The Energon Pub

Due to the increasing queries arising about when V2 will arrive, I've taken it upon myself to make a checklist of features yet to be implemented in the run-down to V2. The usefulness being that it will give us a fairly accurate guess as to when V2 will arrive, by simply checking what we have, don't have, and what is currently being implemented.

Here's what we have so far:

V2 Completion - Underway

Alt-modes - Currently being implemented
Missions - Underway
Challenge Pit - Underway
Weapons - Underway
Tactics - Underway
New Factions - Currently being implemented
Map of Cybertron - Not complete
New Forums - Currently being implemented

This isn't perfect, so any critisism and ways to improve it would be appreciated, also any mistakes made tell me about them and I'll fix them.

Hope this helps everyone!

Dude, ease on the enthusiasm.

For starters, you're not a Mod or Admin so any info you or I or any other normal member has is just a wild guess or misinterpretation from some passing post.

Secondly, this is what we have that V2 FAQ at the top for.

Thirdly, the new forums aren't complete anyway, the REAL new forums are still waiting for Ryan to implement the spiffy new version of phpBB! (That's a known fact)

Fourthly, i'm sure the weapons and tactics are, or at the very least, near complete, though I don't think OS is going to implement them into this version. (From a passing comment or two)

Fifthly, this crappy cold is moving into my chest and i'm going to be coughing all f-ing night I know it. Oh well .... i'll just stay up downloading BSG:Razor

Sixthly (or sickly in my case), kick Mkall in the head (or other body part of your choosing, he's Canadian, he won't complain too much ) and make him put something like this into the FAQ anyway. It'll give him something to do instead of sitting around wondering why his bots perform so badly when in missions with mine.

Burn wrote:Dude, ease on the enthusiasm.

For starters, you're not a Mod or Admin so any info you or I or any other normal member has is just a wild guess or misinterpretation from some passing post.

Secondly, this is what we have that V2 FAQ at the top for.

Thirdly, the new forums aren't complete anyway, the REAL new forums are still waiting for Ryan to implement the spiffy new version of phpBB! (That's a known fact)

Fourthly, i'm sure the weapons and tactics are, or at the very least, near complete, though I don't think OS is going to implement them into this version. (From a passing comment or two)

Fifthly, this crappy cold is moving into my chest and i'm going to be coughing all f-ing night I know it. Oh well .... i'll just stay up downloading BSG:Razor

Sixthly (or sickly in my case), kick Mkall in the head (or other body part of your choosing, he's Canadian, he won't complain too much ) and make him put something like this into the FAQ anyway. It'll give him something to do instead of sitting around wondering why his bots perform so badly when in missions with mine.

...Wow!

Er, I really don't know what to say...

Personally, I only posted this as an indication to people of how close V2 is, mainly because everybody keeps asking and no-one really knows what's been done.

And since no Mod or Admin has done this yet, what's stopping me from putting up a table of what's been implemented, true, only they know how fargone into V2 we are, but then it would be helpful if they told us afresh rather than posting it on the V2 FAQ which is really confusing.

Personally, I'm having troble grasping what has or hasn't been done for V2, and by the sounds of things, so are many other people.

And the V2 FAQ, I thought, was to ask questions about V2, I haven't seen anything on their recently about what has or hasn't been done.

If I'm being overambitious, then I appologise, but I'm only trying to make things easier for everyone to digest.

Also, I'm changing the points you made on the forums and weapons now, thanks!

And finally...Sorry about your cold, hope you get well soon!

(Deep breath)...Anyone else with any constructive critisism? No, seriously, I'd appreciate it!

While I definitely don't speak for OS, if I were in his shoes i'd be feeling pretty bloody rotten about V2 being delayed again and again and again, and a thread like this wouldn't help at all. (Like I said, i'm not speaking for OS nor do I assume he's even feeling that way)

I know life has probably gotten in the way, and you can't fault the guy for that.

Plus, if he tells us what's done and what isn't and what he's working on, how is he going to suprise us?

We all just need to sit back and be patient. Good things come to those who wait. Even me.

the reason so many people are having trouble grasping what is and isn't in v2 is becuase NO ONE really knows what will and won't make it.

as one part get's implemented another part will change in reflection to it.

like robot modes means a change to the leveling system which changes the stats system, which changes how the weapons need to be balanced, which changes how the armours will work, which changes how resources are gathered which changes the map system is implemented, which changes playing options, which changes ad infinitum.


and then of course someone will com up with a great idea which OS wants to put in v2 which changes which changes everything all over again.

this was why glyph was always after a holistic system.

Agreed on all points everyone. OS is a busy guy at times and even we mods haven't seen him around in a while. I'm trying my best to get an update on him.

That's why something like what Hollow One's suggested hasn't made its way up to the FAQ thread is because we staff often times know just as much as the players as what the status of HMW's new features are. They come as they come.

Ok, I'll try and explain it again.

This isn't one of those 'Oh, is V2 here yet?' threads, this is a thread designed to answer whether or not V2 is here yet or not.

I'm not saying 'OS, hurry the hell up with V2 NOW!', rather the contrary, I'm meerly trying to tell everyone 'Ok, here's how progress stands with V2 at the moment, here's what OS has yet to implement, now that you know, stop pestering about when V2 is ready'.

