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Robot modes and their half arsed removal...
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Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:35 pmby Redimus
I would have been happy to keep robot modes personly, but fiar enough OS decided to remove them until V2.
But if that is the case, they should be UNIVERSALLY removed.
I reset a charecter today (Bitchkrieg), and was unable to select a robot mode for her. I though; 'thats odd, I havnt noticed any gain in xp or change in performance on the rest of my team'. So I check some other charecters, they still have their robot modes.
So, now the game is REALLY unbalanced, much more than any differences in RM. If you reset your charecter, you will be MASIVLY disadvantaged against anybody who hasnt reset a charecter...
Can we please get this fixed?
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Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:43 pmby Mkall
I'm sure OS is working on getting them all out. I guess the ones that have xp invested in them aren't as easy to remove. I'm sure you want the xp back that you invested in them right?
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Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:46 pmby Tammuz
didn't we have that done at their inception, mkall?
anyhoo, ARE we sure they haven't had just their functionality removed?
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Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:48 pmby Redimus
Mkall wrote:I'm sure OS is working on getting them all out. I guess the ones that have xp invested in them aren't as easy to remove. I'm sure you want the xp back that you invested in them right?
As long as I can get the xp back by resetting them (the loss of the RM may make me wanna change the build anyway), I would have no problem at all with that. Im sure there are those that would be angry about the loss of their alts, but thats life.
Id have thought it would be very difficult to remove the stats and remberse the xp (unless the game works backwards, which I dotn think it does).
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Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:32 pmby Shadowblade_DW
I think it would be easy just time consuming. Unlike other stats the RM's take the same amount of xp to upgrade no matter what. 1 point takes 3000, so 3000 would be returned 2 points 6000, so 9000 would be returned (6000 + 3000 for the previous point) and so on.
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Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:40 pmby Scantron
I'm sure OS is getting around to taking down active robot modes, but it's certain to not be as easy as preventing people from adding robot modes after a reset.
Wonder if it wouldn't be easier/faster to just wipe out the robot modes and the xp everyone has stored in them. After that, give the benefit of the doubt and assume every character (a) had a robot mode and (b) had it maxed out. Then, just give everyone ~3 million xp (or whatever 10 points in robot mode cost) as compensation. Some characters would end up overcompensated, but with a game reset on the horizon, that shouldn't matter much.
Tammuz wrote:anyhoo, ARE we sure they haven't had just their functionality removed?
The Computational Types still appear to be giving a defense boost last I checked (~ 1 hour ago), so I'd guess not yet.
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Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:03 pmby Tammuz
cheers scantron, at least one of is actually being hit.
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Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:23 pmby Omega Sentinel
Since you asked so nicely I just ripped them all out.
You'll all have to reset your characters to get your XP back.
Enjoy
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Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:45 pmby Burn
Thanks for the heads up OS.
And I don't mean that in a sarcastic way.
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Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:06 pmby Rat Convoy
Omega Sentinel wrote:Since you asked so nicely I just ripped them all out.
You'll all have to reset your characters to get your XP back.
Enjoy
Could you please reinstate our access to our profile-attached prize alts, so I can reset Rattrap? Whenever you find the time, obviously, but I'd appreciate it very much. Thank you.
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Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:12 pmby Colinus Maximus
Redimus wrote:Mkall wrote:I'm sure OS is working on getting them all out. I guess the ones that have xp invested in them aren't as easy to remove. I'm sure you want the xp back that you invested in them right?
As long as I can get the xp back by resetting them (the loss of the RM may make me wanna change the build anyway), I would have no problem at all with that. Im sure there are those that would be angry about the loss of their alts, but thats life.
Id have thought it would be very difficult to remove the stats and remberse the xp (unless the game works backwards, which I dotn think it does).
You're right about being angry, or in my case darn near furious, about loosing the alt. I haven't reset my top bot in 2 in a half years because I didn't want to loose his old Autobot alt. TWO AND A HALF YEARS! So now I'm either forced to reset or be out several hundred thousand experience.
Any chance I can get switched over to the Autobots? I was gonna anyway come V2.
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Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:20 pmby Wrath
I just reset Wrath to try a new config, but didn't receive the xp from the 8 points he had in his bot mode.
Just a heads-up to OS and to all commanders that you might want to be patient with the resetting for now.
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Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:25 pmby Tammuz
dang that's a bug.
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Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:27 pmby Rat Convoy
Wrath wrote:I just reset Wrath to try a new config, but didn't receive the xp from the 8 points he had in his bot mode.
Just a heads-up to OS and to all commanders that you might want to be patient with the resetting for now.
Are you sure? Cause I just reset three of my bots and I didn't have anything like that problem.
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Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:31 pmby Scantron
Rat Convoy wrote:Are you sure? Cause I just reset three of my bots and I didn't have anything like that problem.
I just reset four characters and didn't run into that problem either; the xp totals and available xp for my team members are all correct.
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Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:37 pmby Wrath
Sorry, false alarm. I went and checked and realised I was making a very stupid mistake
My apologies, all is good.
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Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:43 pmby Shadow Dragon
I just reset 11 of mine and couldn't care if the XP was there or not, haven't bothered with setting them back up so don't know if their leftover total after the non-bot mode upgrades is the same or not, and again don't really care. However since this came up and I'm all about actually helping I checked before and after reset for the one that was still in CR and I didn't lose anything either.
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Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:59 pmby Omega Sentinel
Everyone should be fine.
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Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:02 amby Shadow Dragon
I didn't think you'd leave us out in the cold, just yanking any stat shouldn't have affected any total XP after a reset anyway.
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Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:27 amby Wingspan
Omega Sentinel wrote:Everyone should be fine.
Everything is.
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Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:24 amby Redimus
Omega Sentinel wrote:Everyone should be fine.
Thank you.
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Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:17 amby steve2275
dang
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Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:34 amby Absolute Zero
No offense, but it's still pretty half assed removal.
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Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:15 amby jazzrules
If we're gonna have to reset our bots to get our xp back would it be possible for the Autobot Iron stocks to be replenished. I've got a lot of 'bots with armour which I'll lose and wont be able to get back.
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Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:08 amby iconscons
Yes, the armor issue is a big deal. I must decide weather to keep my armor or keep my experience.