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Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Thu Dec 19, 2019 1:43 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Regarding the gorilla mode neck not tabbing together, is it an issue of not enough room, or is it resistance at the back of the next piece? Because if it's the latter, it's likely because the neck actually tabs in in two places, the obvious tabs at the front, and also at the base of the hinge. It definitely requires force to get in the first few times


It's definitely the latter. I can see where it looks like the hinge wants to fold up and snap together with the tabs opposite it, but it just won't do it, and applying any extra force just makes everything else pop out of place.

Hm. That's strange. Is there any mold flash on either side of the tab?


Not that I can see, but coincidentally, I did have some mold flash on the right foot. I was wondering why I couldn't get Apeface to stand up straight in bot mode, until I found it and snipped it off with a pair of scissors. Now, he stands perfectly flat-footed. :)

Ah, alright :D I was mostly asking cause I had some on both posts for the nosecone which caused issues with the jet mode so I was wondering if that was just a common issue with Apeface's pieces having excess plastic
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:13 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Regarding the gorilla mode neck not tabbing together, is it an issue of not enough room, or is it resistance at the back of the next piece? Because if it's the latter, it's likely because the neck actually tabs in in two places, the obvious tabs at the front, and also at the base of the hinge. It definitely requires force to get in the first few times


It's definitely the latter. I can see where it looks like the hinge wants to fold up and snap together with the tabs opposite it, but it just won't do it, and applying any extra force just makes everything else pop out of place.

I've found out that you need to pop the gorilla neck into place first, then realign the back pieces. It get's easier after the first time. The first several times I transformed him, I didn't even know it was supposed to lock into place. Then I found out, and it's been working since.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:17 am

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All right, folks! I followed your tips and was able to get a bit more satisfaction out of transforming Spinister and Apeface a second time around. First, with Spinister, it did help to turn the "back" leg, the one with the cockpit that goes under the fuselage instead of at the front of the helicopter, at the hip instead of the thigh. I got everything to tab together nice and tight with no unintentional gaps. The bottom cockpit and the upper fuselage were able to fit together flush, though there is still a small gap on either side toward the back end, but that seems to be there by design instead of any clearance or tolerance issue.

With Apeface, I was finally able to get the neck assembly to snap around the pinned joint by doing that before putting the rest of the torso together. Then I lined up everything else. Finally, I got the front part of the neck assembly to tab into the robot mode feet on either side by lining it up and pushing down and forward to get them to slot in correctly. It felt very satisfying to get that right. I can see why Hasbro used the off-white plastic they did now. It's very durable and sturdy, but still has enough give to help push the tabs into their proper slots without causing stress in the plastic. It feels more "squishy" that "clicky" at times, but everything does hold together quite well.

Finally, I opened Astrotrain tonight. He is awesome! I was able to get him into both space shuttle and train engine mode fairly easily, without even looking at the instructions. (I do look at the stock photos on the back of the box for reference, of course.) I didn't realize before opening him up that he came with not one, not two, but FOUR guns! (Plus, some missile launcher thingy like from an attack helicopter?) The launchpad works well enough, the I can't get it to lay perfectly flat. One of the hinges just doesn't sit flush when folded out. That's a bit of a shame. Using it as a tender for train mode is quite a bit better. Robot mode is spot on in sculpt and in coloring when compared to the G1 cartoon character model. THIS is the modern Astrotrain I've wanted since 2006. The Legends version (Titans Return mold) is still great (and about a head taller), but Siege Astrotrain really does nail the G1 alt modes a bit better, particularly the train mode. I would love to see some more War for Cybertron Trilogy triple changers down the line, though maybe just at the Voyager Class. Not all of them need $20 worth of extra accessories. Springer did just fine without being a Leader Class release. Here's hoping we see Sandstorm soon, and perhaps Blitzwing.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jeddostotle7 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:25 am

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So for it to work:

1) Hips facing forward (robot mode position)
2) Thighs facing out

this is how I orient everything to get the best result:

B583438B-D398-487F-8C15-3E141916355E.jpeg

Just did this, and it worked out perfectly and as described, he fits together firmly now. Thanks!
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:37 am

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Jeddostotle7 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So for it to work:

1) Hips facing forward (robot mode position)
2) Thighs facing out

this is how I orient everything to get the best result:

B583438B-D398-487F-8C15-3E141916355E.jpeg

Just did this, and it worked out perfectly and as described, he fits together firmly now. Thanks!

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jeddostotle7 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:10 am

Weapon: Ion-Charge Disperser Rifle
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Jeddostotle7 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So for it to work:

1) Hips facing forward (robot mode position)
2) Thighs facing out

this is how I orient everything to get the best result:

B583438B-D398-487F-8C15-3E141916355E.jpeg

Just did this, and it worked out perfectly and as described, he fits together firmly now. Thanks!

