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News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 12:22 pm

If this was a toy, I'd buy it and chunk out the original Classics 'Bee I already own. :lol:

News Credits: 7 · by **alldarker** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:23 pm

Mindmaster wrote:If this was a toy, I'd buy it and chunk out the original Classics 'Bee I already own.

But... It is a toy!

G1 Pretender Bumblebee:

And coincidently enough, I recently picked up this guy loose but complete too, together with the Pretender Grimlock I mentioned earlier in this thread.

News Credits: 3597 · by **Seibertron** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:53 pm

alldarker wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:If this was a toy, I'd buy it and chunk out the original Classics 'Bee I already own.

But... It is a toy!

G1 Pretender Bumblebee:

And coincidently enough, I recently picked up this guy loose but complete too, together with the Pretender Grimlock I mentioned earlier in this thread.

Anyone ever notice how Pretender / Legends Bumblebee has Cliffjumper's head?

by **quickmixed** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:14 pm

These are great Guido. So can we expect Victory Jazz next? Keep them coming. Its things like this, that I believe, help make you the fans favourite :APPLAUSE:

QM

News Credits: 17 · by **cannonfodder4000** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:00 pm

alldarker wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:If this was a toy, I'd buy it and chunk out the original Classics 'Bee I already own.

But... It is a toy!

G1 Pretender Bumblebee:

And coincidently enough, I recently picked up this guy loose but complete too, together with the Pretender Grimlock I mentioned earlier in this thread.

I think he means one that looks as good as Guidi's art, which I agree on, there should totally be one in this style.

News Credits: 5749 · by **El Duque** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:43 pm

We've seen Guido Guidi's take on Victory Starscream, how about a look at his concept for Starscream's Masterforce Pretender shell? Check the WIP image mirrored from his deviantART page.

News Credits: 2 · by **F Prime** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:48 pm

El Duque wrote:We've seen Guido Guidi's take on Victory Starscream, how about a look at his concept for Starscream's Masterforce Pretender shell? Check the WIP image mirrored from his deviantART page.

Great pic, but every time I look at it I am drawn to the "lightning" leaving Screamer's codpiece.

by **Hellscream85** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:20 pm

Starscream isn't just a Pretender now, He is all a member of Victory's lesser known "Ballforce" which had a similar gimmick to the Breastforce, this of course put him in direct conflict with Leozack when he used his "Ballforce" abilities to impress Leozack's sister Lyzack

by **Hellscream85** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:23 pm

El Duque wrote:Artist Guido Guido has updated his deviantART account with a few unofficial pieces of Transformers art. Below we see Victory Starscream and toy accurate cartoon versions of Stunticons Dead End and Breakdown.

Just a quick experiment...what if the 1989 Starscream toy was featured in the Victory series?

Here's another experiment I wanted to do since long time.
Many characters in the G1 cartoon diverged greatly from their toy counterpart (most likely due different production schedules), so here's my first try:
toy-accurate "animation model" Stunticon Dead End!

Another toy-accurate model sheet for a character that greatly diverged from his toy counterpart - Stunticon Breakdown!

Since I did a Victory version of Starscream (based on the 1989 pretender inner robot) here're his 2 "brothers" too!
Just a cheap swap on palette

Another quick take on the recent TF:Victory Starscream piece:

Thundercracker in Action Masters Colors!
Cover your eyes!

These seeker's are what Prime Starscream should have looked like instead of the piece of **** that he is

News Credits: 17 · by **cannonfodder4000** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:39 pm

Hellscream85 wrote:These seeker's are what Prime Starscream should have looked like instead of the piece of **** that he is

Yeah, he should have looked exactly like G1 Starscream, and totally not fit in with the art style of the show, brilliant suggestion. |:|

News Credits: 1 · by **Bumblevivisector** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:12 pm

A tad off-topic, but I'm not the only one who assumed Starscream's Pretender Shell's head gave us insight as to what Cobra Commander looks like unmasked, am I?

Or did the big CC doll in the early '90s look different?

Regardless, as goofy as that toy might seem to some in hindsight, it was my first Starscream toy ever back in the day, so it's nice to see it get some professional love. Can't wait to see what artistic license Guido might take with Pretender Jazz...

News Credits: 1 · by **SKYWARPED_128** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:24 pm

Funny, I've always imagined Stascream's Pretender shell to look something like Quamzin from Macross, or should I say Khyron from Robotech?

Both are known for being backstabbers, and are sneaky and rebellious. Heck, even their voices sound similar.

News Credits: 2 · by **F Prime** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:26 pm

Bumblevivisector wrote:A tad off-topic, but I'm not the only one who assumed Starscream's Pretender Shell's head gave us insight as to what Cobra Commander looks like unmasked, am I?

I never thought of that...but the comics/cartoons did give us a glimpse of some of the "masked" characters unmasked.

I believe that in the first picture, Cobra Commander had fake glasses and mustache. The second is from the animated movie, which portrays him as a non-human Cobra-La scientist who is sprayed by a mutative plant that causes him to grow all kinds of eyes.

by **Hellscream85** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 1:41 am

cannonfodder4000 wrote:
Hellscream85 wrote:These seeker's are what Prime Starscream should have looked like instead of the piece of **** that he is

Yeah, he should have looked exactly like G1 Starscream, and totally not fit in with the art style of the show, brilliant suggestion.

what art style? Oh you mean crap, I see you're right having someone look good would make every other design look even worse than they already do, except wheeljack when he actually has his faceplate up. I'm surprised a design as decent as that made it into Prime.

News Credits: 1 · by **Starscream GaGa** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:24 am

Hellscream85 wrote:
cannonfodder4000 wrote:
Hellscream85 wrote:These seeker's are what Prime Starscream should have looked like instead of the piece of **** that he is

Yeah, he should have looked exactly like G1 Starscream, and totally not fit in with the art style of the show, brilliant suggestion.

what art style? Oh you mean crap, I see you're right having someone look good would make every other design look even worse than they already do, except wheeljack when he actually has his faceplate up. I'm surprised a design as decent as that made it into Prime.

Please, don't be all geewun. Trolling is wrong.