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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby bacem » Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:39 pm

anybody is planning to completely take apart siege weaponizer cog, sixgun, and brunt, and then go crazy with their parts and creates new, bigger robot? i know it makes absolute zero sense canon-wise, but it just sounds really fun to do.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:23 am

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bacem wrote:anybody is planning to completely take apart siege weaponizer cog, sixgun, and brunt, and then go crazy with their parts and creates new, bigger robot? i know it makes absolute zero sense canon-wise, but it just sounds really fun to do.

Well I wasn't, but now that you've pointed it out...
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Knight » Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:46 am

counterprime321 wrote:
Grimlocktimus wrote:Hey maybe I missed hearing about it... but do these still come with collector cards? I really like those, and would loved they're still a thing.

They don't come with cards but there are sort of tech specs for the weapons in the instructions


Please tell me the instructions aren't the same ridiculous black background barely visible red and purple with bouts of white that were barely legible from the previous couple of lines.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:01 am

Rodimus Knight wrote:
counterprime321 wrote:
Grimlocktimus wrote:Hey maybe I missed hearing about it... but do these still come with collector cards? I really like those, and would loved they're still a thing.

They don't come with cards but there are sort of tech specs for the weapons in the instructions


Please tell me the instructions aren't the same ridiculous black background barely visible red and purple with bouts of white that were barely legible from the previous couple of lines.


Sorry to break it to you, but we've already seen that they are the same.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:51 am

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Boy, they really wanted this line out in time for Black Friday O.O And nice to see that the boxes are actually fairly space-efficient!

Nice comparisons Seibertron, for the most part. I have some questions:
1. How long are WFC Cog's Gasket and Grommet components?
2. Where's Universe Deluxe Hound?

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Wolfman Jake wrote:Seiberton, since you've done those Battle Master comparison pics, do you have a preference between the Takara Legends take on the G1 Targetmasters or the newer Siege renditions of the same characters?


I prefer the Takara Legends take on the G1 Targetmasters.

*shrug* No matter which you go with, they get Firebolt's gun mode wrong (as seen here). :BANG_HEAD: So in a warped way the Hasbro version is better - it's still a mistake but at least it doesn't cost you as much.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Even when you add all those guns and stuff, Sideswipe still looks boring as heck.

Would adding the sticker detail present on the G1 toy help, or do you find that one boring too?
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It's funny how many people seem to believe that the less conservative party is going to make the country into (more of) a fascist surveillance state. Especially since the news services claiming this simultaneously claim the left will turn the country into an anarchistic hippy land with no social and moral controls.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:06 am

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crash8burnt wrote:Who to pick for voyager?? That's an easy choice : Ironhide! There's so many bots to fill in the deluxe and Ironhide got to be voyager class. Only Hasbro finds it hard to decided.


Thats a terrible choice since it doesnt match the height chart at all. Ironhide cant be as big as Optimus or Megatron. Looks like Hasbro is being pretty smart with this line and making Ironhide a deluxe (so the right size and at a cheaper price point) but bigger than other deluxes like Hound.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:11 am

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You have to admit, they've done a good job with things. It will be interesting to see how things go from here. I'm fact just think, this time next year we'll be seeing the next line hit shelves...
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:21 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:You have to admit, they've done a good job with things. It will be interesting to see how things go from here. I'm fact just think, this time next year we'll be seeing the next line hit shelves...

Yeah, its pretty cool. I dont mind this way of doing things at all. We learn of all the figures we have to look forward to next year and then one year later same thing. And its always for a different subline.
The only thing I wished was that it we also had the same type and build of figures for the animated show currently on air. But I guess it now continues the Armada tradition that toys based on shows are more for kids and thus we should inhibit articulation/complexity/proportions for an action gimmick and ignore the technological advancements of the past.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby counterprime321 » Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:22 pm

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bacem wrote:anybody is planning to completely take apart siege weaponizer cog, sixgun, and brunt, and then go crazy with their parts and creates new, bigger robot? i know it makes absolute zero sense canon-wise, but it just sounds really fun to do.

I was planning to go crazy from the start.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:28 pm

Motto: "Why are Beast Hunters Ultimate/Dragon Attack Optimus' sword and shield so hard to find?"
I plan to make a ramp extension for Fort Max that has the elevator. I'd like to get an early start, but to do that I need to know how long and how wide Cog's Gasket and Grommet components are so that I can make he elevator platform the right size.

