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ALTERNATORS ML Rampage/Armada Wheeljack

PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 5:50 pm
by Darkprime13
Micron Legend RAMPAGE or Armada Wheeljack

This is actually my very first kitbash ever and overall I'm very pleased with it, but there are several things I can improve next time thanks to all I learned in the process. I choose to model this figure off of Takara's version of armada wheeljack or simply Micron Legend Rampage.

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I hope Squall42080 doesn't think I'm trying to copy his alt-armada concept because I told him of my plans of this guy a long time ago and he said he would be doing one as well someday, I just thought his would be ready by now. Like him, I really enjoyed armada and some of the characters I think look great as alts. Oh and by the way, Squall42080 does absolutely amazing work so if you haven't seen his armada-alt customs, you are missing something truely special.

Here's what I did to make this guy: I took everything apart within removing pins. I stripped as much paint off of an alternators prowl as I could before I painted it. I could have gone the easy route and just left prowl's black plastic alone, but I came across Tamiya Metallic Black spray paint. WOW! You can't tell from the pics, but in person he looks so much better painted metallic black. Since a lot of the plastic is black, I didn't need much paint. Combined that with Tamiya Clear Paint (clearcoat) on the body and the body doesn't chip! I also took the spoiler from a BT Prowl because it more resembled the spoiler on wheeljack/rampage. When removing the lightbar, I used Tamiya Modeling Putty to fill in the holes. This seemed to work well but after I let it dry and then painted it, the putty would settle even further down the hole (or compress) so I still have small depressions where the lightbar was. I may come back to fix this sometime, but in bot mode it doesn't matter. Thanks to a small sacrifice from another alt prowl, this figure gets not one, but two whooping-sticks. The logos come by way of Reprolabels. I used their "clear backing" logos and they RULE! If you buy logos from them, I suggest that style. However, I did use a silver backed logo on his chest for the decepticon badge. By using the silver backed one here, it looks kinda like a hood ornament/badge. I tried the clear backing one here but you just couldn't see it against the black.

As you can tell by the chest, I did remove part of the autobot logo for the scar. The scar is not just silver paint. I used a dremmel on it to dig into the plastic and really rough it up to give more of the appearance of a scar in person, much like a real scar. I toyed with the idea of cutting a hole to expose the engine, but I decided it may look bad and actually is kinda stupid. I can understand having a battle scar or emotional scar like that kept around, but the orignal toy didn't just have a scar, he had a HOLE. I think it made more sense to show the hood has having sealed up but leaving something that looks more like a real scar.

The head comes from Bumblebee1251 of Transtopia. He casted an alternators meister head and sent me two copies. The heads turned out ok, but it was good enough to use, and much cheaper than buying a meister to chop off its head. With some use of a dremmel, lots of sanding, chiselling out the top of the head to give the appearance of horns, and carefully painting it, I think I have a fairly convincing armada wheeljack head. I thought about using an armada wheeljack head, but it would be a bit too small and messy to remove and convert for an alternator body.

Some other thoughts: Taking the time to mask off parts with modeling masking tape really helps. This way I didn't get any paint over the windows or the black trim around them. I Used tamiya acryllics: Flat Yellow, Flat White, White Primer (spray), Pure White (Spray), Metallic Black (spray), Flat Black (for the interior), and Sky Blue (a perfect match of the blue on the original armada figure). For the wheels and face, I used Testors Gold Enamel. My acryllic gold was just too light of a color to use. Oh, and everything I painted got a Clear Coat treatment to help from chipping. Not only that, but it helps a lot of the paint to shine too!

The one area I would love to redo in the future are the legs and arms that are white. I just couldn't get my paints to adhere well to those regions. Consequently, I had stripped the paint several times but that only made things worse. Up close, the arms look fine but the thighs look messy (only the white part, not the yellow). If Hasbro ever gives us a repaint with White Parts, I will be buying a spare to swap some extra parts on this figure. Also, if anyone repaints a prowl, do not paint the balljoints, the elbows, or shoulders as any paint in this high friction parts will come right off, just as is happing in those places on mine.

If there are any questions, please feel free to ask. Critism is welcome, but remember this is my very first kitbash so please keep harsh words to a minimum and kind words to a maximum. :-)

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For more pictures, you can see all of them here: http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/ ... t_rampage/

PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 5:51 pm
by Darkprime13
By the way, what do I need to do to enter it into the kitbash gallery?

PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 6:10 pm
by swampmojo
dude, that rocks!

PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 6:13 pm
by Soundwarp
Fantastically done!
Did you hit it with a few coats of clear to finish?
And congrats on the detail in colour matching!

PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 6:16 pm
by Darkprime13
I used clear coat everywhere. One thing I noticed is that on the parts that i brushed, the clear coat seemed to slightly dissolve the paint and smooth out brush strokes. I could really see this on the seats.

PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 11:28 pm
by gunman_sr5
Sweet! At first glance I actualy had mistaken it for the Armada version until I saw the doors, and everything registered. Thats an amazing likeness. Great work!

PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 11:31 pm
by gunman_sr5
Darkprime wrote:By the way, what do I need to do to enter it into the kitbash gallery?


I don't know the specifics, but it would definitly be a repaint. All you do is post 1 pic of bot mode and 1 of alt mode in the apropriot catagory. Then just add the same pic I have for the larger sig here as your sig. That simple.

ALTERNATORS ML Rampage/Armada Wheeljack

PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 11:55 pm
by Dark_Fool
I love these armada alts! I liked the armada stuff, despite all the repaints.

I'm really looking forward to someone doing an alt armada Megs/Galvy

perhaps out of the new optimus alt?

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 6:07 am
by Darkprime13
gunman_sr5 wrote:
Darkprime wrote:By the way, what do I need to do to enter it into the kitbash gallery?


I don't know the specifics, but it would definitly be a repaint. All you do is post 1 pic of bot mode and 1 of alt mode in the apropriot catagory. Then just add the same pic I have for the larger sig here as your sig. That simple.


I'm not seeing where to post it. Oh well, if it doens't get added, i guess it doens't matter. By the way, I still think it would fall under as a kitbash because I did more than just painting by modifying the hood, removing the light bar and trying to fill in the holes, swapping spoilers, and getting him his own head. Granted it's not a lot of kitbash work by any means, but I see other figures in the kitbash gallery which have the same or less alterations done to them (and yes, many with far far more done to them).

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 6:38 am
by Ramrider
I think for competition purposes, it would count as a repaint. But a bloody awesome one - like Gunman, if you hadn't pointed out from the get-go that it was an Alt, it would have taken me a few seconds to register. The detail matching is incredible!

Big up, big up! 8)

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 7:07 am
by Darkprime13
I checked out the contest and I see what you mean for kitbash there. It seems minor alterations can go into the kitbash gallery, but for the contest, they go into repaints. I'll enter right away.

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 8:49 am
by OdeeanRDeathshead
cooool

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 3:23 pm
by jimsloth
I think you mean to submit pics for a gallery on the main page, right? If so, you need to email the pics to Devastator. I forget exactly how many you need. Brief bio tech spec style or just a description of what you did along with the pics is appreciated. He'll fill you in more.

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 3:27 pm
by Darkprime13
Thanks, that's exactly what I was talking about earlier. I'll shoot him a PM about it.

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 1:33 am
by TM Rawhide
looks very VERY good.

Great job, especially considering it's your first.

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 8:05 am
by CX-1
That looks awesome man! :D

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 1:00 pm
by TM Devastator
That is a very beautiful custom! When I first scrolled through this thread I thought there were two of the same figure and didn't see the point. You did such a good job at tweaking the mold and copying the color scheme you foold me Darkprime! This figure looks so official. I can't think of anything I'd change.

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 6:14 pm
by jimsloth
exept if you really wanted to go all out, pimp him gull wing doors. Shouldn't be too hard either, just two hinges attached to the inside of the roof.

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 6:55 pm
by Darkprime13
I wouldn't mind gull wing doors, but then it wouldn't exactly be an alternator since the RSX doesn't come in a gull wing flavor. Plus, i'm not sure if the roof could really support it. It's not a bad idea though and it would be cool if someone could pull it off.

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 10:44 pm
by jimsloth
Yea, I know the car doesn't come that way, but you could look at it like this, the car also doesn't come with a big hole in the hood. Think of it as some of the bots got customized pimp my ride/ Monster Garage style. Anyways, I'll look back at my alt red alert to try to figure out just how realistic this is.

PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:14 am
by Skullgrin140
At last! a poseable Wheeljack :lol:

PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 8:19 pm
by Hobbyist Prime
Dude, That is incredible!!!!! I looked at it and thought what did he change? and then I saw the side by side pic and dropped a load! Very Nice!!!!!!(the bash not the load just to clear things up)