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I woke up this morning and discovered i'd fallen out of love with Star Trek this is a shame.

RAR wrote:I woke up this morning and discovered i'd fallen out of love with Star Trek this is a shame.

Have you told her? Don't let her take the kids, you have rights now.

Stuartmaximus wrote:Do read my statements properly....will you

i did,if anything you need to stay on topic when replying to post made by others as it was you that mixxed things up here


Rodimus Prime wrote:
Which Federation starship is the most powerful in terms of offense and defense in all of the TV series and movies?


I replied...
star trek voyager; uss prometheus could separate into 3 fighting ships

star trek ds9; uss defiant designed to combat the borg

st into darkness; USS Vengeance designed by khan


you then said...Actually it probably was Voyager with the futuristic ablative hull armor(Endgame)

i then said to you....
you might have a point.....
if the tech in question continued to function or even exists after the events of the episode

remember, old janeway faded away when things were done, so should the tech she brought with her


you followed that with.....Actually ablative hull armor did still exist! coz the Prometheus used it

so why would you be referring to STANDARD ablative hull armour when the topic and post you were replying to was clearly about the the futuristic ablative hull armor seen in the voyager episode Endgame?

why would you say that the STANDARD ablative hull armour "still exsisted" when no-one suggested it didnt?

on another note....and for those who may follow the fan series Star Trek Continues

a new episode is now up....on youtube

cool thanks

Someone wanna promote Sto to chief Oracle or Curator of anything Star Trek
coz he seems to only wake from his slumber to answer any questions or queries posted on this page! and in doing so....finding fault within the question/query ect

mind you.....to his defence....he seems to be the ONLY one that's answering questions/queries on here of late.

Stuartmaximus wrote:Someone wanna promote Sto to chief Oracle or Curator of anything Star Trek
coz he seems to only wake from his slumber to answer any questions or queries posted on this page! and in doing so....finding fault within the question/query ect

mind you.....to his defence....he seems to be the ONLY one that's answering questions/queries on here of late.

if only it was about slumber

I just tripped over an Australian bloke on The Internet called "Mystic Spenny"

Anyone here heard of him? - he's got some strange views about the value of his own work - describing his drawings as everything positive under the sun and saying his space ship designs are better than anything ever done for Star Trek officially.

RAR wrote:I just tripped over an Australian bloke on The Internet called "Mystic Spenny"

Anyone here heard of him? - he's got some strange views about the value of his own work - describing his drawings as everything positive under the sun and saying his space ship designs are better than anything ever done for Star Trek officially.

This dude sounds like a hoot, got a link to one of his videos?

Here you go.

RAR wrote:Here you go.

Wow, this dude's full of himself. He's got some skills to be sure, but he's what happens when one becomes too engrossed in his work to maintain any sort of objectiveness.

Thought I'd Necro this poor ol' thread: with news that Brian Fuller has stopped being Star Trek Discovery's show runner.

Comments on a Novel :
A Pocket Full of Lies (Star Trek: Voyager)
by Kirsten Beyer

https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/651520242161295378

I watched an episode with my Aunt the other day. She came to visit and she likes old shows so we settled on Star Trek. I honestly hadn't seen anything other than the episode with the tribbles that my ex gf showed me.

It was a little weird but I did like it. There is a good emphasis on storytelling and science. The episode I was was had these telepathic people that dressed in white. They had a name but I can't pronounce it enough to spell it. They did some weird things with altering people's memories which was pretty creepy.

I'd be down to watch more. (Partially because I want to see Jeffery Combs since he voices Ratchet haha)

I've been slogging through DS9 on Netflix.

Some utterly amazing episodes, surrounded by crappy ones.

Ironhidensh wrote:I've been slogging through DS9 on Netflix.

Some utterly amazing episodes, surrounded by crappy ones.

IMO the ratio gets much better once Sisko shaves his head

Ironhidensh wrote:I've been slogging through DS9 on Netflix.

Some utterly amazing episodes, surrounded by crappy ones.

I remember watching the first 5 minutes of the first episode once...

How many of you here have seen the documentary The Captains? Pretty good, even if a bit light.

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:Do read my statements properly....will you

i did,if anything you need to stay on topic when replying to post made by others as it was you that mixxed things up here


Rodimus Prime wrote:
Which Federation starship is the most powerful in terms of offense and defense in all of the TV series and movies?


