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interpretation - (anti-circumcision propaganda and other lechery)

PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:23 pm
by Mudflap Prime

PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:31 pm
by Nightracer GT
Those are all over ytmnd. The best one is the Jean Luc Picard one.


And circumscision is wrong.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:03 am
by D-340
Dark Zarak wrote:

And circumscision is wrong.


How so? Are you speaking from a health or a religous stand point? :???:

PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:05 am
by DesalationReborn
D-340 wrote:
Dark Zarak wrote:

And circumscision is wrong.


How so? Are you speaking from a health or a religous stand point? :???:


Both, I'd assume, considering most are done against the person's will.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:23 am
by Dead Metal
To quote Scrooge: WTF?!

What the hell is that about I know the melody is Ducktales but what does that stupid text meen?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:15 pm
by TheMuffin
It's the Finnish version of the duck tales theme. And this is the persons interpretation of what the lyrics sound like to your ears.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:03 pm
by Nightracer GT
DesalationReborn wrote:
D-340 wrote:
Dark Zarak wrote:

And circumscision is wrong.


How so? Are you speaking from a health or a religous stand point? :???:


Both, I'd assume, considering most are done against the person's will.


Yep. It's abusive and painful to helpless newborn babies. You might be tempted to say "aww boo friggin' hoo", but I am actually quite serious.

Religious practices that do it are inhumane. Yes, I'm thinking of a certain 3,000 year old people who I have no tangible grudges with. They should not do it. Period.

Not to mention that an uncircumsized erection is actually bigger around than a cut erection. Three guesses to what that means and the first two don't count.


Now, I understand the health benefits of being cut, and the awkwardness that can ensue in the locker room when your johnson looks different, but I say let a guy make the decision himself to have it done if he really wants to. I'm betting he doesn't.

Or at least knock the baby out first. I can't imagine it would be that hard to do.

If I ever have a son, he will not be cut.

Watch the Circumsicion episode of Penn & Teller Bullshit. I double dare you watch the whole thing through without turning away. If you can do that, and still say the practice is right, you must be made of steel. If you turn away in shock, disgust, or outright horror, and still say the practice is right, there is something wrong with you.


And yes, I'm cut, hence my lifelong phobia of having something delicate like skin stuck between a cold metal sheet and a pizza cutter.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:21 am
by Dead Metal
TheMuffin wrote:It's the Finnish version of the duck tales theme. And this is the persons interpretation of what the lyrics sound like to your ears.


Ah ok thanks.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:59 am
by D-340
Dark Zarak wrote:
DesalationReborn wrote:
D-340 wrote:
Dark Zarak wrote:

And circumscision is wrong.


How so? Are you speaking from a health or a religous stand point? :???:


Both, I'd assume, considering most are done against the person's will.


Yep. It's abusive and painful to helpless newborn babies. You might be tempted to say "aww boo friggin' hoo", but I am actually quite serious.

Religious practices that do it are inhumane. Yes, I'm thinking of a certain 3,000 year old people who I have no tangible grudges with. They should not do it. Period.

Not to mention that an uncircumsized erection is actually bigger around than a cut erection. Three guesses to what that means and the first two don't count.


Now, I understand the health benefits of being cut, and the awkwardness that can ensue in the locker room when your johnson looks different, but I say let a guy make the decision himself to have it done if he really wants to. I'm betting he doesn't.

Or at least knock the baby out first. I can't imagine it would be that hard to do.

If I ever have a son, he will not be cut.

Watch the Circumsicion episode of Penn & Teller Bullshit. I double dare you watch the whole thing through without turning away. If you can do that, and still say the practice is right, you must be made of steel. If you turn away in shock, disgust, or outright horror, and still say the practice is right, there is something wrong with you.


And yes, I'm cut, hence my lifelong phobia of having something delicate like skin stuck between a cold metal sheet and a pizza cutter.


