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Captain America RETURNS!!!.....With a gun?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:09 pm
by TheMuffin
Heh. Yeah this is different.

I'm Captain America and I shoot stuff!

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:17 pm
by Liege Evilmus
I can't believe he came back :shock:

That type of thing never happens in comics :???:

He looks like a Cap/Surfer/Punisher hybrid, which makes be wonder, wheres the web shooter and a 3 clawed hand :???:

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:27 pm
by Cyber-Kun
I'll be so pissed if its Bucky as Cap. Hell, I was pissed that Bucky was brought back from the grave, period.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:38 pm
by Dr. Caelus
Cyber-Kun wrote:I'll be so pissed if its Bucky as Cap. Hell, I was pissed that Bucky was brought back from the grave, period.


9:1 it will be.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:39 pm
by Knight Hawk
Is it just me or is that outfit the ugliest thing you've ever seen ?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:43 pm
by The Happy Locust
Knight Hawk wrote:Is it just me or is that outfit the ugliest thing you've ever seen ?


It's inspired, but half-assed. Even Alex Ross's art abilities have trouble with the look.

Wasn't there a rumor a while back that the Punisher would be taking up the Captain America Mantle? It seemed that way to me during the Civil War storyline as Punisher wouldn't even put up a fight against one of his icons. If so, that might explain the gun.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:39 pm
by Burn
Last month's War Journal Castle stated he could never live up to the title of Captain America. He had Cap's mask and returned it to Bucky.

As for who the new Cap is, i'm guessing that soldier that's having visions of Cap. Currently being told in a mini-series, the name of which currently escapes me. :MAD:

-edit-

Captain America : The Chosen.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:58 pm
by i_amtrunks
So the Cap gets a shiny new metallic suit? Thats what the art is telling me...

I hope this gets back-lashed so hard that Alex Ross's mother can feel it.

I really dislike this look, and the gun for Cap, and I'm not even a big fan of the series.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:03 pm
by The Happy Locust
Burn wrote:Last month's War Journal Castle stated he could never live up to the title of Captain America. He had Cap's mask and returned it to Bucky.



In hindsight, I realized my idea has actually been done before. There was a What If ep where Frank Castle was given the Captaim America Mantle after Steve Rogers became Nomad.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:17 pm
by Dr. Caelus
Knight Hawk wrote:Is it just me or is that outfit the ugliest thing you've ever seen ?


It looks better in some pictures than others, especially when the metallic aspect isn't so obvious.

Either way, Ultimate Captain America FTW. For one thing he doesn't have the dopey wings on his head.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:26 pm
by Tigertrack
Didn't cap use a gun when he was fighting Nazis???

The costume is okay. I think Alex Ross does a fantastic job painting anything. His designs are usually top notch too! :-?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:30 pm
by .op.
Just looking at some of the pictures it looks like Bucky/Wintersoldier type of thing. Honestly I think it is what they are planning no matter if we like it or not.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:32 pm
by Deadpool.
Why is it that the costume reminds me of the design Ross did for the Spidey movies...


http://www.alexrossart.com/artforsale.asp?sc=ARSP1

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:35 pm
by Cowboy Bebop
The Happy Locust wrote:
Burn wrote:Last month's War Journal Castle stated he could never live up to the title of Captain America. He had Cap's mask and returned it to Bucky.



In hindsight, I realized my idea has actually been done before. There was a What If ep where Frank Castle was given the Captaim America Mantle after Steve Rogers became Nomad.


I have one where Punisher becomes attached to the Venom symbiote, really interesting.

I'm going to be a rebel here and say that I like it. If the costume wasn't so plain on the lower half it'd be good but its just plain black.

As far as the gun, its the modern age, everyone has a gun. So why wouldn't the symbol of American patriotism not have a gun? If he didn't I'd think communism.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:55 am
by Bumblebee-otch
Caelus wrote:
Knight Hawk wrote:Is it just me or is that outfit the ugliest thing you've ever seen ?


