed with Magnus and Brunt.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Quantum Surge » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:00 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Microbot » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:13 pm

Apeface and Crosshairs look great! Want! the duo minicon...no thanks....look ugly...the weapon mode is just put them on a shoulder in car-mode...no, thanks! Harbro can make it better IMO
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby DeathReviews » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:40 pm

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Sigh... I wanted to like Apeface. I had the G1 version back in the day. But after 30 years, this was seriously the best they could do? Lawful heart, that off-white plastic looks like badly melted cheese.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:52 pm

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DeathReviews wrote:Sigh... I wanted to like Apeface. I had the G1 version back in the day. But after 30 years, this was seriously the best they could do? Lawful heart, that off-white plastic looks like badly melted cheese.


We will have to wait for the in-hand pictures to she his real colors. Maybe that candle-wax white will not be so bad.

Also, after playing around with Siege Ratchet, I really want Crosswise and Ironhide. That mold is awesome in it's simplicity.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:26 pm

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Will, you accidentally called Crosshairs "Crosswise" at one point. I'm pretty sure he is not a monster-hunting Bugatti Veyron

That is DEFINITELY a pearlescent white on Apeface. Only pearlescent plastic has that sheen. It should look just fine in person. I mean, it looks great on this guy:
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As for the chunky jet mode... Since they were going for resemblance to the G1 design, there was no helping it on account of the twonk who designed the original giving him oblong beast limbs. A larger wingspan would probably help the looks, but price point strictures are a thing.,, All the same, Apeface is still a "Shut up and take my money" toy for me.

Speaking of "Shut up and take my money"...
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Recently acquired Springer, and I find him a joy to look at and play with.

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As far as I'm concerned regarding Springer: SIEGE Rules, Thrilling 30 drools!

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Well, okay, the transforming rotor sword is nice. But occasionally lending that to SIEGE Springer is the ONLY thing keeping me from putting the T30 version (which I only bought as filler) up for trade.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:55 pm

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Powertrain, Highjump, and Red Heat are lacking Autobrands. What the hell time to commit or get off the cyberpotty now come on troops.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:57 pm

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Shockwave stands in solidarity as the only Siege figure to not have red on him. I’m telling you Siege is like 70% red.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Stormshot_Prime » Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:04 pm

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Anyone else notice that bizarre double sided Headmaster? Or am I just seeing things?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:07 pm

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Stargrave wrote:Shockwave stands in solidarity as the only Siege figure to not have red on him. I’m telling you Siege is like 70% red.
What about Holo Mirage?

Stormshot_Prime wrote:Anyone else notice that bizarre double sided Headmaster? Or am I just seeing things?
You're not. But it's actually to be expected with Spasma!
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Part of the Horrorcons' design schtick was that their Headmaster partners formed both the robot head and the beast head. However, the need to be interchangeable with other Titan Masters means that SIEGE Spasma can't fit the full gorilla muzzle on his back, so he only has the optic band and plugs in to complete the gorilla head (much like Revolver does for TR Six Shot's wolf head, only even more important). This also keeps the gorilla head from being undersized.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:56 pm

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Dude good call! I don’t have holo Mirage yet.

He’s the only redless force that can withstand Shockwave’s redless onslaught.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby emlit » Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:16 am

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:As for the chunky jet mode... Since they were going for resemblance to the G1 design, there was no helping it on account of the twonk who designed the original giving him oblong beast limbs. A larger wingspan would probably help the looks, but price point strictures are a thing.,,

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As far as I'm concerned regarding Springer: SIEGE Rules, Thrilling 30 drools!


IDK, those alt modes for Thrilling 30 Springer are really great. And I even have a G1 Springer, so Siege gets nostalgia points.

My take on Apeface is why those blocky shoulders? All it needed was some angled intakes like the original. It’s sad for me, too, as Apeface’s spaceship design was one of my G1 favorites.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:30 am

Motto: "Earthrise restock or riot"
I think T30 Springer's helicopter mode is a mess, and my copy is rather uncooperative when it comes to things lining up right in altmode.

Why those blocky gorilla shoulders on Apeface? To make room for the joints. And honestly, given where the original's intakes were and the way SIEGE Apeface's gorilla arms transform, your question should be "Why those blocky gorilla forearms?"
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby frogbat » Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:37 am

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still to receive my springer. Looking forward to him cos I definitely prefer the g1 sequel look over the thrilling 30s (I appreciate sandstorm more). Of this next batch, think I've ordered the lot except for the Micromaster which wasn't available but am looking forward to getting him too.

Apeface looks ok - not exceptional, but a good attempt. the plastic will probably look better in hand.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:09 am

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I much prefer the G1 reimagined look of T30 Springer, far more dynamic and fits the original theme of classics but of course different design teams have different visions and at least people have official options depending on their own tastes.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:33 am

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Siege Springer is a much more complex figure than he looks in photos. The conversion from car to helicopter isn't nearly as straightforward as it appears.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby emlit » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:48 am

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Why those blocky gorilla shoulders on Apeface? To make room for the joints. And honestly, given where the original's intakes were and the way SIEGE Apeface's gorilla arms transform, your question should be "Why those blocky gorilla forearms?"


No, my question is still “Why those blocky shoulders?” The joints could still be easily accommodated after adding a slope reminiscent of the G1 model. That would help the winged toaster aesthetic immensely, IMO.
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