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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:49 am
by Cyber Bishop
Burn wrote:Holy forking shirtballs, WandaVision just gets better and better each week, and this week's ending ... THE MULTIVERSE IS HERE!


It is getting really good.. So many theories..

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:59 am
by AllNewSuperRobot
Let's be honest, look at the title for the next Dr. Strange film. Plus who is in the next Spider-Man film. This has been slow burning for a long time now. I like the symmetry that Wanda is the one to bring all this into play though.

More importantly though, in light of the reveal of episode 5...

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The marquee characters of Marvel are Finally coming to the MCU!

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:15 pm
by Cyber Bishop
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Let's be honest, look at the title for the next Dr. Strange film. Plus who is in the next Spider-Man film. This has been slow burning for a long time now. I like the symmetry that Wanda is the one to bring all this into play though.


As soon as they announced Wandavison they announced that it would lead directly into Multiverse of madness. There are forces controlling Wanda as well, Mephisto for one.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:20 pm
by AllNewSuperRobot
I am sceptical about Mephisto, being introduced here. Within the context of the established MCU, Dormammu would make more sense. Besides, much like Jean Grey's descent into Dark Phoenix. Wanda doesn't need to be "controlled". A little manipulation and she does the rest willingly.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:23 pm
by ZeroWolf
Given the TV angle, Mojo would make sense

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:26 pm
by AllNewSuperRobot
ZeroWolf wrote:Given the TV angle, Mojo would make sense


Apt and hilarious. A twist ending no one would see coming. But I doubt Mojo is going to debut in Live Action any time soon.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:47 pm
by ZeroWolf
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Given the TV angle, Mojo would make sense


Apt and hilarious. A twist ending no one would see coming. But I doubt Mojo is going to debut in Live Action any time soon.

True, given that Mojo would undermine any serious tone they want to build

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:49 pm
by AllNewSuperRobot
Yeah. In spite of the fact there is a lot of body horror involved in virtually every early Mojo story. The tone never truly darkens.

Plus, his overall design would be a bit too much, within the context of this show.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:53 pm
by ZeroWolf
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Yeah. In spite of the fact there is a lot of body horror involved in virtually every early Mojo story. The tone never truly darkens.

Plus, his overall design would be a bit too much, within the context of this show.

Yeah, its like everytime there's 'rumours' about M.O.D.O.K coming into the MCU. It's like, I'm curious to see how they'd do it, but know they never would as his design is too weird

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:58 pm
by AllNewSuperRobot
ZeroWolf wrote:Yeah, its like everytime there's 'rumours' about M.O.D.O.K coming into the MCU. It's like, I'm curious to see how they'd do it, but know they never would as his design is too weird


To be fair, at least Mojo has an interesting angle to play out. Via Mojoworld. MODOK is literally just a giant head. That's his whole gimmick.
In that respect, I wish they would work around the rights issues and start to show off some of the Hulk's roster. Ogress, Madman, Gargoyle etc If they want to start showing off the more larger than life humanoid characters in Marvel, Hulk is the best place to start.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:39 pm
by Rodimus Prime
I would like to see She-Hulk. But would she be done like Hulk was? Real actor for human form and CG for the She-Hulk?

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:01 pm
by Burn
Rodimus Prime wrote:I would like to see She-Hulk. But would she be done like Hulk was? Real actor for human form and CG for the She-Hulk?

She-Hulk is on the way to Disney+ starring Tatiana Maslany (Orphan Black). So I would expect it to be CG for her She-Hulk form.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:07 pm
by Cyber Bishop
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I am sceptical about Mephisto, being introduced here. Within the context of the established MCU, Dormammu would make more sense. Besides, much like Jean Grey's descent into Dark Phoenix. Wanda doesn't need to be "controlled". A little manipulation and she does the rest willingly.


A lot of others feel it is Mephisto, go read the comics mini series vision and the Scarlet witch to see exactly why this is the mindset of most.

Burn wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:I would like to see She-Hulk. But would she be done like Hulk was? Real actor for human form and CG for the She-Hulk?

She-Hulk is on the way to Disney+ starring Tatiana Maslany (Orphan Black). So I would expect it to be CG for her She-Hulk form.


Yup, can't wait to see her on the screen.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:57 pm
by AllNewSuperRobot
Cyber Bishop wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I am sceptical about Mephisto, being introduced here. Within the context of the established MCU, Dormammu would make more sense. Besides, much like Jean Grey's descent into Dark Phoenix. Wanda doesn't need to be "controlled". A little manipulation and she does the rest willingly.


A lot of others feel it is Mephisto, go read the comics mini series vision and the Scarlet witch to see exactly why this is the mindset of most.



I already read it years ago. It doesn't really matter. As the MCU doesn't generally do that, and with good reason. Look at Batman V Superman. The "dream" sequence that showed off the Omega Symbol of Darkseid. Now, without context, to the mainstream Movie going audience it was a meaningless visual. One that was never explained and therefore had no impact beyond fan service.

