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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:08 pm
by Powersurge
Well i'm new to the whole Kamen Rider thing, used to watch Masked rider years ago though, so what do you guys suggest for a kamen n00b to watch?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:25 pm
by Cybertron Optimus
I saw some Kamen Rider, really only action clips, but Kabuto is really cool.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:01 pm
by KingMob
Ta for giving us the thread back.

I'm needing to do a Kamen Rider marathon. There's three eps of Den_0 out so far, right?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:02 pm
by Air Commander Starscream
Powersurge wrote:Well i'm new to the whole Kamen Rider thing, used to watch Masked rider years ago though, so what do you guys suggest for a kamen n00b to watch?


Kamen Rider Blade is a pretty good series to get started off in, it has a pretty solid story line. Or Iwould go with Kabuto.

Kamen Rider Faiz 555 can be kind of confusing plus the end is a slight downer or so I have heard. I am only on episode 5 of that and I really enjoy it so far.

Kamen Rider Ryuki is kind of tournament based and had some pretty cool characters, it's also quite bloody as many of the Riders get killed off and their cards taken.

Kamen Rider Kabuto however is my favorite series (hence The Bee being in my sig). The early episodes are kind of slow and predictable, but once you get into the teens and Drake, Sawsord and Gatack start to show up the series really picks up and gets quite hard to stop watching.

I've watched the first 2 episodes of Hibiki and I have decided to put that off for now. I don't know much about Agito or Kuuga and I need to DL the new Den-O episodes.

I also like to collect the Souchaku Henshin of Kamen Rider figures. SO far I have:

Kamen Rider Kabuto: Kabuto, The Bee, Drake, Gatack, Sawsword

Kamen Rider Faiz 555: Orga, Faiz, Faiz BLaster

Kamen Rider Ryuki: Monster set #3 and 5. Ouja, Gai, Zolda, Odin x2, Verde, Ryuga and Femme

Kamen Rider Hibiki: Zanki and Ibuki

Space Sherif Sharivan and Kamen Rider Black RX.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:19 pm
by Evil Phil
Air Commander Starscream wrote:
Powersurge wrote:Well i'm new to the whole Kamen Rider thing, used to watch Masked rider years ago though, so what do you guys suggest for a kamen n00b to watch?


Kamen Rider Blade is a pretty good series to get started off in, it has a pretty solid story line. Or Iwould go with Kabuto.

Kamen Rider Faiz 555 can be kind of confusing plus the end is a slight downer or so I have heard. I am only on episode 5 of that and I really enjoy it so far.

Kamen Rider Ryuki is kind of tournament based and had some pretty cool characters, it's also quite bloody as many of the Riders get killed off and their cards taken.

Kamen Rider Kabuto however is my favorite series (hence The Bee being in my sig). The early episodes are kind of slow and predictable, but once you get into the teens and Drake, Sawsord and Gatack start to show up the series really picks up and gets quite hard to stop watching.

I've watched the first 2 episodes of Hibiki and I have decided to put that off for now. I don't know much about Agito or Kuuga and I need to DL the new Den-O episodes.

I also like to collect the Souchaku Henshin of Kamen Rider figures. SO far I have:

Kamen Rider Kabuto: Kabuto, The Bee, Drake, Gatack, Sawsword

Kamen Rider Faiz 555: Orga, Faiz, Faiz BLaster

Kamen Rider Ryuki: Monster set #3 and 5. Ouja, Gai, Zolda, Odin x2, Verde, Ryuga and Femme

Kamen Rider Hibiki: Zanki and Ibuki

Space Sherif Sharivan and Kamen Rider Black RX.


Wasn't there another one called Kamen Rider Agito or something? I rember reading a bit about it and liking the rider design.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:29 pm
by Air Commander Starscream
Here's a nice reference to all of the series that have come out. The first batch is the original old school jap stuff. They kind of had a falling out after they tried to do a sequel to Kamen Rider Black. Black had been done so well and when they did Kamen Rider RX they kind of goofed it up and made it almost retarded like. If I recall correctly it got cancled or ended early. Then they really only did a few movies until 2000 when Kuuga came out and we have had a new series every year since.

Oh also when we got the show here in the US "Masked Rider" it was footage from Kamen Rider RX. There is also a preview of Kamen Rider Knight which would be the US version of Ryuki, I got to see the preview of it but I don't know if anybody is actually going to try and do it or not.