If I've caused offense to anyone, then sorry, I'm not whining about V2, hell, I want it to come sooner or later, but if OS has to take his time implementing everything, then I'll happily wait for a good game than a crap one that was rushed due to popular demand.

And why should not being an Admin or Mod restrict me fro making this thread anyway?

There, that's my opinion on the matter, just so you know.

i dont see any progress
damn false report

Hollow One wrote:This isn't one of those 'Oh, is V2 here yet?' threads, this is a thread designed to answer whether or not V2 is here yet or not.

You know, the tragic part about this is that some people actually DO need a thread like that, even though it should be pretty obvious whether V2 is here or not.

And why should not being an Admin or Mod restrict me fro making this thread anyway?

Because you don't know what's going on. Such things should always come from an official source to prevent confusion. And look! You've confused steve to the point he's used two full sentences! Now we'll never shut him up.

Burn wrote:

Hollow One wrote:And why should not being an Admin or Mod restrict me fro making this thread anyway?

Because you don't know what's going on. Such things should always come from an official source to prevent confusion. And look! You've confused steve to the point he's used two full sentences! Now we'll never shut him up.

You're not a Mod.
You're not a Admin.
You're not a member of the Support Staff (is anyone these days?)

Those are the people who are likely to know first from OS, and sometimes he even swears them to secrecy as he likes for things to sometimes be a suprise!

Fair points I suppose.

Listen, if there's such a big disapproval about the idea, then there's probably really no need to do it then, even though the whole point was to just help people out about when V2 was coming, due to the sheer volume of people asking about it.

Unless the Mods or someone in charge wants to do something about this, then you might as well lock it or delete it, either way it's not serving the purpose I intended it to serve.

it's only you and me Burn who are ex support members, though sustain's on indefinite hiatus, i dunno what sprokitz or Hoistimus or windracer are up to.

Tammuz wrote:it's only you and me Burn who are ex support members, though sustain's on indefinite hiatus, i dunno what sprokitz or Hoistimus or windracer are up to.

Yeah, but you're still wanted.

but i'm not given enough information in order to carry out my support function properly, without the knowledge of all the variables i can't make them balance.

i for one can wait for the goodies,i know the longer the wait, the better the game,and the less chance's a bug can be used to cheat in said game,cheat is a harsh word but if anything gives you a advantage over others in the game that others don't have,thats what it is in my book ,be it faction only alt types,or whatever.

so, take your time and work out the bugs and give us all a better game in the end,time is time,it means little afer the game kicks off,and everyone will be happy to have waited for the finished product. imho

I've noticed four or five threads in the last week asking if V2 was here yet. I think HW was trying to cut down on the work for the mods by making one central thread answering that based on what we have been told is going on, and the things we see already in the game.

I agree. It would have been better to suggest it to a mod instead of just going with it, but you have to give him credit. He was only trying to help. HW is just a little highstrung. I guess it must be TADD.

KAMJIIN wrote:I've noticed four or five threads in the last week asking if V2 was here yet. I think HW was trying to cut down on the work for the mods by making one central thread answering that based on what we have been told is going on, and the things we see already in the game.

Yeah but the way I see it, if multiple threads pop up asking the same thing annoys you, just get over it.

If the Mods are swamped and can't keep up, then they're smart enough to know they'll need help and will appoint others.

And really, at the end of the day you could create as many "help" threads as you like, but people are not going to read them. That is the nature of humans on forums.

I just spoke with OS. He's been quite busy with government work and a challenging contract. He should be able to come back next week.

Tammuz wrote:it's only you and me Burn who are ex support members, though sustain's on indefinite hiatus, i dunno what sprokitz or Hoistimus or windracer are up to.

support staff...umm im theoretically on it, but don't actually do anything...besides randomly toss out math that almost everyone ignores...and I agree with you, only so much you can do without knowing all the variables...have to design it up to some unknown projective transformation matrix for all the unknown variables...and then run ransac on it real quick to come up with what that matrix is once the values are actually known...or estimate them based on experimental results (but I don't see those happening any time soon).

Burn wrote:

KAMJIIN wrote:I've noticed four or five threads in the last week asking if V2 was here yet. I think HW was trying to cut down on the work for the mods by making one central thread answering that based on what we have been told is going on, and the things we see already in the game.

Yeah but the way I see it, if multiple threads pop up asking the same thing annoys you, just get over it.

If the Mods are swamped and can't keep up, then they're smart enough to know they'll need help and will appoint others.

And really, at the end of the day you could create as many "help" threads as you like, but people are not going to read them. That is the nature of humans on forums.

I'm not disagreeing with you. I just said Hollow was trying to be helpful. No, the multiple threads don't annoy me. And if you notice I did say it should have been handled by a mod, because that's what they do.

sprockitz wrote:support staff...umm im theoretically on it, but don't actually do anything...besides randomly toss out math that almost everyone ignores...and I agree with you, only so much you can do without knowing all the variables...

I agree about the variables, and the math is interesting to me 4 1...
When I'm on...

It took the cons the better part of two years to reverse the mechanics we do know and that still has some big gaps. But we cant work out the tactics that arent implemented yet
Need input!