Unleash the Beast Wars! The Beast Wars Toys Appreciation Thread

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Re: Unleash the Beast Wars! The Beast Wars Toys Appreciation Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:12 am

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Of course. I do think OpOp is the weakest of the TM 1 line by a wide margin. One bad one out of a line of thirteen strong (fifteen, if you include the Tigatron and Ravage retools) is overall an extremely positive average.

TM 2 was 17 strong (18 with Ravage) and only really missed the mark with Megs, Cheetor and, to a lesser extent, Dinobot 2.

This level of quality folks, is why the TM line is still so highly regarded.
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Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:15 am

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Outside of the issues with the hands, I love Dinobot II. That is such a good toy, and was my first Transmetal II toy. I love the dino mode a ton
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Re: Unleash the Beast Wars! The Beast Wars Toys Appreciation Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:19 am

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I still think he would have been better served as 'Grimlock' in name and on the show. Leaving Dinobot with one of the best episodes in all of Transformers. Meanwhile at the same time tapping into the G1 mixing themes of Season 3 and giving a nice nod to the white redeco of base Dinobot.
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Re: Unleash the Beast Wars! The Beast Wars Toys Appreciation Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:49 am

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Re: Unleash the Beast Wars! The Beast Wars Toys Appreciation Thread

Postby Skritz » Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:57 am

Am I the only one who unironically like Optimal Optimus as a design? But maybe it's just because he was among my favorite toys and de-facto 'leader' of any Maximal (and non-Transformers good guys) when I was playing as a kid. He was a big, impressive toy and Beast Wars was my favorite show as a kid and the excellent Franco-Belgian dub helped me appreciate it even more as I understood what was going on. So maybe at the end of the day my attachment is purely because of the show, the character and having played a ton with the toy more than any strength to the design.

Somehow I can't bring myself to hate the Optimal Optimus design and was among the first people to be hyped as **** when it was leaked that it would show up in POTP once we knew Primal had won the vote.
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Re: Unleash the Beast Wars! The Beast Wars Toys Appreciation Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sat Apr 25, 2020 1:34 pm

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I think Season 3 based toys were a hard sell. Season 3 didn't air on TV in the UK. I only saw it when they released the complete series as two VHS volumes (dated that a little).

So for me, Transmetals are the ones I'm the most fond of. Because Season 2 was the only one I got to watch from start to finish in order, when it first aired. Depth Charge is the only Season 3 figure that I bought before even knowing he was going to be in the show. He and Tigerhawk are the only two show figures from that season I really liked.
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Re: Unleash the Beast Wars! The Beast Wars Toys Appreciation Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:32 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:I meant to ask when you posted these, but do you have Ultra Mammoth? He's my favorite of this mold.

I do not have him, He's a pretty sweet use of the mold, but I definitely love my Anime Big Convoy, that is my favorite use
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Re: Unleash the Beast Wars! The Beast Wars Toys Appreciation Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:45 pm

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Skritz wrote:Am I the only one who unironically like Optimal Optimus as a design?
No, a lot of people like it, myself included.

Skritz wrote:Somehow I can't bring myself to hate the Optimal Optimus design and was among the first people to be hyped as **** when it was leaked that it would show up in POTP once we knew Primal had won the vote.
I like the Optimal Optimus design, but I think it ends up suffering on the PotP toy because of the evolution gimmick.
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Re: Unleash the Beast Wars! The Beast Wars Toys Appreciation Thread

Postby Skritz » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:30 pm

Aside from Optimus Primal turning into a space turd log I found it to be quite a good update, especially in the full super robot mode, as it has much better proportions and poseability than the original. Yeah it has a big flat backpack, but at least now the backpack is folded along the backside of the robot mode and you have the option of 'retracting' the guns like the show's cgi model, even if its done via partforming. The original had this humongous perpendicular brick of an electronic part that look really awful.

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Re: Unleash the Beast Wars! The Beast Wars Toys Appreciation Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:04 pm

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The PotP Primal is a really good mold. For the retail release, I removed the pin to disconnect the small Primal, but he can still combine for the necessary parts (jet mode, surfing monkey mode). The figure is just really good and enjoyable!

The SDCC one, I kept Primal attached since he actually blends right in nicely. Plus, I love that crown
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Re: Unleash the Beast Wars! The Beast Wars Toys Appreciation Thread

Postby Skritz » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:20 pm

The SDCC Optimal Optimus is a great figure and really locks the best elements of the Optimal Optimus design (if you're into its weird design, like me) with the advantage of the more coherent and arguably 'saner' color scheme of season 1 Primal. Given its got a smaller robot mode and a 'super mode' it makes me think of 'What Optimus Primal got a Powermaster Prime-style upgrade' since it basically does something similar to Powermaster Prime with a dash of Ultra Pretenders.
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Re: Unleash the Beast Wars! The Beast Wars Toys Appreciation Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:12 am

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I think in terms of design, OpOp worked better in Beast Machines. Certainly better than the default show design for BM Primal. He almost has a Vehicon look to his aesthetic. Remove the Beast Mode and he could have passed for one quite easily. Which is why I think the design worked so well in that shows finale.
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Re: Unleash the Beast Wars! The Beast Wars Toys Appreciation Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:52 am

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I think in terms of design, OpOp worked better in Beast Machines. Certainly better than the default show design for BM Primal. He almost has a Vehicon look to his aesthetic. Remove the Beast Mode and he could have passed for one quite easily. Which is why I think the design worked so well in that shows finale.

