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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Primal » Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:11 am

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SpikeyTigertron wrote:https://www.entertainmentearth.com/product/transformers-generations-siege-deluxe-wave-4-case/hse3432d

https://www.entertainmentearth.com/prod ... e/hse3432c

Interesting wave 4 has a "mystery" figure

wave 3 listing shows brunt and reflector...


While I admit the mystery character is intriguing, it's good to see Reflector has 6 per case (unless I'm reading this wrong which is a distinct possibility :lol: )

3 per case, not 6. Still promising for those who want a camera though.

Also this means that Barricade is in Wave 4 and I've been had in regards to talking about this earlier.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SpikeyTigertron » Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:30 am

It just really bugs me that we haven't seen full wave 3 and 4 representation at Toy Faire... is there something else Hasbro could be holding back on? Did Takara steal all the proto types for Winterfest? The preorders and Pulse seem to be scattershot too.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SpikeyTigertron » Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:32 am

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ycc/42170/

I guess that's why I couldn't think of the alt mode for (just one) Reflector... I guess it's a "tank thingy"?


Actually.... when the ports on the side of his altmode... you could probably strap one to either side of Shockwaves hoversled.....
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:38 am

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SpikeyTigertron wrote:It just really bugs me that we haven't seen full wave 3 and 4 representation at Toy Faire... is there something else Hasbro could be holding back on? Did Takara steal all the proto types for Winterfest? The preorders and Pulse seem to be scattershot too.


We've seen more than you realise:

Battle Masters
- WFC-S30 Caliburst
- WFC-S31 Smashdown

Deluxe
- Refraktor ("Reflector")
- WFC-S35 Red Alert
- Brunt

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- WFC-S38 Autobot Springer
- WFC-S39 Thundercracker

Leader Class
- WFC-40 Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime

WFC-S28 Jetfire and WFC-S29 Omega Supreme should be out around the same time. The only ones we haven't seen are the Micromasters, and possibly one Deluxe to fill WFC-S32 through WFC-S37. WFC-S26, WFC-S27 and WFC-S41 are unknown, but given their position (Each Wave has the ID's sorted by increasing Size Class up to Leader), they may be set aside for the exclusives.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:10 am

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I've got another little observation about SIEGE Red Alert. His chest insignia is properly centered! Why is that notable? Because Sideswipe's is NOT. It looks like whoever tampographed all of the Autobot sigils on Sideswipe was fooled by the hardpoint on the just left of the center of the chest/hood. The Autobot sigil is offset to the right a bit if you look at the whole chest/hood and mentally ignore the unsymmetrically placed hard point. Apparently, whoever did the tampos for Red Alert realized the mistake with Sideswipe and didn't repeat it. Every sample of Sideswipe I've seen has a misaligned tampographs on the chest. I wonder if the error was caught in time to correct the Takara Tomy run of products?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Primal » Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:24 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
SpikeyTigertron wrote:It just really bugs me that we haven't seen full wave 3 and 4 representation at Toy Faire... is there something else Hasbro could be holding back on? Did Takara steal all the proto types for Winterfest? The preorders and Pulse seem to be scattershot too.


We've seen more than you realise:

Battle Masters
- WFC-S30 Caliburst
- WFC-S31 Smashdown

Deluxe
- Refraktor ("Reflector")
- WFC-S35 Red Alert
- Brunt

Voyager
- WFC-S38 Autobot Springer
- WFC-S39 Thundercracker

Leader Class
- WFC-40 Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime

WFC-S28 Jetfire and WFC-S29 Omega Supreme should be out around the same time. The only ones we haven't seen are the Micromasters, and possibly one Deluxe to fill WFC-S32 through WFC-S37. WFC-S26, WFC-S27 and WFC-S41 are unknown, but given their position (Each Wave has the ID's sorted by increasing Size Class up to Leader), they may be set aside for the exclusives.