To date, the MCU have been good at working with what they've got. To use Mephisto here requires an origin and explanation to a new audience. If that were to happen, he would have at least been somewhat revealed by now. He is too much of a big deal to just be dropped in last minute and not be explained properly. Being a Devil and all that.

Whereas personally, I think Master Pandemonium makes a lot more sense. Plus he is lowkey enough that he can just be slipped right into the story. Alongside "Agnes".

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:12 pm
by Rodimus Prime
Burn wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:I would like to see She-Hulk. But would she be done like Hulk was? Real actor for human form and CG for the She-Hulk?

She-Hulk is on the way to Disney+ starring Tatiana Maslany (Orphan Black). So I would expect it to be CG for her She-Hulk form.
I did not know this. I will be looking forward to it eagerly.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:47 am
by AllNewSuperRobot
It will be interesting to see where they go with She-Hulk. Will they play it straight? or portray her in her original solo series guise as the first 4th wall breaking character?

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:31 am
by Burn
So rumour has it Jennifer Lawrence is on her way to Australia to start filming Fantastic Four.

Rumour only.

If true, that **** sucks. There was a time I didn't mind her as an actress, but over the years I've soured on her and consider her over-rated. Plus I didn't like her as Mystique.

Plenty of other actresses they could have gone with.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:54 am
by AllNewSuperRobot
Yeah, that's.. disappointing. She was awful as Mystique.

I know from general internet chatter that John Krasinski is the popular choice for Mr Fantastic. Hopefully fifth time is the charm for the FF though and Marvel Studios can get at least one good film out of them.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:39 am
by ZeroWolf
I really hope thats not true, Jessica Alba was a better Sue Storm...and she wasn't what I'd called a good representation of Sue. Didn't mind the actor they had as Reed Richards in the old Fox films

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:02 am
by Dead Metal
Oh god I hope she's not Sue, she sucked as Mystique and didn't really sell me too much on her role in the Panem movies.

And seriously, WandaVision just sucks you in every episode. Maybe it's partially because th only real exposure I had to Wanda was House of M and other Spider-Man relevant appearances, but I love how the show surprises me every time. I have absolutely no idea what could happen next, because every episode manages to flip my expectations.

I got super exited by this week's commercial, and the ending confrontation because all I could think of was Nexus of All Realities and Man-Thing. Seriously, I wanted Man-Thing in the MCU since they teased him in Agent's of SHIELD, which I think is non-canon since the movies never acknowledge it. But then I went to reddit to bask in the glory of finally being able to predict something without needing hints or having stuff pointed out by others who read her comics just to learn that it's the wrong Nexus.

Also, if the book we see is actually the Darkhold, that kinda proves that AOS is non canon, since it looks different from what it looked like there.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:52 am
by ZeroWolf
I suspect it is different as back then the TV side and movies were run by different units. Though were they to do Agents of Shield now, it'd be a much different story.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:58 am
by AllNewSuperRobot
From what I recall AoS was originally supposed to be part of the film canon. Then it was decided it wasn't. For example, Agent Coulson has been dead since Avengers Assemble, in the films. This hasn't been corrected outside of the show. The Inhumans too, have been quietly swept under the rug. Now that The Eternals and X-Men are on their way. I doubt they will ever resurface. Perhaps beyond the rumoured Ms. Marvel Show/Film.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:01 am
by ZeroWolf
Given that Ms. Mavel us supposed to be appearing in Captain Marvel 2, I do wonder if they'll be going a different route with her origin. I can definitely see Cap Marvel 2 dropping before her show hits

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:34 am
by Dead Metal
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:From what I recall AoS was originally supposed to be part of the film canon. Then it was decided it wasn't. For example, Agent Coulson has been dead since Avengers Assemble, in the films. This hasn't been corrected outside of the show. The Inhumans too, have been quietly swept under the rug. Now that The Eternals and X-Men are on their way. I doubt they will ever resurface. Perhaps beyond the rumoured Ms. Marvel Show/Film.

Yeah, I remember. The show was hyped up as being set in the MCU and being an important part of it, it was even supposed to bridge the gap between movies and introduce a brand new Superhero into the MCU (Quake) as well as Supervillains. But the movies never acknowledged the show, the show kept bending over backwards to fit the MCU, but the movies never even hinted at it.
Which is a bit of a shame, the Ghost Rider it had was so far the best non comic version of the character, despite not being based on a "real" Ghost Rider. Seriously, the guy who played that version put everything else to shame, be it live action Ghost Riders, or even his own cast members. Best part of the whole show.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:51 am
by AllNewSuperRobot
I really hope Ghost Rider is given a chance someday. Forget Johnny Blaze and the "new" Ghost Rider (whose name escapes me). That was loosely adapted for AoS. Go all in on Danny Ketch with a clean slate. He was essentially the "Wally West" of Ghost Rider anyway IE the one that all the cool powers and story moments came from.