Never thought of it that way, but it makes a degree of sense
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Re: Unleash the Beast Wars! The Beast Wars Toys Appreciation Thread

Postby TulioDude » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:00 pm

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I have one unpopular opinion,from what I can gather from these forums,but I think when talking about OpOp,his "car" mode is the better of the two vehicles modes.
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Re: Unleash the Beast Wars! The Beast Wars Toys Appreciation Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:43 am

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Objectively, at least the "car" looks like an altmode. The "jet" is essentially just the Superman pose, with his head tucked in.
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Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:24 pm

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Having all 3 uses of this mold now, I really wish they could have gone ahead with the million dollar publishing repaint design for this, which was Transmetal Silverbolt. This mold would fit so nicely!

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Re: Unleash the Beast Wars! The Beast Wars Toys Appreciation Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:10 pm

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Loved the Beast Hunter Predacons, though sadly I never got that one.
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Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:16 pm

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Oh is that what that is from?

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I thought it was some 3P thing of this guy. Also googled 'Transmetal Silverbolt' too. It showed of pics of Reappropriating TM 2 Jawbreaker, with wings. That would have been awesome.


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Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:28 pm

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If I remember right, it placed 3rd behind Goshooter and another one, can't remember though. Would have been sweet to see another Transmetal Fuzor
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Re: Unleash the Beast Wars! The Beast Wars Toys Appreciation Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:27 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:If I remember right, it placed 3rd behind Goshooter and another one, can't remember though. Would have been sweet to see another Transmetal Fuzor


Here are the full results from the poll:

1: Goshooter out of Gen. Nightbeat
2: Alpha Trin/Alpha Trion out of Gen. Scourge
3: Metals Silverbolt out of Prime Grimwing
4: Autobot Drift in AoE deco from the Gen. mold
5: The Fallen out of Gen. FoC Onslaught, with Ruination head
6: Sunstreaker Police Type (aka Cordon) out of Universe Sunstreaker
7: Decepticon Smokescreen out of Universe Silverstreak. Deco is based on G2 Smokescreen that came with Dreadwing
7: Overdrive out of Universe Silverstreak
9: Camshaft/Downshift out of Gen. Wheeljack
10: Downshift/Camshaft out of Universe Ironhide

For a BW character among G1 ones he did really well. :APPLAUSE:

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He looks like a pre-TM2 Slapper, doesn't he?

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Re: Unleash the Beast Wars! The Beast Wars Toys Appreciation Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:44 pm

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I love that Claw Jaw with those colors, if it weren't for Scuba in BWII I would probably get those colors instead of regular Claw Jaw/Scuba (I don't have the mold yet at all FYI just future fun plans).

Tako Tank is probably my grail item left to find in terms of BW figures
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Re: Unleash the Beast Wars! The Beast Wars Toys Appreciation Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:44 pm

Motto: "Why are Beast Hunters Ultimate/Dragon Attack Optimus' sword and shield so hard to find?"
Do you happen to have Ga'mede? He would go with that tank a lot better than its nominal pilot.
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Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:42 pm

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Do you happen to have Ga'mede? He would go with that tank a lot better than its nominal pilot.

Have who?
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Re: Unleash the Beast Wars! The Beast Wars Toys Appreciation Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:53 pm

Motto: "Why are Beast Hunters Ultimate/Dragon Attack Optimus' sword and shield so hard to find?"
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Do you happen to have Ga'mede? He would go with that tank a lot better than its nominal pilot.

Have who?
Ga'mede, the Microman guy who came with Magnificus:
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Basically... Niagara Base and the Tako Tank have long been suspected of being leftover product from the then-most-recent Microman line, given that they were obviously designed for figures smaller than Transformers.
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Re: Unleash the Beast Wars! The Beast Wars Toys Appreciation Thread

Postby Rogue-Primal » Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:43 am

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Just wondering with the siege line already pulling out micromaster and targetmaster sets...does anyone think beast wars might get a chance instead of being stuck with only getting masterpiece figures. I'm talking about remastered transmetal figures or new updates to first versions of figures like rattrap silverbolt rampage and even tigatron or tarantulas or blackarachnia from the show as the main lineup.

Personally i'd really love to see a new version of Rattrap since he did not show up when the Generations came out. and preferrably not a battle armor, 1-step or any other silly version in the cyberverse line.
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