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Gorenography

Posted:
Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:12 pm
by GrimSqueaker
s anyone else sick and tired of what is happening to horror films.
A coupl eo' years back Saw came out and it was exciting, and refreshing and I freaking loved it. Sadly since then there have been about a half dozen accual horror films released, the rest have all be bloody gorenography, for those of u who dont know gorenograohy is a film with excessive ammounts of blood violence and gore in place of a script, good actors or anything interesting or scary happening at all.
I hate em-
Lets have a little less hostel and more Se7en, Nightmare on Elm Street, Night of the Living Dead, etc.
Also can anyone tell me where all the monsters have gone? When was the last big budget monster movie, I am thinking Slither 2 years back, but i aint certain.

Posted:
Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:47 pm
by Cyber Bishop
Slither was released in 2006.
Last decent Horror flick other than slither (IMHO) released recently was Dawn of the Dead 2004.

Posted:
Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:01 pm
by Cybertron Optimus
I'm no horror fan but I FREAKING HATE movies with nothing but blood,guts and gore.

Posted:
Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:16 pm
by DISCHARGE
You're absolutely right, someone should make a monster movie.
I don't even want to see movies about serial killers and psychopaths, I get enough of that in the evening news.
I live in SE WI and there is a story of a werewolf of Bray Road. I would love it if they took that idea and ran with it.
It doesn't even have to be true, just something about werewolves or a slathering beast of some sort that Alec Baldwin gets devoured by.
I am so tired of the same old popular story of kidnappings and slaying of teenagers by some dude with mental problems.

Posted:
Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:53 pm
by Predaprince
I'm a huge Saw trilogy fan because of how mysterious and thought-provoking they are, but I don't enjoy any of those other pure gore movies such as Hostel and so forth. I completely agree that most horror filmmakers nowadays have given up on originality and only choose which instrument will be used on which body part. Total cr@p.

Posted:
Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:58 pm
by DeathBlast
the sci-fi channel already made the story of a werewolf of Bray Road into a movie..its called the beast of bray road. i thought it was pretty good.

Posted:
Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:04 am
by Autobot032
Movie Optimus wrote:I'm no horror fan but I FREAKING HATE movies with nothing but blood,guts and gore.
Indeed.
With a movie like Highlander, part of the gimmick is the bloody swordfights. (Well choreographed, mind you) The beheadings are going to be bloody and gory, it's expected.
When it's something like that, I might not always be comfortable with it, but I can accept it.
....cutting people up just for the sake of doing so is no.
EDIT: An excellent horror movie, that actually provided enough chills and jumps that got to you, and included gore (without excessiveness) was the original Final Destination. You gotta admit, it was a damn good flick.

Posted:
Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:44 am
by Predaprince
Autobot032 wrote:EDIT: An excellent horror movie, that actually provided enough chills and jumps that got to you, and included gore (without excessiveness) was the original Final Destination. You gotta admit, it was a damn good flick.
WHAM! Hit by the bus.
That's some funny messed-up sh*t right there.

Posted:
Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:46 am
by Autobot032
Predaprince wrote:Autobot032 wrote:EDIT: An excellent horror movie, that actually provided enough chills and jumps that got to you, and included gore (without excessiveness) was the original Final Destination. You gotta admit, it was a damn good flick.
WHAM! Hit by the bus.
That's some funny messed-up sh*t right there.
That bitch deserved it.

Posted:
Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:57 am
by Senor Hugo
Creepy, bad case of deja-vu.
Everything from this entire thread, the responses, me saying "deja-vu" and me having a pot of water boiling for ramen.
But yeah, all horror films now are a bunch of jump-points and ass-loads of gore. The directors don't care about plot, or any story or character development. They just want to find a new way to kill someone.

Posted:
Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:22 am
by GrimSqueaker
I just wanna point out that i love gore, i even love the saw trilogy-what i dont like is pointless grotuatise gore-give me Hirchcock anyday u know what i mean.
They even managed to put a gorenographic scene in the new hitcher movie-that made me a sad monkey

Posted:
Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:31 pm
by Dead Metal
Well that's just wat people want these days, stupid sensless killing.
Well someof the wachers may have something moving in there pants wile waching them! ( you know wat I mean)
Well I prefer those old classics like Aliens ore stuff like that also the Godzillas.
Monstermovies are the best!
Well we might be getting some good old Horror after all, cos Sam Raimie finished Spidy3 (Venom was such a disapointment

) he'll be starting Evil Dead 3 very soon.
Oh and Tarantino is doing a new Jason!