ScottyP wrote:
YoungPrime wrote:Why didn't he do the Bot size comparison's of the Classics and Sieges the way he did the OP's in truck mode? I still can't tell which are taller. It feels like these reviewers are hiding it with these crouched down poses.
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Hmm. This makes it look like there's more of a height difference than I'd first thought, at least 5mm. Seibertron's photos make it look like 1.5mm tops. I wish Seibertron had done a comparison with Combiner Wars Optimus... can anyone please oblige me there?
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It's funny how many people seem to believe that the less conservative party is going to make the country into (more of) a fascist surveillance state. Especially since the news services claiming this simultaneously claim the left will turn the country into an anarchistic hippy land with no social and moral controls.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:02 pm

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Got a bigger/higher resolution version of this chart somewhere, Willy J?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:04 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Image


Got a bigger/higher resolution version of this chart somewhere, Willy J?
Most larger charts would still be shrunk by the width parameters of this board.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:07 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Image


Got a bigger/higher resolution version of this chart somewhere, Willy J?
Most larger charts would still be shrunk by the width parameters of this board.


Then I suppose a link to a non-scaled down version would suffice.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Seibertron » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:20 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:I've got a question for Seibertron, or anyone who has both Siege Sideswipe and Masterpiece Sideswipe. I've noticed in reviews that Siege Sideswipe uses a rectangular peg and hole to mount his shoulder cannon in robot mode. Are the peg and hole compatible with the same ones on the Masterpiece figure? In other words, can you actually use the Masterpiece cannon on Siege Sideswipe's shoulder, if you were so inclined?


No they are not compatible. Masterpiece Sideswipe has a square peg and Siege Sideswipe has a "flat" peg that is thin.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Seibertron » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:26 pm

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Cog with Cog (aka Cogged Cog or Ultra Cog or Megacog or Cogatron)

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wireless_Phantom » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:28 pm

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Seibertron wrote:Cog with Cog (aka Cogged Cog or Ultra Cog or Megacog or Cogatron)

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Seibertron » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:28 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Image


Got a bigger/higher resolution version of this chart somewhere, Willy J?
Most larger charts would still be shrunk by the width parameters of this board.


Then I suppose a link to a non-scaled down version would suffice.


But then you can just click on the link to view the larger image. If you have a larger one, please feel free to post it! There are no width restrictions on the images I don't think. If there are, I can increase them!
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Seibertron » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:32 pm

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I'm not a fan of the G1 size charts. Optimus Prime is always bigger in those charts than I think he is in the actual cartoon. Most of the Autobot cars only come up to his waist, which is a little silly.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:56 pm

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Seibertron wrote: Megacog or Cogatron)
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby RustedCross » Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:08 pm

Seibertron wrote:Cog with Cog (aka Cogged Cog or Ultra Cog or Megacog or Cogatron)

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This could become a new transformer's saying...

Go Cog yourself :D
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:12 pm

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Seibertron wrote:Cog with Cog (aka Cogged Cog or Ultra Cog or Megacog or Cogatron)

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Yup, I need to get multiples of Cog now...
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:20 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:
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Got a bigger/higher resolution version of this chart somewhere, Willy J?

I do not, sorry
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby crash8burnt » Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:21 pm

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crash8burnt wrote:Who to pick for voyager?? That's an easy choice : Ironhide! There's so many bots to fill in the deluxe and Ironhide got to be voyager class. Only Hasbro finds it hard to decided.


Thats a terrible choice since it doesnt match the height chart at all. Ironhide cant be as big as Optimus or Megatron. Looks like Hasbro is being pretty smart with this line and making Ironhide a deluxe (so the right size and at a cheaper price point) but bigger than other deluxes like Hound.


That's a terrible assumption as someone has already pointed out earlier that through the image calculation that Ironhide does appear to be the same height as Sideswipe.

Hasbro has been known to be G1 toy accurate and of poor QC, while Takara is Cartoon accurate and of better QC. But with this line, Hasbro seems to have redeemed itself. The actual figures of Sideswipe, Hound, Cog, OP and Meg all look superb. :APPLAUSE: My collections only consists of Takara's, while Hasbro's are thrown to my son or into bin. With no diff in Takara version, thought that's the end. But luckily Hasbro has other ideas. Really looking forward to this and future lines. Good job :HASBRO: ;)^
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Seibertron » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:37 pm

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crash8burnt wrote:Hasbro has been known to be G1 toy accurate and of poor QC, while Takara is Cartoon accurate and of better QC


The QC issue between Hasbro and Takara has been debunked and refuted countless times. It's in the imagination of fans and is not fact.
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