Glad to have helped :PEACE:

Oooh wait, upon playing with it further, it still seems iffy. It pegs in better than it did, but it still won't consistently stay in. Wonder if it's just slightly poor QC on my end.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AcademyofDrX » Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:57 am

Jeddostotle7 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Jeddostotle7 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So for it to work:

1) Hips facing forward (robot mode position)
2) Thighs facing out

this is how I orient everything to get the best result:

B583438B-D398-487F-8C15-3E141916355E.jpeg

Just did this, and it worked out perfectly and as described, he fits together firmly now. Thanks!

Glad to have helped :PEACE:

Oooh wait, upon playing with it further, it still seems iffy. It pegs in better than it did, but it still won't consistently stay in. Wonder if it's just slightly poor QC on my end.

I don't think it's a QC issue; my experience is very similar. While I agree that the pictured connection fits and looks better, I find it rather challenging to rotate the parts to match that image, so I don't think it was ever the intended design. Based on the overall structure, it doesn't look like all of the plastic is supposed to sit flush when it's tabbed together, I think it's just supposed to hold its shape when fully transformed.

For context, one of my first modern Transformers was Titans Return Wheelie, so I have pretty low standards. As a general rule, I value ease of transformation and stability over perfect tabbing. For figures like this one and Mirage where there are clear plastic parts, that mindset should extend the life of the toy even if it means there are occasional unsightly gaps in the alt-made.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:34 pm

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AcademyofDrX wrote:
Jeddostotle7 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Jeddostotle7 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So for it to work:

1) Hips facing forward (robot mode position)
2) Thighs facing out

this is how I orient everything to get the best result:

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Just did this, and it worked out perfectly and as described, he fits together firmly now. Thanks!

Glad to have helped :PEACE:

Oooh wait, upon playing with it further, it still seems iffy. It pegs in better than it did, but it still won't consistently stay in. Wonder if it's just slightly poor QC on my end.

I don't think it's a QC issue; my experience is very similar. While I agree that the pictured connection fits and looks better, I find it rather challenging to rotate the parts to match that image, so I don't think it was ever the intended design. Based on the overall structure, it doesn't look like all of the plastic is supposed to sit flush when it's tabbed together, I think it's just supposed to hold its shape when fully transformed.

For context, one of my first modern Transformers was Titans Return Wheelie, so I have pretty low standards. As a general rule, I value ease of transformation and stability over perfect tabbing. For figures like this one and Mirage where there are clear plastic parts, that mindset should extend the life of the toy even if it means there are occasional unsightly gaps in the alt-made.

I found rotating the thighs at the pelvis easier going one way than the other, but if it makes you nervous, I say err on the side of not breaking a figure, but I will say that the angled thigh joint definitely seems the allow for the leg to collapse more comfortably than the other side, but at this point I just don't know, it works for me, and I hope it can work for you

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Rogue-Primal » Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:25 pm

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Want to ask what the common opinon on the Autobot Rescue Team (Stakeout and Red Heat is)

What are the most common positives and negatives aside from that the gun mode isn't very convincing?

I'm considering to buy them next weekend
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:39 pm

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Rogue-Primal wrote:Want to ask what the common opinon on the Autobot Rescue Team (Stakeout and Red Heat is)

What are the most common positives and negatives aside from that the gun mode isn't very convincing?

I'm considering to buy them next weekend


The main thing you need to look out is loose joints. Stakeout is a bit fiddly to get in car mode, but so were Roadhandler and Swindler.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:28 pm

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Rogue-Primal wrote:Want to ask what the common opinon on the Autobot Rescue Team (Stakeout and Red Heat is)

What are the most common positives and negatives aside from that the gun mode isn't very convincing?

I'm considering to buy them next weekend


Honestly, its a better gun mode than some, although if you flipbthem around you can use Red Heat's Hose cannon to make a better lookibg gun. The only ussue is the hip ball joints, there is just a lot of extra stuff around Stakeout's feet and Red Heat's ankle extenders that the legs have to be perfectly aligned to get them un without popping the balls. But if you are even renotely curious, get them. They are nice little figures.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:27 pm

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Had a real shock today. Saw Omega Supreme at Target. Probably an online purchase someone returned. I was kind of hoping it would be at a lower price, but unfortunately not. Looks like I'll have to wait until tax return season to get it.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby STngAR » Tue Dec 24, 2019 11:56 am

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A buddy of mine went to some kind of liquidation sale last week and picked up 16 Omega Supreme's for 20 a piece and 11 Power of the Primes Rodimus Unicronus'. Didn't say how much for the Rodimus'

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Battle Masters Rung and Singe found at Target in US

Postby william-james88 » Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:21 pm

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The tail enders are usually the toughest to find so it's good to know that they these have been found at a big box store. Transformers War For Cybertron Siege Battle Masters Singe and Rung have been found at Target for $4.79. The specific sighting is from jerichoholic99 who found them in Lexington, Kentucky and posted them on the TFW2005 message boards.
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Re: Battle Masters Rung and Singe found at Target in US

Postby AcademyofDrX » Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:09 pm

william-james88 wrote:Hopefully that means your local Target will get it too. Singe is a rather important Battle Master since you need him to complete the G1 Targetmaster Spinister.