Well given we just saw the Wave 3 Deluxe case distribution in a post earlier on this page, there aren't any more Wave 3 Deluxes, so we're probably getting 3 Micromaster packs like in Wave 1 to fill S32-34, while S35 and S37 will be Brunt and Refraktor. S26 is probably going to be Astrotrain by the sounds of it, so S27 is an exclusive, and S41 only makes sense to be Barricade.

From there, S44-47 won't have codes according to the site, so those are probably either more assorted Masters, since we know they don't come with codes, or the 4 35th anniversary figures and they don't have codes (which they might not given two of them are just cell-shaded versions of existing figures), and then S48-51 are the rest of the line. From that, it seems like S27 and S48-51 are all exclusives, two of which we know (Skywarp and the Firestormer pack), and others we have hints at (Lancer and Cybertron Defense Hot Shot at least).

I meant to post more Fun with Numbers (Funbers?) like this today anyway, so thanks for the reminder.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SpikeyTigertron » Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:55 am

I feel like all the threads are fragmenting all over the place with the NYTF coverage... but has anyone actually *seen* pre-orders for Brunt/Reflector/Refractor? I can't seem to spot any if there are.... not on Amazon, BBTS, EntertainmentEarth, TFSource… etc... and it's driving me nuts.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:29 am

SpikeyTigertron wrote:I feel like all the threads are fragmenting all over the place with the NYTF coverage... but has anyone actually *seen* pre-orders for Brunt/Reflector/Refractor? I can't seem to spot any if there are.... not on Amazon, BBTS, EntertainmentEarth, TFSource… etc... and it's driving me nuts.


No, there are some serious gaps in the pre-orders for both Siege and Studio Series. For Siege, no sign of pre-orders for Brunt, Refractor and presuming Barricade in wave 4, and no sign of the micromasters at all past wave 2. For Studio Series, the first 3 constructions are missing from pre-orders, while later numbers in the series do have pre-orders.

I'm also seriously wondering whether the rumored Leader Astrotrain was some bad info. It is weird that we heard absolutely nothing about him. The rumor was from something found on Walmarts site, right? Isn't Walmart also going to have the G1 re-release for Astrotrain? Could that have been the mix-up?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ThunderThruster » Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:40 am

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Cyberpath » Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:44 am

Siege Brunt is up for pre-order from Takara/Japan, if it helps.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:25 am

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby no-one » Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:28 am

Wolfman Jake wrote:I've got another little observation about SIEGE Red Alert. His chest insignia is properly centered! Why is that notable? Because Sideswipe's is NOT. It looks like whoever tampographed all of the Autobot sigils on Sideswipe was fooled by the hardpoint on the just left of the center of the chest/hood. The Autobot sigil is offset to the right a bit if you look at the whole chest/hood and mentally ignore the unsymmetrically placed hard point. Apparently, whoever did the tampos for Red Alert realized the mistake with Sideswipe and didn't repeat it. Every sample of Sideswipe I've seen has a misaligned tampographs on the chest. I wonder if the error was caught in time to correct the Takara Tomy run of products?
I've been wondering if it was everyone's Sideswipe or just mine (brought it up weeks ago). It really bugged the **** out of me until every pic online are slightly off center. Still bugs the **** out of me actually. Good that they fixed it, bad they dropped the shoulder cannon. Guess you can't eat your cake after all.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:21 am

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Was watching interviews with Warden from Toy Fair, and he confirmed backwards compatibility for Omega Surpeme's base mode with bases from the Prime Was trilogy.
Also, Jetfire's cockpit is backwards compatible with the prime masters and titan masters which can ride in it.

So lots of backwards compatibility at play. I guess I will keep my fort max afterall (was seriously thinking of selling him) to make a giant conected city.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:27 am

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william-james88 wrote: Jetfire's cockpit is backwards compatible with the prime masters and titan masters which can ride in it.

