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Visualising the Tenth Dimension

PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:06 pm
by Handels-Messerschmitt
Here is a real brain-wrecker for your enjoyment. I could do with viewing it again to really listen to what is said about the sixth dimension and up, but it's a very good watch.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 3:39 pm
by Nico
Wow...so if i COULD control this, i would control time and reality ITSELF!!!! Wow... :HALUC:

PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 3:59 pm
by Shadowman
Behold! The Ultimate in Mind-job Technology! :HALUC:

That was an expirience I won't soon forget.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:11 pm
by Mkall
Well that was interesting. I find it somewhat scary that I understood that

PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:16 pm
by Spoon
Very intresting! Thanks for sharing.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:54 pm
by Scatterlung
That WAS interesting.

I doubt it ends at 10 dimensions. Surely theres something that contains those ten, and then something that contains that?

I dont know.. maybe all that stuck with me was the fact that theres a pattern...

PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:17 pm
by DesalationReborn
Only got halfway through the presentation (lousy connection...), but it sounds a lot like "Time Travel in Einstein's Universe," something I picked up several years ago.

Dimensions themselves are just some of many fickle labels to describe the world around us, so it's hard to say how many there are exactly. Time in itself is not really a "dimension" by common definition, but to think of it as such is an excellent way to graph the abstract concept of change.

If any of you are up to date on your science, time in itself is closer to a relative measure of progression and change than a constant ticking clock--essentially, what we actually live in is not a "time line," or river, but a single plane where change just steadally progresses and travel backward and forward in such is technically impossible.

However, if you can somehow slow down energy progression or cause reactions to reverse themselves, requiring an astounding amount of energy, one can technically reverse events, at least in a given sphere, due to the fact that time is determined by movement and change. Change determines time, and the amount and direction of energy affects time; without energy, say at 0 Kelvin, there is no time for the given affected area.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:08 pm
by Senor Hugo
Awesome movie, I'm glad to see that my brain hasn't been dumbed down enough to not understand what the movie was talking about.

Also, Desalation, didn't Superman technically do the whole reverse events thing in the first Superman movie?

He built up enough energy, in this instance speed, to reverse the events that happened minutes earlier.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:22 am
by God Thundercracker
I *think* I understood that. Some scientists think that wormholes might actually lead to other universes. If that's true, then wormholes are really folds in the 9th dimension, since our universe and all its possible timelines are considered to be the 8th dimension. :-?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:06 am
by Predaprince
I get it! :grin:

Though, I am good with topics of this nature.

I might buy this book.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:18 am
by TheMuffin
I got to the 6th dimension and he lost me. I'm not a Math person.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:38 pm
by DesalationReborn
Just got through with it--yep, he's essentially talking about the discussion of probability after the 4th Dimension, and on to potential realities that might not even exist, except in abstract, if the physics of this reality are truly absolute. The problem with calling them "dimensions" is that, as dimensions usually descibe the physical aspects of the universe, so referring to abstract progression and probability as a "dimension" throws people off.


The one problem is that most of these ideas are hypothetical-- mathematics in this current reality denotes that, essentially, only this aspect of reality exists, and the rest are merely hypthetical. Essentially, relying on chaos theory, events in reality follow a sting, one after another, each one due to the actions of one thing, however minute, affecting the events of another, basically passing on and on in a single unreversable cosmic play.

(Note an interesting idea this creates is that all these events can cycle around again to repeat, making us all immortal actors in an ongoing play who do the exact same thing time and time again through the unfathomable ages.)

But it is, technically, a single instant, and time is merely a description of the change in that singularity. If someone finds away to go "back in time," they are essentially only reversing all events in a given area, essentially the whole of reality, or rearranging all matter into the given scenerio, and that requires insane amounts of energy and an incomprehensable understanding of every aspect universal mechanics.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:25 pm
by Tifereth
nice video, ill try to get that book ;)