IAmThePeej wrote: The amount a movie makes in a box office does NOT dictate if a movie is good or not. Let's use another movie as an example, Avatar. This movie (Avatar) made over $2 BILLION worldwide, yet its nothing more than a horrible rip off of Pocahontas. Its a movie that assumes the entire audience is either too young to understand what's going on or is mentally handicapped by beating the plot over your head, telling you what is going to happen and 5 minutes later, what was described happened. The movie was even mocked during a recent award show (I forget exactly which one at the moment though).
I agree that Avatar is nothing speacial. To me it was nothing more than politcal propoganda about how goverment is ruining the enviorment and pushing around "the little guy". But while i didn't enjoy it for my own reasons, it doesn'y make it a bad movie. Just like your reasons for not liking it also doesn't make it a bad movie. Mearly a movie you didn't like. Those are your and my opinions. Nothing more, nothing less.
IAmThePeej wrote: So by saying "deal with it", you mean, we have no choice but to watch what has been churned out whether its good or not? Not true, we have the ultimate voice at the end of this all, or rather our money does. If we don't like it, we can simply not pay for tickets to see the movie, not pay for the toys, or stationary or any other form of merchandise based on it.
I believe by saying "deal with it", he means you need to deal with the fact that these movies, and any made after are made for the masses and not for TF "fans". And your right, we do have the ultimate say, rather our money does. We could not have seen the movie, nor paid for merchandise. Bu you know what? We did. We did see the movie (many multiple times, as well as bought the murchandise. And with over $1,000,000,000 made world wide, i'd say the masses aprove.
IAmThePeej wrote:I really don't remember anyone saying anything about how weak Prime was, to be honest, it was a good idea, making him like that to make the odds seem to be in the Decepticons' favour. Also, just because people want a darker story, doesn't mean the characters have to all be mass murderers. That is just alienating its core audience, which as we all know, are children between the ages of 8 and 15. It is possible to have a dark vision, but not have death every scene.
I remember it. And yes, a darker story generally means the characters or going to have a bit of a darker side to go with it. i timid Optimus Prime would have been completely out of place in the story. This is not a cartoon. Lazers aren't bouncing off megatron and no ones retreating at the end. Earth was about to be enslaved. Sorry, but there's no time for one of G1 Optimus "lesons". It was time to kick some ass. And Optimus took names!
IAmThePeej wrote: There is one major difference between Uwe Boll and Michael Bay. Uwe knows he's making horrible movies, he purposely does so. He has admitted he makes them bad. He is able to make a better movie, but doesn't.
NO, no, no, no , no...No. Uwe Boll may know he's making bad movies, but that's only because he's not capable of doing any better. I don't believe for one second, regardless of wether or not he says, makes bad movies on purpose. If he's truely capable of makeing a better movie then he would. Plain and simple. No one wants to purposely have the reputation in the industry that he does.
IAmThePeej wrote: Bay, on the other hand, seriously thinks his movies are as good as say, Francis Ford Coppola's. HE BELIEVES that people WANT to see what he makes, no matter what it is. HE thinks he's Hollywood's only good director. He is an arrogant prick who has no ability and should be blacklisted from any and all movies.
That's because people do want to see his movies. He's revenue track proves that. And they want to see his movies because he gives the audience what they want to see. Proof? Again, in the revenue. Yuo can deny this all you want and call him every name in the book, but bottom line is when Bay's attached to the film, it generaly is recieved very well at the box office.
And speaking of name calling, have you meet Bay? Have you had a one on one chat with him? What evidence do you have that he believes he hollywoods only good director?
IAmThePeej wrote:I feel that if Boll wanted to really apply himself, he could actually make a very decent film. Remember, I said decent, not great, spectacular or amazing. But if he put more than $1,000,000 behind a movie he makes, the results could make him known for films that aren't fully horrid.
Concidering the amount of experiance he has, there's no room for "decent" movie making. either your good, or your not. And Uwe Boll has demonstrated he's the latter.