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So all this whiney alt garbage has got me thinking...

PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:06 pm
by Psychout
Is there a particular set of alts that people really want but don't/can't use?

We all know some alt classes are better than others, and some of the alt images are better than others, so how about we try and work out which ones are the ones people are after and how they could be improved.

Before we all get too excited, NO, BURN STILL CANT CHANGE THE ALT CLASSES/RARITIES/ETC. so there will be no direct game changes.

But we do have alt hunt thread at the top of the page here which is still running, and there is potential for more games/battles similar to BB's war on Wingz that could possibly maybe potentially even have prizes*.
*Existence of any 'prizes' is still TBC

As the inventor of the original althunt back in 2005, and organiser of a shedload of the previous tourneys here, I'm thinking we can continue the fun, and Burn is on board with it as long he doesn't actually have to do any of the heavy lifting (and he can get regular breaks so to watch his country lose at the rugby.)


So, the question is: What alts would you fight over, and just how hard would you be willing fight for them?

Re: So all this whiney alt garbage has got me thinking...

PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:21 pm
by Bun-Bun
Just to be clear:

Are people limited to the pictures in the altmode threads, or any mode with an ID number (which would include Sharkticons/Allicons/& a couple others), or any mode that is in the image database?

Re: So all this whiney alt garbage has got me thinking...

PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:27 pm
by Psychout
As far as I know, everything in the image list is available in some form as an alt.

As for the shark/allicon etc. alts, they are 100% Burns call. If he wants to allow them he can, as *IF* we ever get to the point of adding prizes, he's the one who has to make the updates.

Re: So all this whiney alt garbage has got me thinking...

PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:58 pm
by Burn
Making this quick as I'm swamped at work.

Behold, the ramming and strafing Sharkticon (that used to be a Squirrel)

And this is how it's done.
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So that's what I can do. All I ask is that people be patient in the event of any rewards.

Re: So all this whiney alt garbage has got me thinking...

PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:54 am
by Bun-Bun
A rare glimpse behind the veil.... Oooooooooh
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Out of curiousity, in the "Transform Type" dropdown is there an option for "None" or "Actionmaster" or anything like that? Could be cool for those that want a pretty picture action master or... ImageImage Image Image Image Image

Also out of curiousity is there a second Sharkticon or QuintSharkticon option in the Image dropdown? Image

Sometime down the road this Image would make a cool contest. It should be fine as long it is formatted as just a tank and not an Overcharge Drone with 3 tactics.

Another someday contest: Revenge of the Fallen Image


As for more mundane picks. At some point I'd like a crack at the Zamboni Image and the Turkey Image just for the lulz

Re: So all this whiney alt garbage has got me thinking...

PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:41 am
by Overwatch
Second Bun-Bun on the quint related alts - faces, sharkticon, allicon, etc. Personal favourite of mine was the Sith Infiltrator, want it for my Hunter-Killer Drone Leader.

On a side note, what if, in the event of rewards being distributed, the organisers where to receive something as well. Wingz and Bun-Bun for example, put a fair amount of work into the recent One Week War, as I understand it.

Re: So all this whiney alt garbage has got me thinking...

PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:29 am
by Bun-Bun
Overwatch wrote:Personal favourite of mine was the Sith Infiltrator, want it for my Hunter-Killer Drone Leader.

Do you mean the old school one I was using for a while Image


Overwatch wrote:On a side note, what if, in the event of rewards being distributed, the organisers where to receive something as well. Wingz and Bun-Bun for example, put a fair amount of work into the recent One Week War, as I understand it.
I appreciate the thought but I'm cool. I just wanted to try and inject some life back into this forum. Wingz though did go above & beyond tracking with her spreadsheet though so if she wanted one I'm cool with that.
Even though I'd participate in these competitions I probably wouldn't keep any Alt mode won for very long. I'm constantly reformatting to try different setups and test mechanics (not changing anythign during the 1WW was probably the hardest part for me :lol: )

Speaking of.... time to make some changes

Re: So all this whiney alt garbage has got me thinking...

PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:07 am
by Overwatch
Bun-Bun wrote:
Overwatch wrote:Personal favourite of mine was the Sith Infiltrator, want it for my Hunter-Killer Drone Leader.