Posted:
Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:37 pm
by Shadowman
Cyber Bishop wrote:Slither was released in 2006.
Last decent Horror flick other than slither (IMHO) released recently was Dawn of the Dead 2004.
To be fair, I never considered the remake of Dawn of the Dead to be horror. I counted it as an action flick. With Zombies.

Posted:
Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:01 pm
by Dagon
I love horror movies, and I am a big fan of gore movies, but I agree with the dominant opinion of this thread. Lately gore has taken the place of actually horror in horror movies as well as taking the place of acting and story line. The more recent movies are all maniac by the side of the road or wandering psychopath or the SAW variety. PErsonally, SAW was brilliant because of its ending but SAW 2 was a wear ripoff and I didn't see SAW 3.
I also agree we need more monster movies. My favorite genre of film is the 50s/60s atom age drive in B movies, and nothing can beat aliens from a flying saucer suspended by string or radioactive monsters that are just spiders superimposed on the film. 'Monster' movies these days are just cruddy vehicles to showcase 30 seconds of CGI monster. For some reason THE CAVE is popping into my mind. Then, the monsters aren't even very good.
The psycho killer genre still has mileage left in its tank, but it is horribly overdone and underdone as well. All the inclusion of gore has cheapened the effect that goriness actually has on an audience, and the gore has become the star of the feature while rapidly losing its star power. In the 70s we had terribly horror movies becuase everyone stole from the Texas Chainsaw MAssacre which was itself a classic. But then we got a bunch of horror movies that spent the whole budget on red kayo syrup and powertools (TOOLBOX MURDERS anyone?) and eliminated anything that would have helped the movie along. The monsters we get are way overdone (more zombies???? Ugh.) and the stories just suck.
I saw JEEPERS CREEPERS II years ago, and towards the end when all the surviving kids run off the school bus and into the cornfield, there were like 7 or 8 people. In the final scene there's like 2 or 3 of them left. What happened to the others? There's no explaination, they were just gone. HOSTEL was inexcusably bad, just bad, an unwatchable movie not becuase of the gore but becuase it was a piss poor story with assinine characters. Wow, some college kids go to Europe and act like dicks, then they die! My favorite part of the movie was that I watched it at home, and my DVD remote features a stop button. Horror movies work becuase you develop an interest in compelling characters; you don't want that guy to get killed becuase you like the character. Todays' movies are just a list of poopy young actors who are fodder for the knife of the maniac. Lame.
Again, I'm a fan of the gory stuff. I've got Traces of Death and all that stuff. The Italian directors who are the 'gor masters' like Argento and Feluci used some gore, but their films had good stories. The gore was an accent to the film itself. That has been lost someplace.

Posted:
Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:20 pm
by Barricade
its scary cause somewhere in the back of your mind you know that has happened/is happening........ and that is what makes it terrifying


Posted:
Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:34 pm
by GrimSqueaker
I love u all so so much-I really ahte hearing asswipes talk about how moving and scary the likes of Hostel are-grrrr I hat that film in particular, it is what incouraged me to start this thread.
Has anyone else laughed out loud at the recent "horror" films, my girlfriend and i cant help but piss our pants laughing out loud at the crap the directors are putting on the screen. The scene with the eye in Hostel


Posted:
Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:45 pm
by Barricade
GrimSqueaker wrote:I love u all so so much-I really ahte hearing asswipes talk about how moving and scary the likes of Hostel are-grrrr I hat that film in particular, it is what incouraged me to start this thread.
Has anyone else laughed out loud at the recent "horror" films, my girlfriend and i cant help but piss our pants laughing out loud at the crap the directors are putting on the screen. The scene with the eye in Hostel

i laughed when the chick jumped in front of the train in hostel

Posted:
Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:13 pm
by Predaprince
GrimSqueaker wrote:I love u all so so much-I really ahte hearing asswipes talk about how moving and scary the likes of Hostel are-grrrr I hat that film in particular, it is what incouraged me to start this thread.
Has anyone else laughed out loud at the recent "horror" films, my girlfriend and i cant help but piss our pants laughing out loud at the crap the directors are putting on the screen. The scene with the eye in Hostel

I tell you what. I'm glad I opened this thread and agreed with you on how these gorey movies just for gore suck, but the original title made me think it was going to be about one of my favorite tv characters: Goren

Posted:
Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:16 am
by Pulsar
Predaprince wrote:GrimSqueaker wrote:I love u all so so much-I really ahte hearing asswipes talk about how moving and scary the likes of Hostel are-grrrr I hat that film in particular, it is what incouraged me to start this thread.
Has anyone else laughed out loud at the recent "horror" films, my girlfriend and i cant help but piss our pants laughing out loud at the crap the directors are putting on the screen. The scene with the eye in Hostel