I replied...
star trek voyager; uss prometheus could separate into 3 fighting ships

star trek ds9; uss defiant designed to combat the borg

st into darkness; USS Vengeance designed by khan


you then said...Actually it probably was Voyager with the futuristic ablative hull armor(Endgame)

i then said to you....
you might have a point.....
if the tech in question continued to function or even exists after the events of the episode

remember, old janeway faded away when things were done, so should the tech she brought with her


you followed that with.....Actually ablative hull armor did still exist! coz the Prometheus used it

so why would you be referring to STANDARD ablative hull armour when the topic and post you were replying to was clearly about the the futuristic ablative hull armor seen in the voyager episode Endgame?

why would you say that the STANDARD

I am not sure what the argument was about, but I did want to bring out a couple things. One- I'm pretty sure Defiant's hull was aligned with ablative armor, as it was their only defense at one point when they were attacked by Jem'Hadar warships.

Two- It's never specifically stated that the tech goes out of existence. Admiral Janeway I remember was assimilated by the Borg, but I don't remember her "fading out of existence". Unless I missed something with her being blown up or some Trek-nobabble (it's been awhile since I've seen Endgame). I doubt it would, because it would create a grandfather paradox, but... that would make it supremely complicated. I would like to point out in the non-canon material (the book Star Trek: Voyager Homecoming), the future tech along with the Borg tech was too be ripped out of the ship for analysis.

Perhaps this might be a useful link :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ablative_armor

RAR wrote:Perhaps this might be a useful link :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ablative_armor

Finished DS9, now watching through Enterprise.

I don't care what people say. I really like this show.

Ablative armour that the defiant and Promethius used is different to what Voyager got from the future. Their armour is more like thick hull plating that gradually gets worn down from impacts, designed to be broken down without having the actual hull integrity being compromised. But once it's been worn out and gone, it's direct hits to the hull and then the ships get into trouble.



And Future Janeway never faded away. She was assimilated by the Borg, but then her virus screwed up the collective which meant she and most drones collapsed and died (it was implied). To my memory, Star Trek has never done the whole 'time travellers fade away when the timeline changed'. They've either died, gone back to the future or remained in the present.


Except for that one episode in TNG season 1 or 2, where we got a second Picard from the wormhole and the exploded Enterprise. He vanished when they broke free from the wormhole. But apparantly that was meant to be a test by Q (never stated on screen, but was author intent) so..... normal rules can't be reliably used.

Ironhidensh wrote:

RAR wrote:Perhaps this might be a useful link :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ablative_armor

now watching through Enterprise.

I don't care what people say. I really like this show.

Regenerations episode is good

Ironhidensh wrote:now watching through Enterprise.

Same. Not sure if I watched it properly the first time it aired (before the days of downloading) so it's a case of remembering and also not-remembering.

A situation that extra hull armour came in handy :

A new 3rd short form format for Trekyards videos :



Also CBS has concluded it's legal session with Axanar it seems.

Point of discussion :

#StarTrek

Just for a laugh I decided to do a Youtube search for opinion videos about Politics in Star Trek and it seems some people thin the Federations is :
1) A post feminist civilisation (especially in TNG)
2) Communist (especially in TNG & Enterprise)
3) Fascist (especially in the JJ Movies & DS9)
4) Libertarian (especially in TOS)
5) Some other kind of dictatorship or heavily controlled society.

I used to think what would happen if someone refused to engage with the Civilisation - I think they'd get grabbed and shipped to New Zealand - this actually happened to Bones he was called back to the Enterprise using a Military emergency recall protocol (yes I know that happens now too).

Let alone I wonder what would happen in the case of political decent - for example in this civilisation in TNG the crew repeatedly interfered with random Human planets who were not federation members simply by use of force. such as dumping the space Irish on the Clones for example and just leaving. yet other times in Ds9 they'd refuse to take responsibility for their citizens abandoning them to the tender mercies of the Cardasians.

Sisko also blew up a whole biosphere and suffered no consequences to his career at all - not even a reprimand on his record - or some word to say he'd never make Admiral for doing that. If you do something that is so crazy even Worf is telling you not to do it nearly punches you in the face for doing it and only gets bullied down by the social pressure you are doing something wrong.

There is some interesting grey areas though like do nation states still exist on Earth they seem to in DS9 and TNG and yet Enterprise implies otherwise.

Also O'Brien is an interesting guy to watch too in how the command structure treats him as an enlisted Man - sometimes it's implied he can just walk off other times not.

There is certainly a very strong argument in favour of the JJ movies taking place in a Starship Troopers like Military dictatorship. it is just a matter of opinion which side of the horseshoe it's one is all with some people. At least Andromeda tried to explore these questions - Star Trek didn't really bother. it's part of a very long list of things we don't know about the Universe that the stories take place in as they are seen from a military "Starfleet" perspective. Which is odd when you consider we know more about the politics of the Stargate Universe in all respects and that is way more militaristic in tone.

[ I would in general trust Sg1 more than the Enterprise Crew though they are a bit less shifty and amoral in their actions across their respective franchises overall ]

Some of the videos are linked on my minds blog but can be found easily on Youtube

https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/675563283490545676

Discuss if you wanna.