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Twincast/Podcast Episode #58 "Armada"

PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:55 pm
by Razorclaw0000
The Seibertron.com Twincast/Podcast is proud to present our latest episode, featuring host Counterpunch and fellow podcasters Jon 3.0, Tigertracks 24, and Razorclaw0000, along with special guest Blurrz. The episode is available directly and in our RSS Feed and should appear on iTunes in 24 to 48 hours.

Topics include:

New Images of Upcoming Masterpiece, Arms Micron, Alternity GT, and Capbots.
Thundertron Concept Art
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Spoiler heavy comic discussion on Rage of the Dinobots #1, More Than Meets The Eye #11, and Robots In Disguise #11
Transformers Armada 10th Anniversary Roundtable

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For more Transformers Armada discussion, please visit our Anniversary article.

Seibertron.com is your ultimate Transformers resource!

Re: Twincast/Podcast Episode #58 "Armada"

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:18 am
by Blurrz
NTS - Don't play with Armada Hoist while recording

Re: Twincast/Podcast Episode #58 "Armada"

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:10 pm
by STngAR
Another great show guys. Although I couldnt watch Armada went it came out, and tried to give it a go a few years back there were some good toys from the series. Ive tried giving comics a read a few times but all ended in failure. Again I enjoy listening to the show :MAXIMAL:














Ping.........Ping............Ping

Re: Twincast/Podcast Episode #58 "Armada"

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:59 pm
by Sabrblade
Just don't think of Slug as G1 Slag. Also, Japan, never got the WFC/FOC video games. ;)

I think the G1 Starscream also had a female fanbase, particularly in Japan since his Japanese voice wasn't like the high-pitched raspy shrill voice Chris Latta gave him, but more of a... "Bishonen" voice that many a Japanese female would find attractive.

That planet they fought Nemesis Prime on and got their Powerlinx colors wasn't Unicron. It was a planet composed of salt and technorganic materials. When we see them on Unicron later in the series but prior to Unicron's awakening, it's shown as a very dark and horrifying place, unlike the bright and sunlight look of the planet Nemesis was on.

Unicron's heralds in the comic were Galvatron, Scourge, Dirge, Thunderwing, and Bludgeon. :D

You could easily stop the countdown on Jetfire's weapon. While pulling the fin started the countdown, pressing it made the gun laser sound, which could stop the countdown. ;)

LOL at the countdown noise near the end. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Rollermaster is Straxus and Choppermaster is Blaze Master. No, really. That's who their true identities are. "Rollermaster" and "Choppermaster" are codenames. ;)

Another great and moderate-in-length one, guys. :APPLAUSE:

Re: Twincast/Podcast Episode #58 "Armada"

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:19 pm
by lonrac
Another great show guys,

Re: the New alternity, so what happened with Fortress???

Re Armada: the minicons redesigned the collectability of the toys,
and all the blind bags........... I still like to pop any universes minicons Universe/Generations/micron boosters, on Primes trailer/base.

Linkage was the best Comic of the series, and I'm not just thinking about Stella .

Re: Twincast/Podcast Episode #58 "Armada"

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:20 pm
by Sabrblade
lonrac wrote:Re: the New alternity, so what happened with Fortress???
He's coming in Wave 2. Prime and Saber are the ones coming first, though, so they're all we've seen so far.

Re: Twincast/Podcast Episode #58 "Armada"

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:34 pm
by Samsonator
Another excellent foray into the madness that is the Twincast. Really glad about this one, as I've been going out of my way to hear fan opinions on Armada ten years later. I may not have the entire line, or mass amounts of mini-cons/microns, but I loved that line, and the comics, and to a far lesser extent, the show. In all forms of media, it really did have a lot going on, and paved the way for a lot of things to come, so it's really nice to hear a retrospective look at the good and the bad of this surprisingly influential series. Good on ya, gents.

Re: Twincast/Podcast Episode #58 "Armada"

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:14 am
by Flux Convoy
To this day, I do not get the love for Armada, the cartoon. It's pretty wretched. The first half of the first episode is great. Then, straight downhill. Go watch it again, I'll wait. Yes, some concepts were introduced that were interesting. Most were introduced poorly or in a completely confusing manner. Nearly the entirety of the show is difficult to watch due to how poor the writing and dialogue is. I beg you to watch it again and reconsider how you view it. The rose-tinted recollection is hard to swallow.

