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Re:We want Mini-cons

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:17 pm
by quack2008
Hey your plan lock it away cause one major promblem people that just got
on like me never got to even see a Mini-con on here and it and thats not
fair so you can give them back nice or figth for them cause this a game on combat so we will fight misson styl only everony one can join so whats it going to be?

Re: Re:We want Mini-cons

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:21 pm
by Whisper
It's gonna be no for the time being.

Besides, you ain't missing a great deal, so I wouldn't get too worked up about it... :PEACE:

Re: Re:We want Mini-cons

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:23 pm
by Jeep?
They'll not be back for a long time. They were broken, unfair, broken, and in the end, broken.

Re: Re:We want Mini-cons

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:39 pm
by Dr. Caelus
Jeep! wrote:They'll not be back for a long time. They were broken, unfair, broken, and in the end, broken.


That pretty much sums it up, though I will add that the programmer that created them, added them, and took them away is no longer here.

I would guess our current Admin probably doesn't know where the on switch is in the mess that he's inherited, and almost certainly doesn't have the assets to fix the errors in them. Afterall, their creator apparently couldn't knock out the bugs.

To elaborate on what was wrong with the minicons:

Most of them boosted stats (by +4 or +2). Because of the way the game works, if your stats go over 10, things get out of hand. Logically, to be corrected, there needed to be a provision to make sure that If stat>10, then stat=10, but apparently that's not simple to code.

I'm going to leave this open for now in case anyone more proficient in the game's math/coding wants to offer a more accurate/in depth explanation, but in the end, unfortunately, no matter how much some of us may want minicons back, AFAIK we can't simply restock them... even if we knew how. :?

When I updated the weapons last week, btw, I added a "Minicon Cannon" as one of the higher power weapons. It's just a weapon, nothing special, and it will take a while to get to the point that you can use it, but if you simply want a Minicon for RP purposes, that's something to shoot for.

-CL

Edit: And please, this time, let's keep JP's love life out of this.

Re: Re:We want Mini-cons

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:12 pm
by Archanubis
Caelus wrote:Edit: And please, this time, let's keep JP's love life out of this.

What love life? :P

Back on subject, yeah, the Minicons were little more than glorified power-ups. Expensive, rather short lived power-ups.

Re: Re:We want Mini-cons

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:17 pm
by Shadow Dragon
Yeah, and you completely lost them when you got Stasis Locked so they weren't really a wise financial investment either.

Re: Re:We want Mini-cons

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:54 am
by Carnosaur
we dont need them

Re: Re:We want Mini-cons

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:03 am
by crazyfists
i'll pass on the minicons also. i purchased 12 of them and never really used them. once you take them out of their package they lose value.

Re: Re:We want Mini-cons

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:09 am
by Jeep?
I just used them as bio enhancements, really. Having minicons inspired me to write them into some of my bios.

Re: Re:We want Mini-cons

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:51 am
by Shadow Dragon
crazyfists wrote:i'll pass on the minicons also. i purchased 12 of them and never really used them. once you take them out of their package they lose value.


Only time I used them was during tournaments and blew a lot of energon on the puppies constantly replacing them.

Re: Re:We want Mini-cons

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:20 am
by Psychout
Minicons cost me over 20 million energon, it was awesome.

Not fussed if they return though, id rather see them gone intil they're fixed than reactivated and broken.

Re: Re:We want Mini-cons

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:22 am
by Symbiote Spiderman14
I would prefer other things were fixed first like missions for the beast factions or removing them all together.

Re: Re:We want Mini-cons

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:05 am
by Shadow Dragon
Symbiote Spiderman14 wrote:I would prefer other things were fixed first like missions for the beast factions or removing them all together.


Don't you know? What's best for the game as a whole is much less important than whatever the n00b of the week demands be done immediately.

Re: Re:We want Mini-cons

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:21 am
by Bun-Bun
Caelus wrote:I'm going to leave this open for now in case anyone more proficient in the game's math/coding wants to offer a more accurate/in depth explanation.