My area Target had them too. Rung is a rather important Battle Master since he is a literal god.
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Re: Battle Masters Rung and Singe found at Target in US

Postby Hellscream9999 » Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:08 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Hopefully that means your local Target will get it too. Singe is a rather important Battle Master since you need him to complete the G1 Targetmaster Spinister.

My area Target had them too. Rung is a rather important Battle Master since he is a literal god.

My target go them in today, a whole case - which was promptly cleaned out by one person sub-human >:oP scumbag
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:10 pm

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o.supreme wrote:Had a real shock today. Saw Omega Supreme at Target. Probably an online purchase someone returned. I was kind of hoping it would be at a lower price, but unfortunately not. Looks like I'll have to wait until tax return season to get it.



A buddy of mine went to some kind of liquidation sale last week and picked up 16 Omega Supreme's for 20 a piece and 11 Power of the Primes Rodimus Unicronus'. Didn't say how much for the Rodimus'

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Was that the Hasbro warehouse sale?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Black Bumblebee » Tue Dec 24, 2019 4:56 pm

Found both at the Target in Jackson, Tennessee purely by luck--my wife sent me back out again to pick up an air mattress for holiday travel. Sporting goods was right next to toys... boom!

They still had a Singe, but I got the last Rung :-D
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby STngAR » Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:03 pm

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o.supreme wrote:Had a real shock today. Saw Omega Supreme at Target. Probably an online purchase someone returned. I was kind of hoping it would be at a lower price, but unfortunately not. Looks like I'll have to wait until tax return season to get it.



A buddy of mine went to some kind of liquidation sale last week and picked up 16 Omega Supreme's for 20 a piece and 11 Power of the Primes Rodimus Unicronus'. Didn't say how much for the Rodimus'

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Was that the Hasbro warehouse sale?


Yup, I believe that's the one.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Wed Dec 25, 2019 6:10 pm

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Nexus Knight wrote:Alrighty, so I've been searching for answer everywhere I could think of but here for this question- Where is the Decepticon Phantomstrike Squadron? It's supposed to be an Amazon exclusive, but I can't find it on the store anymore. Which sucks for me, coz Skywarp is the last Siege toy really want to own.


Sorry to say it probably won't be back in-stock. You might get lucky and find it for a reasonable price once the Siege hoopla dies off.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby LinaNui » Wed Dec 25, 2019 8:09 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Nexus Knight wrote:Alrighty, so I've been searching for answer everywhere I could think of but here for this question- Where is the Decepticon Phantomstrike Squadron? It's supposed to be an Amazon exclusive, but I can't find it on the store anymore. Which sucks for me, coz Skywarp is the last Siege toy really want to own.


Sorry to say it probably won't be back in-stock. You might get lucky and find it for a reasonable price once the Siege hoopla dies off.


It sold out the day before Black Friday and then a week after it flickered back in stock a few times saying that it would be shipped around the 17th of January and late February. I was lucky to order one on the 12th of December and it says it will be delivered on the 9th of January (it started as the 17th and has been dropping)? I really hope that they follow through with it. Just keep a close eye on it, here is the link to it https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NZ86GJP?ref=ppx_pt2_dt_b_prod_image. I would say that it may show back up around February.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Dec 25, 2019 10:45 pm

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Nexus Knight wrote:Alrighty, so I've been searching for answer everywhere I could think of but here for this question- Where is the Decepticon Phantomstrike Squadron? It's supposed to be an Amazon exclusive, but I can't find it on the store anymore. Which sucks for me, coz Skywarp is the last Siege toy really want to own.


If you fear missing out, here is what you have to do. Here is the set on amazon.ca https://www.amazon.ca/Transformers-Gene ... 355&sr=8-1.

Google a mail forwarding service that you can ship it to in canada and who will then ship to you. Shipping would be free within canada, you'd just pay shipping to you and a cut for the service.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Dec 25, 2019 10:56 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Nexus Knight wrote:Alrighty, so I've been searching for answer everywhere I could think of but here for this question- Where is the Decepticon Phantomstrike Squadron? It's supposed to be an Amazon exclusive, but I can't find it on the store anymore. Which sucks for me, coz Skywarp is the last Siege toy really want to own.


If you fear missing out, here is what you have to do. Here is the set on amazon.ca https://www.amazon.ca/Transformers-Gene ... 355&sr=8-1.

Google a mail forwarding service that you can ship it to in canada and who will then ship to you. Shipping would be free within canada, you'd just pay shipping to you and a cut for the service.
They won't ship to the US at all?
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