The comics however and later Energon, good stuff. I was sad to see the book cancelled and was very interested in seeing where it was going. The dimension hopping? It's what my avatar and sig, my entire Seibertron persona is based on.
:BOT:

Re: Twincast/Podcast Episode #58 "Armada"

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:21 am
by Rodimus Prime
Armada revived my waning love for Transformers, from the comics to the toys to the cartoon. Sadly, it was followed up by the worst series in TF, Energon and Cybertron. I was glad that I got to watch Super-Link and Galaxy Force later on. HUGE difference.

Re: Twincast/Podcast Episode #58 "Armada"

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:35 am
by Flux Convoy
Oh, and I'm surprised nobody jumped on this yet. Jetfire's gun makes another noise when you flick the sound trigger/activator upwards instead of down. It can be used to interrupt the countdown/pinging. Nobody else discovered this? For shame Armada fans! ;)
:BOT:

Re: Twincast/Podcast Episode #58 "Armada"

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:39 am
by Sabrblade
Flux Convoy wrote:Oh, and I'm surprised nobody jumped on this yet. Jetfire's gun makes another noise when you flick the sound trigger/activator upwards instead of down. It can be used to interrupt the countdown/pinging. Nobody else discovered this? For shame Armada fans! ;)
:BOT:
That's what I wrote.

Re: Twincast/Podcast Episode #58 "Armada"

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:40 am
by Flux Convoy
Missed that, sorry.
:BOT:

Re: Twincast/Podcast Episode #58 "Armada"

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:20 pm
by Counterpunch
Sabrblade wrote:
Flux Convoy wrote:Oh, and I'm surprised nobody jumped on this yet. Jetfire's gun makes another noise when you flick the sound trigger/activator upwards instead of down. It can be used to interrupt the countdown/pinging. Nobody else discovered this? For shame Armada fans! ;)
:BOT:
That's what I wrote.


I knew but had no interest in killing the joke. ;)

That's called being a professional.

Re: Twincast/Podcast Episode #58 "Armada"

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:47 pm
by IronhidesGhost
I've got the Smokescreen with the micron on the back (arm swapped so the decal faces forward) and you all must do yourelves a favor and order that figure. It blew my mind. The mold suddenly pops with the color scheme. I showed my dad a side by side with him and Knockout and then told him it was the same mold. He said... NO WAY. So yeah... pull the trigger. Buy the figure. He will blow you away. There is a review up on youtube that should convince you, but even that doesn't do the in hand justice.

Re: Twincast/Podcast Episode #58 "Armada"

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:32 am
by joevill
I qued the podcast to download Monday night. I saw the name of the episode and I think it effected my sleep. That night I dreamed I was at a Super Walmart (It looked like an indoor swap meet). There was a huge card that had the first wave (Prime with deluxe Autobots and Megatron with deluxe Decepticons) for sale. It was some sort of 10 year anniversary package. It is funny how quickly reading something has an impact on your dreams!

Flux Convoy wrote:To this day, I do not get the love for Armada, the cartoon. It's pretty wretched. The first half of the first episode is great. Then, straight downhill. Go watch it again, I'll wait. Yes, some concepts were introduced that were interesting. Most were introduced poorly or in a completely confusing manner. Nearly the entirety of the show is difficult to watch due to how poor the writing and dialogue is. I beg you to watch it again and reconsider how you view it. The rose-tinted recollection is hard to swallow.

The comics however and later Energon, good stuff. I was sad to see the book cancelled and was very interested in seeing where it was going. The dimension hopping? It's what my avatar and sig, my entire Seibertron persona is based on.
:BOT:


Even though I agree with the Podcast how the show improved as it went on, I feel the same way about about the cartoon too. As I watched it I felt like I was waiting for something good to happen. It lacked action. I remember when Hotshot got the Star Saber and it got exciting. It had me at the edge but nothing happened. I remember the Unicron tease with the annoying kids (BTW Carlos is the most annoying closely followed by Alexis). I continued to watch just to see what they do with Unicron. It was a loooooooooooooong wait!! :BOOM:

Blurrz wrote:NTS - Don't play with Armada Hoist while recording

Don't play with Armada Jetfire. That engine gun always goes off. I hate it.

STngAR wrote:Ping.........Ping............Ping


Stop it! ARghhh!! I think the anxiety of hearing that ping sound on the podcast made me gain more gray. :HEADHURTS:


I kept getting Tweets from a few people (who I shall not name) so I created a little video for them. :michaelbay:
Ping.........Ping............Ping

There wasn't a lot of Transformers news but Counterpunch, Jon 3.0, Tigertracks 24, Razorclaw0000, and Blurrz made it fun! I look forward to doing botshots with you Blurrz! :KREMZEEK:

Re: Twincast/Podcast Episode #58 "Armada"

PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:30 pm
by lonrac
got the club astrotrain from a sale,

never could get that gun to worke

Re: Twincast/Podcast Episode #58 "Armada"

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:39 pm
by Vile MK III
Great episode guys =D The Armada discussion would of been a great time to b ring back the listener call-in ;)

As a side note, my vote goes to a Figma Misha from energon, origanal and black biker repaint :KREMZEEK:

Re: Twincast/Podcast Episode #58 "Armada"

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:09 pm
by Counterpunch
Vile MK III wrote:As a side note, my vote goes to a Figma Misha from energon, origanal and black biker repaint :KREMZEEK:


Hell yeah!

