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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nathaniel Prime » Wed May 22, 2019 8:53 am

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william-james88 wrote:
00Stargrave00 wrote:Every day I look at my TR Domey and Rewind and I know it wasn’t that long ago but I want Cybertronian versions of my favorite TF couple. It’s Chromewind :lol:


Chromedome's alt mode isn't cybertronian?
And I don't believe that that tank mode of Rewind's is based on any Earth tank either.


Fair points, and I guess anything "futuristic" can be considered Cybertronian as well, so that's cool ;)

Siege needs a Bumblebee, and maybe a Wingblade. A retool of Generations Cosmos as Bumblebee, with a helicopter pack and minifigure of Rubble to fit the Deluxe price point would be nice in my opinion
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed May 22, 2019 8:59 am

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Nathaniel Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
00Stargrave00 wrote:Every day I look at my TR Domey and Rewind and I know it wasn’t that long ago but I want Cybertronian versions of my favorite TF couple. It’s Chromewind :lol:


Chromedome's alt mode isn't cybertronian?
And I don't believe that that tank mode of Rewind's is based on any Earth tank either.


Fair points, and I guess anything "futuristic" can be considered Cybertronian as well, so that's cool ;)

Siege needs a Bumblebee, and maybe a Wingblade. A retool of Generations Cosmos as Bumblebee, with a helicopter pack and minifigure of Rubble to fit the Deluxe price point would be nice in my opinion


I dont know, all I hear is
"oh no, more bumblebee"
"oh no, more unecessary random retools"
"oh no, more windblade"

Personally, I think its a breath of fresh air to not have BB or Windblade in Siege. We already have a lot of the regular crew but with new molds that were very much needed, having those too might have been a bit much.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Wed May 22, 2019 9:01 am

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I should have clarified - for Domey a vehicle mode more akin to his IDW iteration and for Rewind his “tank mode” yeah the box with a stick on it would be fun to see as some companion piece memory stick or just a neat little racer. Some way of incorporating then together.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Wed May 22, 2019 9:04 am

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william-james88 wrote:
Nathaniel Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
00Stargrave00 wrote:Every day I look at my TR Domey and Rewind and I know it wasn’t that long ago but I want Cybertronian versions of my favorite TF couple. It’s Chromewind :lol:


Chromedome's alt mode isn't cybertronian?
And I don't believe that that tank mode of Rewind's is based on any Earth tank either.


Fair points, and I guess anything "futuristic" can be considered Cybertronian as well, so that's cool ;)

Siege needs a Bumblebee, and maybe a Wingblade. A retool of Generations Cosmos as Bumblebee, with a helicopter pack and minifigure of Rubble to fit the Deluxe price point would be nice in my opinion


I dont know, all I hear is
"oh no, more bumblebee"
"oh no, more unecessary random retools"
"oh no, more windblade"

Personally, I think its a breath of fresh air to not have BB or Windblade in Siege. We already have a lot of the regular crew but with new molds that were very much needed, having those too might have been a bit much.


That’s a great point it’s new and different that’s what I like about it too.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Wed May 22, 2019 9:05 am

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william-james88 wrote:I dont know, all I hear is
"oh no, more bumblebee"
"oh no, more unecessary random retools"
"oh no, more windblade"

Personally, I think its a breath of fresh air to not have BB or Windblade in Siege. We already have a lot of the regular crew but with new molds that were very much needed, having those too might have been a bit much.


Agreed. I mean BB basically has 2 lines all his own (Cyberverse and a good chunk of SS devoted to his self-titled film...) Windblade is a huge part of Cyberverse as well.

I mean, I imagine older fans would like to see somethign in Siege, but I seriously doubt the next 2 parts of the trilogy for 2020 & 2021 will go by without either of them making an appearance, so, while I am only getting select Siege toys, I am enjoying the uniqueness of it.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nathaniel Prime » Wed May 22, 2019 9:09 am

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o.supreme wrote:
william-james88 wrote:I dont know, all I hear is
"oh no, more bumblebee"
"oh no, more unecessary random retools"
"oh no, more windblade"

Personally, I think its a breath of fresh air to not have BB or Windblade in Siege. We already have a lot of the regular crew but with new molds that were very much needed, having those too might have been a bit much.


Agreed. I mean BB basically has 2 lines all his own (Cyberverse and a good chunk of SS devoted to his self-titled film...) Windblade is a huge part of Cyberverse as well.

I mean, I imagine older fans would like to see somethign in Siege, but I seriously doubt the next 2 parts of the trilogy for 2020 & 2021 will go by without either of them making an appearance, so, while I am only getting select Siege toys, I am enjoying the uniqueness of it.

Very good points, from the both of you.

Indeed, Bumblebee may seem to be too much now, and I agree. It's strange, but I kinda just want a definitive Bumblebee figure, and then they can ease off the character for a while.