Kamen Rider (I & II)
1971-73

Kamen Rider V3
1973-74

Kamen Rider X
1974

Kamen Rider Amazon
1974-75

Kamen Rider Stronger
1975-76

Sky Rider
1979-80

Kamen Rider Super-1
1980-81

Kamen Rider ZX
1984 (movie)

Kamen Rider Black
1987-88

Kamen Rider RX
1988-89

Kamen Rider Shin
1992 (movie)

Kamen Rider ZO
1993 (movie)

Kamen Rider J
1994 (movie)

Kamen Rider The First
2005 (movie)



Modern Series



Kamen Rider Kuuga
2000-01

Kamen Rider Agito
2001-02

Kamen Rider Ryuki
2002-03

Kamen Rider Faiz
2003-04

Kamen Rider Blade
2004-05

Kamen Rider Hibiki
2005-06

Kamen Rider Kabuto
2006-07

Kamen Rider Den-o
2007-current

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:08 pm
by Powersurge
Well i've just started to watch Black, and kabuto, both look cool, though does each series run into each other, or is it like sentai where each series is separate?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:49 pm
by Air Commander Starscream
Powersurge wrote:Well i've just started to watch Black, and kabuto, both look cool, though does each series run into each other, or is it like sentai where each series is separate?


Each series is pretty much different. Though in the beginng all of the 1970 and early 80's shows did corespond with each other. All of the modern series (2000 onward) are all their own unique universe and have nothing to do with each other. And every modern show gets one movie that usually has nothing to do with the series is alternate relaity. But in the case with The Kamen Rider Kabuto movie: God Speed Love, it actualy does corespond with the series even though they are alternate realities, the events of God Speed Love effect the Kabuto series.

And you might have already known this but Kamen RIder is also made by Sentai.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:40 pm
by Chosen
Σ Prime wrote:Wasn't there another one called Kamen Rider Agito or something? I rember reading a bit about it and liking the rider design.


Some AGITΩ for you. Don't know much about it myself, the earlier Heisei KR shows don't seem to garner as much attention as stuff like 555 or Blade do.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:44 pm
by Air Commander Starscream
Kamen Rider Chosen wrote:
Σ Prime wrote:Wasn't there another one called Kamen Rider Agito or something? I rember reading a bit about it and liking the rider design.


Some AGITΩ for you. Don't know much about it myself, the earlier Heisei KR shows don't seem to garner as much attention as stuff like 555 or Blade do.


Yea I no little to nothing about Agito or Kuuga, ive just been more interested in the newer series.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:46 pm
by Solidus
Kamen Rider is not "made by Sentai". They are made by the same production company (Toei), but that doesn't mean much as they have nothing in common other than costumed people. It's marketed towards an older audience than Sentai is. Sentai and Kamen Rider are two seperate franchises.

Start with either Kabuto or Faiz (aka 555). Faiz is not confusing, I don't know why ACSS said that. Kabuto is more recent, so you may find the effects/costumes more appealing. Den-O just started (on episode 3) but it's absolutely fantastic so far and worth following as they are released (roughly weekly)

Blade is great, but it is very confusing for a few episodes until pieces start clicking into place. I'd suggest Blade as a good 2nd series to watch after you're familiar with the ideas common to Kamen Rider. It is my favorite out of them all, and I have seen just about everything there is to see. Just don't start with it or you'll be like "WTF". :D

ACSS isn't 100% accurate in some of that continuity stuff (Agito is a loose sequel to Kuuga, etc), but it's close enough. Since you won't really be able to watch any of it anyways due to no translation, to go into detail would be overkill.

Since Black is fansubbed and you're watching it, I will say that it is NOT tied into the original KR series. It's sequel, Black RX, was not intended to either other than be a sequel to Black. However, it did do so bad ratings-wise that as an attempt to boost popularity they had the old KR's show up for no reason to help him in a couple episodes. Thus it "kind of" makes Black and RX in the same continuity as the original Riders, but it's better off not thinking of it that way.

There's some discussion threads on the Tavern Table that you may find useful, there's direct download links to Den-O's episodes that I update.

High Command wrote:Someone who I hope will go by the name "Kamen Rider Kamen Rider Solidius", when he shows up.
Name's too long I'm afraid. :( How about an abbreviation?