I tell you what. I'm glad I opened this thread and agreed with you on how these gorey movies just for gore suck, but the original title made me think it was going to be about one of my favorite tv characters: Goren
I love Bobby, he's a riot. I thought the thread was going to be about Burn's HMW char, Gore or even possibly Al Gore
I've never liked gore myself. I prefer psychological thrillers or ghost stories. My favorites are Stephen King films, the Hannibal series and the Omen. The original Shining was way off Stephen King's vision and I was pleased when he redid the movie. I think the second version is far more frightening than the Jack Nicholson version but I do love them both. And I like The Omen because you're left not really knowing if the boy really is the son of satan or if his adopted father is just nuts and caught in a series of unfortunate events. I did however enjoy Final Destination because I thought the story line and the death scenes were quite original.

Posted:
Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:41 am
by Neko
The last American Horror film that scarred me was 'Darkness Falls'. The rest have all been gore-fests whose trailers are barely watchable. That said:
I love Japanese Horror. Aparently I'm afraid of little Asian girls. lol. The Ring (thr first time I saw it) scarred the crap outta me. The grudge (the last five minutes) scared me so bad I stayed up all night and watched Boomerang to counter acted the "scary-ness".
I want to see the Messengers though. That looks like a good horror movie.

Posted:
Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:57 am
by Pulsar
I hear ya, Neko. I watched a South Park marathon after seeing the Ring for the first time


Posted:
Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:24 pm
by Uncrazzimatic
I love horror movies but the new gorey stuff just bores the crap out of me I'm not moved by it at all. Give me a good psychological horror or just a cheesey old monster movie any day.
P.S. I'm both dissapointed and relieved that this thread was not about Al Gore doing porn.

Posted:
Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:48 pm
by GrimSqueaker
Neko wrote:The last American Horror film that scarred me was 'Darkness Falls'. The rest have all been gore-fests whose trailers are barely watchable. That said:
I love Japanese Horror. Aparently I'm afraid of little Asian girls. lol. The Ring (thr first time I saw it) scarred the crap outta me. The grudge (the last five minutes) scared me so bad I stayed up all night and watched Boomerang to counter acted the "scary-ness".
I want to see the Messengers though. That looks like a good horror movie.
My ga loves creepy chinese chicks-I can always creep the hell outta her by putting on the "AAAAAAAAGGGHHHHH" from the grudge.
Smile


Posted:
Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:13 pm
by Neko
GrimSqueaker wrote:Neko wrote:The last American Horror film that scarred me was 'Darkness Falls'. The rest have all been gore-fests whose trailers are barely watchable. That said:
I love Japanese Horror. Aparently I'm afraid of little Asian girls. lol. The Ring (thr first time I saw it) scarred the crap outta me. The grudge (the last five minutes) scared me so bad I stayed up all night and watched Boomerang to counter acted the "scary-ness".
I want to see the Messengers though. That looks like a good horror movie.
My ga loves creepy chinese chicks-I can always creep the hell outta her by putting on the "AAAAAAAAGGGHHHHH" from the grudge.
Smile

*shutters*
I hate that noise.
The great thing about the Grudge is that fact that the scariest parts really arent anything really scary. The worst part for me was after the ghost girl crawled down the stairs and the Main Charcter backed up against the door and looked up and the ghost girl's head was in the door way and it snaked down and looked at her. That's the part that made me stay up all night watching Yogi the Bear.

Posted:
Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:24 pm
by GrimSqueaker
Neko wrote:GrimSqueaker wrote:Neko wrote:The last American Horror film that scarred me was 'Darkness Falls'. The rest have all been gore-fests whose trailers are barely watchable. That said:
I love Japanese Horror. Aparently I'm afraid of little Asian girls. lol. The Ring (thr first time I saw it) scarred the crap outta me. The grudge (the last five minutes) scared me so bad I stayed up all night and watched Boomerang to counter acted the "scary-ness".
I want to see the Messengers though. That looks like a good horror movie.
My ga loves creepy chinese chicks-I can always creep the hell outta her by putting on the "AAAAAAAAGGGHHHHH" from the grudge.
Smile

*shutters*
I hate that noise.
The great thing about the Grudge is that fact that the scariest parts really arent anything really scary. The worst part for me was after the ghost girl crawled down the stairs and the Main Charcter backed up against the door and looked up and the ghost girl's head was in the door way and it snaked down and looked at her. That's the part that made me stay up all night watching Yogi the Bear.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