I guess it's not like Optimus Prime, where you probably can't have too many of a good thing
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed May 22, 2019 9:11 am

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Right now, the new IDW comics are instead using Bumblebee and Windblade designs based more of those of MP-21 (at least in robot mode) and Windblade's Titans Return toy (again, in at least her robot mode).
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed May 22, 2019 9:14 am

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Nathaniel Prime wrote: It's strange, but I kinda just want a definitive Bumblebee figure, and then they can ease off the character for a while.


That exists:

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It's as definitive as Siege Prime or Megatron. And i think thats why they have been easing off on him in this line.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nathaniel Prime » Wed May 22, 2019 9:17 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Right now, the new IDW comics are instead using Bumblebee and Windblade designs based more of those of MP-21 (at least in robot mode) and Windblade's Titans Return toy (again, in at least her robot mode).


Yeah, I can agree on Bee, he looks like the Masterpiece, but I thought Wingblade was based on her T30 design? I'm not familiar with her toys too much, especially because I don't own any and I'm not too keen on owning one. Don't get me wrong, I like the character and her figures, but I have more priorities in my collection right now ;)
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Wed May 22, 2019 10:01 am

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I love Six Gun. There's another TF dream come true - to finally have gotten a Six Gun after those 3rd party versions kept tempting me all those years. He looks like a ninja. He's like the Snake Eyes of my Siege team.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Wed May 22, 2019 10:48 am

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william-james88 wrote:
Nathaniel Prime wrote: It's strange, but I kinda just want a definitive Bumblebee figure, and then they can ease off the character for a while.


That exists:

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Indeed, it does:

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Destron » Wed May 22, 2019 1:42 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Nathaniel Prime wrote: It's strange, but I kinda just want a definitive Bumblebee figure, and then they can ease off the character for a while.


That exists:

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Indeed, it does:

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed May 22, 2019 4:55 pm

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ThunderThruster wrote:Perhaps an unpopular opinion but I could see Mirage repainted (and re-headed) into Slapdash.

I would be ok with this too. Give us a less well known figure
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Wed May 22, 2019 4:58 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
ThunderThruster wrote:Perhaps an unpopular opinion but I could see Mirage repainted (and re-headed) into Slapdash.

I would be ok with this too. Give us a less well known figure


Plus, hey, it would also give us Road King when trying to complete a CHUG Masterforce display!
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Microbot » Wed May 22, 2019 5:02 pm

Some one just make a proof of Slapdash from Mirage...

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Wed May 22, 2019 5:27 pm

I've been on an Euro G1/G2 kick today (as seen by my posts on Toyhax) and since none of those characters (except maybe Leadfoot) seem like prime material for a whole new figure this got me thinking about retools. Now since we know Siege was one big GEEWUN wankery (with a few welcome oddball additions!) this got me thinking on what characters seems like they belong on the list of badly-need-a-new-CHUG figure. Its worth noting that Combiner Wars was fairly into '84 and '85 Autobots as quick and cheap rehash and clearly Hasbro saw that giving these characters a 'proper' modern toy would be very profitable. As such, here's a fairly in depth but non-exhaustive list and you'll see there's quite a bit of a repeat of guys who just had a toy...as a cheap retool.
  • Trailbreaker & Hoist: These guys had T30 toys and Trailbreaker had a CW toy. However there is no direct remake of the G1-styled Trailbreaker body type.
  • Wheeljack: Lost a fan poll but we can assume he could easily show up later in the line. Bonus point for being the very first Cybertronian mode ever shown in the TV show to boot! Has a quick and cheap retool option as Slicer.
  • Sunstreaker: You know he's going to show up at some point!
  • Blaster: Soundwave retool?
  • Warpath: If one mini bot need a bigger figure it would be Warpath.
  • Inferno: Yes he's had a toy in POTP but it was a cheap redeco of Hot Spot. Him being a new Voyager would also mean...
  • Grapple: ...this guy.
  • Tracks: Obviously another guy in the pipeline.
  • Crosshair: One of the Autobot Targetmasters missing from Titans Return. Already has a futuristic altmode and this is a line with Targetmasters.
  • Pointblank: Same as the above,
  • Sureshot: Ditto. Not only that but his altmode is some futuristic Baja buggy, just like...
  • Joyride: ...this guy. Now I don't expect him to have a Powermaster, mind you.
  • Slapdash: The guy who sparked the whole list and an easy retool of Mirage.
  • Getaway: Could be skipped as he had a Titans Return figure but that one was just a cheap retool of someone else so I suppose giving this guy a second cheap retool is pointless but still plausible.