Re: Twincast/Podcast Episode #58 "Armada"

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:17 pm
by Flux Convoy
Counterpunch wrote:
Vile MK III wrote:As a side note, my vote goes to a Figma Misha from energon, origanal and black biker repaint :KREMZEEK:


Hell yeah!

I'd rather have a Micro(man)lady Misha in the yellow and orange outfit. Surprised we got Kicker and not her. Dunno what the beef is with Microman but they are great figures. Especially for their time. They preceded all the super articulated stuff that Toybiz was producing for Marvel Legends.
:BOT:

Re: Twincast/Podcast Episode #58 "Armada"

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:16 am
by Rodimus Prime
Counterpunch wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Flux Convoy wrote:Oh, and I'm surprised nobody jumped on this yet. Jetfire's gun makes another noise when you flick the sound trigger/activator upwards instead of down. It can be used to interrupt the countdown/pinging. Nobody else discovered this? For shame Armada fans! ;)
:BOT:
That's what I wrote.


I knew but had no interest in killing the joke. ;)


I also knew but was too lazy to reply.

Re: Twincast/Podcast Episode #58 "Armada"

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:53 pm
by Counterpunch
Flux Convoy wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
Vile MK III wrote:As a side note, my vote goes to a Figma Misha from energon, origanal and black biker repaint :KREMZEEK:


Hell yeah!

I'd rather have a Micro(man)lady Misha in the yellow and orange outfit. Surprised we got Kicker and not her. Dunno what the beef is with Microman but they are great figures. Especially for their time. They preceded all the super articulated stuff that Toybiz was producing for Marvel Legends.
:BOT:


I'll give you that it would be pretty cool to be able to pair her with Kicker in the MM format.

I think the real issue with MM figures at this point is that the sculpting never kept up. They can hide the joints pretty well now so I'd be interested in giving them another try.

Re: Twincast/Podcast Episode #58 "Armada"

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:26 am
by Dammitman
I was listening to several of your podcasts at work when you were discussing Fall of Cybertron game. The issue of Slag/Slug came up and I wanted to point out that Borderlands 2 came out shortly after FoC and it too was released in the UK and they did not change their Slag weapons to Slug weapons. So, What does High Moon have to say to THAT!?

Re: Twincast/Podcast Episode #58 "Armada"

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:01 pm
by Sabrblade
Dammitman wrote:I was listening to several of your podcasts at work when you were discussing Fall of Cybertron game. The issue of Slag/Slug came up and I wanted to point out that Borderlands 2 came out shortly after FoC and it too was released in the UK and they did not change their Slag weapons to Slug weapons. So, What does High Moon have to say to THAT!?
"Slag to Slug" was most likely a Hasbro mandate since it's a name that would appear in things beyond the video game. Should they made a toy of Slug, UK children would be buying a toy whose name is slur word if Hasbro had left it as "Slag".

It'd be no different if Hasbro made a Transformers toy named "Whore" in the U.S. They can't use those kinds of name without causing trouble.

Besides, FOC has a weapon called a "Slagmaker" (cannon, I think?). In that case, it's a name that, like the Borderlands 2 Slag weapons, most likely will remain in the game and will not be applied to children's merchandise. Therefore, it's usable in that regard.

Re: Twincast/Podcast Episode #58 "Armada"

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:40 pm
by Dammitman
Your explaination makes sense but why not just leave Slag in the game and sell the toy as Slug in the UK? It wouldn't be the first Time Hasbro has made a faux pas like that. (Transformers 2007 Devestator in film/Brawl in toy)

Re: Twincast/Podcast Episode #58 "Armada"

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:51 pm
by Sabrblade
Dammitman wrote:Your explaination makes sense but why not just leave Slag in the game and sell the toy as Slug in the UK? It wouldn't be the first Time Hasbro has made a faux pas like that. (Transformers 2007 Devestator in film/Brawl in toy)
Using a single defined name in everything creates a better sense of unity and uniformity across multiple media formats and global markets, which is a much better and smarter business practice than to otherwise use inconsistency with the name. ;)

Not to mention that this isn't G1 Slag anyway. :-B