It looks better in some pictures than others, especially when the metallic aspect isn't so obvious.

Either way, Ultimate Captain America FTW. For one thing he doesn't have the dopey wings on his head.


no joke! cut off a dudes hands, and stabbed him in the chest with his own lightsaber!!

that sure as hell better not be steve rogers. its probably bucky, with the metallic similar to his arm and the black that is oh-so fashionable for anti-heroes.

and the gun- how is he supposed to reload when he is holding the shield???

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:54 am
by Ram
Knight Hawk wrote:Is it just me or is that outfit the ugliest thing you've ever seen ?


I think your forgetting the Iron Spidey costume

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:57 am
by Bumblebee-otch
Ram wrote:
Knight Hawk wrote:Is it just me or is that outfit the ugliest thing you've ever seen ?


I think your forgetting the Iron Spidey costume


i think you're forgetting the FIRST spider-armor.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:48 am
by Deadpool.
Bumblebee-otch wrote:
Ram wrote:
Knight Hawk wrote:Is it just me or is that outfit the ugliest thing you've ever seen ?


I think your forgetting the Iron Spidey costume


i think you're forgetting the FIRST spider-armor.
You mean the silver one?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:51 am
by KAMJIIN
I've always loved Captain America. When Civil War started, I was eager to see the rematch between Cap, and my other childhood hero, Iron Man. The fight between those two in the Vault when I was a kid was the most shocking thing (to me anyway), I'd ever seen in comics.

In the Nineties, they really wussified Cap. I couldn't stomach the book. After Heroes Reborn, I read the new book, but dropped it after the first arc, once it went back to formula.

Captain America was a WWII vetran. He fought the Nazi's on their own turf. Yet he's afraid to do what he needs to to stop the really bad guys. Come on!

I hope this series makes Cap a little more likeable and believeable again. I hate to say it, but he was old and needed to be put down. So does most of the Marvel line. For years I've seen new characters come and go who had so much potential.

They put it best in Runaways:
"I've been to every alternate future there is, and it's all the same. 50 year old men in tights fighter over stuff no one cares about anymore".

Kill 'em all and let the readers sort 'em out.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:08 am
by Bumblebee-otch
Den-O wrote:
Bumblebee-otch wrote:
Ram wrote:
Knight Hawk wrote:Is it just me or is that outfit the ugliest thing you've ever seen ?


I think your forgetting the Iron Spidey costume


i think you're forgetting the FIRST spider-armor.
You mean the silver one?


yep :-P

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:10 am
by Deadpool.
Bumblebee-otch wrote:
Den-O wrote:
Bumblebee-otch wrote:
Ram wrote:
Knight Hawk wrote:Is it just me or is that outfit the ugliest thing you've ever seen ?


I think your forgetting the Iron Spidey costume


i think you're forgetting the FIRST spider-armor.
You mean the silver one?


yep :-P
Oh. He used that on the Enforcers or something.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:25 am
by Bumblebee-otch
Den-O wrote:
Bumblebee-otch wrote:
Den-O wrote:
Bumblebee-otch wrote:
Ram wrote:
Knight Hawk wrote:Is it just me or is that outfit the ugliest thing you've ever seen ?


I think your forgetting the Iron Spidey costume


i think you're forgetting the FIRST spider-armor.
You mean the silver one?


yep :-P
Oh. He used that on the Enforcers or something.


and he looked like he was in the KISS army

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:47 am
by KAMJIIN
Bumblebee-otch wrote:
Den-O wrote:
Bumblebee-otch wrote:
Den-O wrote:
Bumblebee-otch wrote:
Ram wrote:
Knight Hawk wrote:Is it just me or is that outfit the ugliest thing you've ever seen ?


I think your forgetting the Iron Spidey costume


i think you're forgetting the FIRST spider-armor.
You mean the silver one?


yep :-P
Oh. He used that on the Enforcers or something.


and he looked like he was in the KISS army



Which is great if you're fighting the Phantom of the Park.