Well THAT, is super cool.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby no-one » Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:41 am

Cobotron wrote:
william-james88 wrote: Jetfire's cockpit is backwards compatible with the prime masters and titan masters which can ride in it.
Well THAT, is super cool.
Someone linked a video here with Warden showing off Jetfire and all the cool that he can do. Not sure if it was ever front paged or not. The deluxe figure air drop option is hokey toy fun looking too. Just hand grips on the landing gear iirc. Reminds me of toys being actual toys, crazy right?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:11 am

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carytheone wrote:Reminds me of toys being actual toys, crazy right?

I think we have had a ton of that lately. Prime was was all about gimicks and toys interacting with one another to switch limbs or heads depending the toyline.
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Postby o.supreme » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:22 am

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There really wasn't any info on Greenlight (or Lancer for that matter)...at NYTF. Does she have a number designation? (just considering the odd package size), hopefully she will be packaged with another bot, hopefully not an exclusive, but if she is only available on Hasbro's site, it might not be that bad.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:45 am

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o.supreme wrote:There really wasn't any info on Greenlight (or Lancer for that matter)...at NYTF. Does she have a number designation? (just considering the odd package size), hopefully she will be packaged with another bot, hopefully not an exclusive, but if she is only available on Hasbro's site, it might not be that bad.


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Postby TF-fan kev777 » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:48 am

o.supreme wrote:There really wasn't any info on Greenlight (or Lancer for that matter)...at NYTF. Does she have a number designation? (just considering the odd package size), hopefully she will be packaged with another bot, hopefully not an exclusive, but if she is only available on Hasbro's site, it might not be that bad.


Nothing from toyfair, just the previous info. She'll be packaged with Dazzlestrike, a redeco of Lionizer. She'll be part of Siege, but because of the non-standard package and pricepoint, my bet is on her being an online only item.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:50 am

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william-james88 wrote: Jetfire's cockpit is backwards compatible with the prime masters and titan masters which can ride in it.

Well THAT, is super cool.

Do you know if the ports for those effects are the same size as the ports for titan master feet?
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Postby o.supreme » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:54 am

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william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:There really wasn't any info on Greenlight (or Lancer for that matter)...at NYTF. Does she have a number designation? (just considering the odd package size), hopefully she will be packaged with another bot, hopefully not an exclusive, but if she is only available on Hasbro's site, it might not be that bad.


Here is a news story about greenlight to help you catch up : https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ice/42708/


thank you. I actually recall this story now, but kind of distanced myself from it. Even Amazon is prone to spurious listings at times, and until it is actually available, I'm skeptical. Still, this points me me in the right direction. If this means the 4 Amazon exclusives released in 2018 were successful, the perhaps this is the start of more.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:58 am

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o.supreme wrote: If this means the 4 Amazon exclusives released in 2018 were successful, the perhaps this is the start of more.

I think they were. Haha, I wrote a whole story about how that contributed to last year beign one of the best for colelctors. It was much easier to get exclusives than before.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby no-one » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:15 am

william-james88 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
william-james88 wrote: Jetfire's cockpit is backwards compatible with the prime masters and titan masters which can ride in it.

Well THAT, is super cool.
Do you know if the ports for those effects are the same size as the ports for titan master feet?
What ports chu talkin bout Willis?

This is a thing?

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But the effect peg nubbins are too big for their feet.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SpikeyTigertron » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:29 am

william-james88 wrote:Was watching interviews with Warden from Toy Fair, and he confirmed backwards compatibility for Omega Surpeme's base mode with bases from the Prime Was trilogy.
Also, Jetfire's cockpit is backwards compatible with the prime masters and titan masters which can ride in it.

So lots of backwards compatibility at play. I guess I will keep my fort max afterall (was seriously thinking of selling him) to make a giant conected city.


I’ve been on the fence about letting Metroplex go. At least Fort Max had connects for all the other leaders.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:42 am

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SpikeyTigertron wrote:I’ve been on the fence about letting Metroplex go. At least Fort Max had connects for all the other leaders.


Hey if you ever want to give up Metroplex let me know. He is going to make a fine centerpiece of my *hopeful* one day giant connected city ;) .
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