Air Commander Starscream wrote:The first batch is the original old school jap stuff.
"Jap" isn't a socially acceptable way to abbreviate "Japanese", Mr. Moderator. :P That term went out with WWII and you may offend somebody. ;)

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:01 am
by Chosen
Solidus pulled a Worm? On me? Damn, he's good.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:02 am
by Solidus
Kamen Rider Chosen wrote:Solidus pulled a Worm? On me? Damn, he's good.
ORE SANJOU?!
(I appear)

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:29 am
by Shin Getter Robo
Kamen Rider KR Solidus wrote:Kamen Rider is not "made by Sentai". They are made by the same production company (Toei), but that doesn't mean much as they have nothing in common other than costumed people. It's marketed towards an older audience than Sentai is. Sentai and Kamen Rider are two seperate franchises.


RIDER PWNING

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:52 am
by Chosen
Kamen Rider Harry Munk wrote:
Kamen Rider KR Solidus wrote:Kamen Rider is not "made by Sentai". They are made by the same production company (Toei), but that doesn't mean much as they have nothing in common other than costumed people. It's marketed towards an older audience than Sentai is. Sentai and Kamen Rider are two seperate franchises.


RIDER PWNING


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This never gets old.

Somebody needs to find a way to replicate the Zecter voice and have it describe everything a person does. Probably too time-consuming or expensive to try, but worth it alone to have "RIDER SH**TING" shouted from the bathroom.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:01 am
by Powersurge
Kamen Rider KR Solidus wrote:Kamen Rider is not "made by Sentai". They are made by the same production company (Toei), but that doesn't mean much as they have nothing in common other than costumed people. It's marketed towards an older audience than Sentai is. Sentai and Kamen Rider are two seperate franchises.

Start with either Kabuto or Faiz (aka 555). Faiz is not confusing, I don't know why ACSS said that. Kabuto is more recent, so you may find the effects/costumes more appealing. Den-O just started (on episode 3) but it's absolutely fantastic so far and worth following as they are released (roughly weekly)

Blade is great, but it is very confusing for a few episodes until pieces start clicking into place. I'd suggest Blade as a good 2nd series to watch after you're familiar with the ideas common to Kamen Rider. It is my favorite out of them all, and I have seen just about everything there is to see. Just don't start with it or you'll be like "WTF". :D

ACSS isn't 100% accurate in some of that continuity stuff (Agito is a loose sequel to Kuuga, etc), but it's close enough. Since you won't really be able to watch any of it anyways due to no translation, to go into detail would be overkill.

Since Black is fansubbed and you're watching it, I will say that it is NOT tied into the original KR series. It's sequel, Black RX, was not intended to either other than be a sequel to Black. However, it did do so bad ratings-wise that as an attempt to boost popularity they had the old KR's show up for no reason to help him in a couple episodes. Thus it "kind of" makes Black and RX in the same continuity as the original Riders, but it's better off not thinking of it that way.

There's some discussion threads on the Tavern Table that you may find useful, there's direct download links to Den-O's episodes that I update.

Cool thanks for the help, I might leave black for a while and just start on Kubuto (I'm up to ep 4 so far, bloody great).

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:14 am
by Solidus
Powersurge wrote:Cool thanks for the help, I might leave black for a while and just start on Kubuto (I'm up to ep 4 so far, bloody great).
No problem. I'm a huge fan and always willing to help interested people learning more.

Chosen wrote:Somebody needs to find a way to replicate the Zecter voice and have it describe everything a person does. Probably too time-consuming or expensive to try, but worth it alone to have "RIDER SH**TING" shouted from the bathroom.
Or yelling RIDER SHOOTING before a key moment of intimacy? I know this chick that probably wouldn't find wearing a henshin device in the sack to be a turn-off... hrm...
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Edit: Oh and Powersurge, please adjust your name apporpriately. I'm kind of offering this advice on "good faith" that you'll follow Shin's username guidelines, don't dissapoint. TY.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:02 am
by Powersurge
Kamen Rider KR Solidus wrote:Oh and Powersurge, please adjust your name apporpriately. I'm kind of offering this advice on "good faith" that you'll follow Shin's username guidelines, don't dissapoint. TY.

Well I kinda figured that was getting old, but what the hey, I went through a "Dai Bouken Powersurge" phase for a while, so why not.