There's also a TON of retools you could do if even a quarter of these guys came true but right now these seems like the guys on Hasbro's bucketlist when it come to completing lineups. So these all seem likely candidates for the other two lines, especially the first list. I know we'd all love to see Star Saber and Deathsaurs but part of me think that's a 50/50 for this trilogy. I'd love to see them done in the Siege style but do they fit in? Maybe. Maybe not. I know we've all been begging for Star Saber since Titans Return.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby PushYouDown » Wed May 22, 2019 5:34 pm

I'd really like a G1 homage-ing but modern take on Hoist to show up. Not crazy about the Generations one.
I just want that "fat dad in cargo shorts" charm of the first figure.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Microbot » Wed May 22, 2019 5:51 pm

Someone maybe blames me but I like really few of the PoP line robots I see and Siege have the right appeal for me to be a great series with a lot of nice came back, like the list I read 2 posts up. Love the idea of Inferno end Wheely, and for sure some better and balance Dinobots not combine... also you know...BB maybe not soon but I hope to get into. For now, I really hope Siege continues to give us great toys model like these really great and awesome to collect! :BOWDOWN: :BOWDOWN: :BOWDOWN:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Wed May 22, 2019 6:07 pm

PushYouDown wrote:I'd really like a G1 homage-ing but modern take on Hoist to show up. Not crazy about the Generations one.
I just want that "fat dad in cargo shorts" charm of the first figure.


Hoist and Trailbreaker were mold-mates in G1 so getting one should yield the other. The issue here is that one is more toy-accurate in animation models. So the mold is going to have to look more like one than the other but can't quite be accurate to both.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Wed May 22, 2019 6:30 pm

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Microbot wrote:Someone maybe blames me but I like really few of the PoP line robots I see and Siege have the right appeal for me to be a great series with a lot of nice came back, like the list I read 2 posts up. Love the idea of Inferno end Wheely, and for sure some better and balance Dinobots not combine... also you know...BB maybe not soon but I hope to get into. For now, I really hope Siege continues to give us great toys model like these really great and awesome to collect! :BOWDOWN: :BOWDOWN: :BOWDOWN:

While I enjoyed how the robot modes in POTP looked because they were new, more stylized versions with ques to the original designs, I certainly won't say no to revisiting the figures from that line. Especially the dinobots. I love Volcanicus, but Swoop definitely suffers some stability issues. When I first got my blue Swoop his legs refused to tab together and when my friend got theirs, they had the same issue, and Grimlock's T-Rex mode certainly could be better. And if Siege is anything to go off of, Hasbro and Takara have certainly stepped up their game from the what the Prime Wars lines was for future lines so no matter what designs end up being made, the figures themselves will certainly be a blast ;)^ I just hope that at some point they end up revisiting the Unicron Trilogy's figures that need it most, like Armada Scavenger. Preferably not in an entire line dedicated to them because some designs are... Not good Energon Optimus Prime :lol:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Wed May 22, 2019 6:40 pm

Honestly I'm shocked Takara never retooled CW Optimus into Energon Grand Convoy. The core cab robot just need toolings to match the vehicle, it need a new head (for both forms) and some proper deco. As for the limbs they are doable from standard CW engineering even if in Energon the Mini-Con drones lacked individual robot modes.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed May 22, 2019 6:42 pm

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Skritz wrote:Honestly I'm shocked Takara never retooled CW Optimus into Energon Grand Convoy. The core cab robot just need toolings to match the vehicle, it need a new head (for both forms) and some proper deco. As for the limbs they are doable from standard CW engineering even if in Energon the Mini-Con drones lacked individual robot modes.

They didnt need to, they released him as an homage to two versions of that same mold.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Wed May 22, 2019 6:47 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Skritz wrote:Honestly I'm shocked Takara never retooled CW Optimus into Energon Grand Convoy. The core cab robot just need toolings to match the vehicle, it need a new head (for both forms) and some proper deco. As for the limbs they are doable from standard CW engineering even if in Energon the Mini-Con drones lacked individual robot modes.

They didnt need to, they released him as an homage to two versions of that same mold.


True, but still...
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed May 22, 2019 7:26 pm

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Skritz wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Skritz wrote:Honestly I'm shocked Takara never retooled CW Optimus into Energon Grand Convoy. The core cab robot just need toolings to match the vehicle, it need a new head (for both forms) and some proper deco. As for the limbs they are doable from standard CW engineering even if in Energon the Mini-Con drones lacked individual robot modes.

They didnt need to, they released him as an homage to two versions of that same mold.


True, but still...

Still what? That design was never a fan favourite. Takara turned it into an amazing homage in CW, and even gave us a kick ass gen style release of it's redeco. There is no need for another energon prime. We have the original, we have the homage as an update, everybody wins. No need to go back to something already done.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Wed May 22, 2019 7:36 pm

Hey I just wanted a CW submarine limb, okay!? :lol:
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