They told me they will sedate my son for his. The only reason why my wife and I opted for was the health reason. For newborns, it's difficult to clean(trust me on this), and we'd rather not deal with the risk. I don't like the idea of it myself, but when it comes to my son's health, I would do anything to keep him from getting sick.

As far as the religous aspect, I could care less, as I don't practice any one religon.

I do understand you point of view, and I do cringe when I think about it. But after hearing of the health risks(infections and such), and being told that they will be sedating my son, I'm a little more at ease with it.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:37 am
by Dr. Caelus
D-340 wrote:They told me they will sedate my son for his. The only reason why my wife and I opted for was the health reason. For newborns, it's difficult to clean(trust me on this), and we'd rather not deal with the risk. I don't like the idea of it myself, but when it comes to my son's health, I would do anything to keep him from getting sick.

As far as the religous aspect, I could care less, as I don't practice any one religon.

I do understand you point of view, and I do cringe when I think about it. But after hearing of the health risks(infections and such), and being told that they will be sedating my son, I'm a little more at ease with it.


Da. It's painful to watch a baby get shots (or worse sometimes, surgery), but the health benefits justify it.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:35 am
by Sharpwing
Caelus wrote:
D-340 wrote:They told me they will sedate my son for his. The only reason why my wife and I opted for was the health reason. For newborns, it's difficult to clean(trust me on this), and we'd rather not deal with the risk. I don't like the idea of it myself, but when it comes to my son's health, I would do anything to keep him from getting sick.

As far as the religous aspect, I could care less, as I don't practice any one religon.

I do understand you point of view, and I do cringe when I think about it. But after hearing of the health risks(infections and such), and being told that they will be sedating my son, I'm a little more at ease with it.


Da. It's painful to watch a baby get shots (or worse sometimes, surgery), but the health benefits justify it.


Health benefits? Hardly...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcisi ... al_aspects

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:51 am
by Subsonika
I can honestly say that i have never heard of anyone getting an infected foreskin. Including myself.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:35 pm
by Dr. Caelus
Sharpwing wrote:
Caelus wrote:
D-340 wrote:They told me they will sedate my son for his. The only reason why my wife and I opted for was the health reason. For newborns, it's difficult to clean(trust me on this), and we'd rather not deal with the risk. I don't like the idea of it myself, but when it comes to my son's health, I would do anything to keep him from getting sick.

As far as the religous aspect, I could care less, as I don't practice any one religon.

I do understand you point of view, and I do cringe when I think about it. But after hearing of the health risks(infections and such), and being told that they will be sedating my son, I'm a little more at ease with it.


Da. It's painful to watch a baby get shots (or worse sometimes, surgery), but the health benefits justify it.


Health benefits? Hardly...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcisi ... al_aspects


That article seems to mostly say:

1) British doctors are about evenly divided on the issue.

2) Complications can arise when performed by incompetent personnel.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:26 pm
by Nightracer GT
D-340 wrote:They told me they will sedate my son for his. The only reason why my wife and I opted for was the health reason. For newborns, it's difficult to clean(trust me on this), and we'd rather not deal with the risk. I don't like the idea of it myself, but when it comes to my son's health, I would do anything to keep him from getting sick.


That sounds good then. My only concern would be after he wakes up.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:43 pm
by D-340
Caelus wrote:
Da. It's painful to watch a baby get shots (or worse sometimes, surgery), but the health benefits justify it.


Yes, it is. His first round of inoculations drove me up a wall. I wanted to punch the doctor. I'm ok with him cryin' when he gets hungry, but when he's screamin' cuz he's getting poked and prodded, yeah I wanna hurt someone.

Dark Zarak wrote:That sounds good then. My only concern would be after he wakes up.


Same here. It was definatly a tough decision, but after everything had been explained to me, like I said, I'm a bit more at ease. Do I like it, no not really. But I'm new at this, so I wanna make sure my boy stays as healthy as humanly possible.