Do you mean the old school one I was using for a while Image


That is the one thank you.

Re: So all this whiney alt garbage has got me thinking...

PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:28 am
by Naval Strike
I really want this alt for Naval Strike Joint Strike Fighter Image

I want this one for Image for Darkscope

Re: So all this whiney alt garbage has got me thinking...

PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:07 pm
by Burn
Unless they're named as something else, a quick look says there's no "Quintessons". There's also only one Sharkticon.

And apparently I can set characters to have no tactics but have an alt mode. Haven't tested it though (I kinda slept in ...)

Re: So all this whiney alt garbage has got me thinking...

PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:26 pm
by Bun-Bun
Burn wrote:Unless they're named as something else, a quick look says there's no "Quintessons". There's also only one Sharkticon.

And apparently I can set characters to have no tactics but have an alt mode. Haven't tested it though (I kinda slept in ...)

"Judge", "Face of ****", "Magistrate", "Prosecutor"...

It was a pipedream really that they'd still be in there but thanks for looking.

Re: So all this whiney alt garbage has got me thinking...

PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:53 pm
by Psychout
I generally found them to be part of the filename?

e.g is it possible this would be 'altmode_judge'?
https://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwa ... _judge.gifImage



And adding alts to action masters is utterly pointless, but pretty cool nonetheless,

Re: So all this whiney alt garbage has got me thinking...

PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:57 pm
by Xenos Prime
My commitment to the Alien Monster theme is strong. As such there are only 2 'bot modes I covet.

The so-called creature41, Draconian Creature, seemingly based on Vertigo from Primal Rage but also looks like an Alien Queen. An on-theme Helpful Land Animal would be great.
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The other is 233, the Displacer Beast or Panther/Squid Fuzor. A Ferocious Land Animal, I'm trying to make strafe work but it's tiring.
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Tying to keep theme regardless of tactics sucks sometimes but I'd rather my team look the way I want. I do love that Harpy is an Opportunistic Land Animal rather than Opportunistic Air Animal despite her obvious wings. I wouldn't mind a Predator or Hunter on my roster.

Re: So all this whiney alt garbage has got me thinking...

PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:00 pm
by Psychout
And this ^^ is the sort of answer I was looking for :lol:

Thanks Xenos.

Re: So all this whiney alt garbage has got me thinking...

PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:23 pm
by Xenos Prime
Righteous.

Follow up question. Anyone recognize where these Alts come from?
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Re: So all this whiney alt garbage has got me thinking...

PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:37 pm
by Psychout
I have a hunch they are Warhammer related as they were added by Mkall when he was in charge and Jeep (a former mod) made up a bunch of monster alts based on the Games Workshop line.

Don't recognise them individually though. One of the other brits might.

Re: So all this whiney alt garbage has got me thinking...

PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:44 pm
by Xenos Prime
Ha, Thanks.

I know they aren't from Warhammer since I have all the other Tyranid (Alien Monster Faction) Alts.

Been digging through Godzilla Wiki and Wayne Barlow art trying to figure it out.

Re: So all this whiney alt garbage has got me thinking...

PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:00 pm
by Bun-Bun
Some of the modes currently in the game came out of here

Some are even labeled.
If you have the time to go through it you may find your answer... Or you could just marvel at all the awesome modes that likely never will be used :-(

Re: So all this whiney alt garbage has got me thinking...

PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:04 pm
by Psychout
Photobucket being cancerous has made that thread almost unreadable.

Re: So all this whiney alt garbage has got me thinking...

PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:10 pm
by Bun-Bun
Most of mkalls stuff still works.
Last time I was in there phaswings stuff was partially intact (I thought)

Re: So all this whiney alt garbage has got me thinking...

PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:44 pm
by Xenos Prime
Thanks Bun, I got the answer to my questions. Plus instructions on how to make. This should entertain me for several hours. Also photobucket is a nightmare. I haven't been in ages. Don't go without sufficient AdBlock software.

if anyone was wondering I asked about in order:
Draudnu (D&D)
Crustacean Rex (Godzilla Animated)
Crackler (Godzilla Animated)