Paging Dr. Tammuz. Paging Dr. Tammuz.

Actually I worked up a nice little chart that showed how outta whack they made things but I dun lost it. :oops:
So I'll let my betters explain it proper like.
Caelus wrote: I would guess our current Admin probably doesn't know where the on switch is in the mess that he's inherited, and almost certainly doesn't have the assets to fix the errors in them. Afterall, their creator apparently couldn't knock out the bugs..
Symbiote Spiderman14 wrote:I would prefer other things were fixed first like missions for the beast factions or removing them all together.

Well since you two brought it up...

Ryans been floating around lately... any reason why Mkall isn't actually Showing as an Admin (and I assume that means he doens't actually have Admin powers yet)
OS is still showing as Admin :?

As for the beast factions, with the game meltdown disaster averted for now, why not open them up to more people?
50 per side is rediculous, espesially considering that alot of them were newbies and got scared/driven off with the game shutting down.

I really want to make the Preds work as their own faction, but if we're not going to get the proper chance to make it work I'd rather see us rolled back into the Cons as a new subfaction, at least that way we could grow our numbers.

Re: Re:We want Mini-cons

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:13 am
by Evolution Prime
I tried buying up all the useless ones (i.e. Trippledipper) and letting them get killed during the missions just to waste them. I had the energon to blow.

Guess I was never realy a fan of them

Re: Re:We want Mini-cons

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:39 am
by Uncrazzimatic
Symbiote Spiderman14 wrote:I would prefer other things were fixed first like missions for the beast factions or removing them all together.


Agreed. Gotta learn to crawl before you can learn to walk.

Re: Re:We want Mini-cons

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:22 pm
by Tammuz
i never said their was anything wrong with minicon mathmatically, other than the fact they piss all over the level brackets, which i need to add to my list of whats wrong with HMW, where a total waste of money, and poorly executed


now BOT MODES! They where screwed! cause they take endurance over 10(and that majorely **** things up


both of them together just makes brawling medics the ultimate in XP whoring answer i mean you get you'd capable of healing 99% damage in one shot, and punching/kicking of 84% per hit again....

just thank god we never got intell or endurance minicons.

Re: Re:We want Mini-cons

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:55 pm
by MasterCroc
Forget the minicons! Give me the new Alts :sad:

Re: Re:We want Mini-cons

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:13 pm
by Burn
You had a rotation a few hours ago.

Re: Re:We want Mini-cons

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:22 am
by Symbiote Spiderman14
I think he wants new Predacon alts

Re: Re:We want Mini-cons

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:27 am
by Psychout
Only if we get a flyswatter, a can of Raid and a mousetrap in return. :P

Re: Re:We want Mini-cons

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:21 pm
by MasterCroc
No I'm just agreeing with everyone who doesn't want minicons. The newer Alts Modes for everyone. I would ask for the new tactics as well but I believe the coding for those will shut down HMW for sometime. Sides I would much prefer Minicons Partners that aren't destroyed when the bot goes in to Stasis Lock.

Re: Re:We want Mini-cons

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:23 pm
by Tammuz
MasterCroc wrote: I would ask for the new tactics as well


Really?

coz you know they where just name swaps with the current tactics.

Re: Re:We want Mini-cons

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:30 pm
by Archanubis
Psychout wrote:Only if we get a flyswatter, a can of Raid and a mousetrap in return. :P

Just use your foot.

Oh, wait, I forgot, you're only three inches tall. :P

Re: Re:We want Mini-cons

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:16 pm
by Psychout
Thunderscream wrote:
Psychout wrote:Only if we get a flyswatter, a can of Raid and a mousetrap in return. :P

Just use your foot.

Oh, wait, I forgot, you're only three inches tall. :P
Still tall enough to neuter a dragon. All ill need is a rubberband and a pair of large bricks...