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losing money

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:32 am
by sunnyswipe
hey guys, im constantly losing money from mission to mission, even when im winning in the arena- anyone know if this is normal?
ill never get to upgrade my weapons at this rate! :D

Re: losing money

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:40 am
by jazzrules
If you're constantly losing energon its most likely to be the CR chamber that's doing it to you. Fighting in the arena is unlikely to get you any significant amount of energon (whereas fighting in the missions can). There are nice people out there willing to donate energon if you ask nicely, but configuring your bots so that they don't end up in the CR chamber helps as well.

Re: losing money

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:35 am
by Psychout
Put all your XP into Inteligence and Rank to unlock the secret 'n00b mode'!!

Now with added lulz features!

Re: losing money

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:44 am
by sunnyswipe
lol....yeah thanks for that :P

Re: losing money

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:51 am
by Symbiote Spiderman14
Two possible reasons I see. You have automatic CR on which cost you I think 25% more energon and you have crappy set ups.

Re: losing money

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:00 am
by sunnyswipe
i have got automatic cr set-up...didnt realise that was bad!
what do you mean about crappy set-ups?
arnt all the stats balanced?
ive tried to make all my tf's different, i dont want to start off a new character now cos my bots are level 1 (wow)lol

Re: losing money

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:10 am
by jazzrules
sunnyswipe wrote:i have got automatic cr set-up...didnt realise that was bad!
what do you mean about crappy set-ups?
arnt all the stats balanced?
ive tried to make all my tf's different, i dont want to start off a new character now cos my bots are level 1 (wow)lol


Auto CR is not always a bad thing. If you aren't busy doing stuff it is more economical to have manual CR, but if you are doing stuff it means you can come back to playing and almost always have a bot ready to fight.

As for setups, some stats are more useful than others. Take strength for example, that determines the amount of damage you do and how much armour you can have. Compare it to intelligence, which as far as I know doesn't do much, and any investment in intelligence is worthless.

Re: losing money

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:26 am
by sunnyswipe
cheers, ive been playing for a few weeks and its only the past few days ive had these problems,thanks for the info!

Re: losing money

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:05 am
by Symbiote Spiderman14
Sorry didn't mean to come off as an ass here is a good guide I think some put together viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1478
Some things I noticed you had was 0 strength and you had points in rank and without strength rank is useless I wouldn't worry about rank,or intell until later.

Strength=amount of armor you can wear,and better damage with ram and hand to hand or weapon combat.
Intell=increases the repair tactics ability.
Speed=Increase hit frequency. Increase avoid frequency.
Endurance= Increase damage absorption and increases the repair ability of the person repairing you.
Rank=Wear better armor
Courage=Increase attack frequency
Firepower:=Wield stronger weapons and strafe damage
Skill=Wield certain weapons and unlock some tactics for certain alts

increasing points in tactics increases the frequency of use
Avoid=A purely defensive move allows you to sometimes avoid weapons
Ram: A ramming attack on one target. This tactic sometime stuns the target to prevent them from executing another attack.
Repair: Repairs a teammate
Strafe: A continuous attack on one or more targets. This tactic always hits at least one opponent, and has a possibility of hitting more.

Re: losing money

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:30 am
by sunnyswipe
ah its ok, im just glad of the advice!
ive just reset bittersweet and gotten rid of his intelligence-
he'l probably spell as good as me now :P

Re: losing money

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:33 am
by Tammuz
Symbiote Spiderman14 wrote:
Strength=amount of armor you can wear,and better damage with ram and hand to hand or weapon combat.
Intell=increases the repair tactics ability.
Speed=Increase hit frequency. Increase avoid frequency.increase attack frequency
Endurance= Increase damage absorption and increases the repair ability of the person repairing you.
Rank=Wear other types of armor
Courage=Increase attack frequency
Firepower:=Wield stronger weapons and strafe damage
Skill=Wield stronger weapons and unlock some tactics for certain alts

increasing points in tactics increases the frequency of use
Avoid=A purely defensive move allows you to sometimes avoid weapons
Ram: A ramming attack on one target. This tactic sometime stuns the target to prevent them from executing another attack.
Repair: Repairs a teammate
Strafe: A continuous attack on one or more targets. This tactic always hits at least one opponent, and has a possibility of hitting more.



just a few mods just to be absolutely crystal.

Re: losing money

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:40 am
by sunnyswipe
erm..... ive just jumped from 18.610 energon to 725.136 enegon :???:
anyone heve any idea?

Re: losing money

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:41 am
by doomboy536
sunnyswipe wrote:erm..... ive just jumped from 18.610 energon to 725.136 enegon :???:
anyone heve any idea?


It's all due to the benevolence of the RNG

All hail the RNG!

*bows, then scuttles off to fetch appropriate sacrifice*

Re: losing money

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:43 am
by jazzrules
sunnyswipe wrote:erm..... ive just jumped from 18.610 energon to 725.136 enegon :???:
anyone heve any idea?


Sounds like you have made a friend with lots of energon to give away.

Re: losing money

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:44 am
by Sharpwing
jazzrules wrote:
sunnyswipe wrote:erm..... ive just jumped from 18.610 energon to 725.136 enegon :???:
anyone heve any idea?


Sounds like you have made a friend with lots of energon to give away.


That's for using that rockin' Blaster alt 8)

Re: losing money

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:49 am
by sunnyswipe
That's for using that rockin' Blaster alt

lol, a GREEN blaster alt mode!(who had strafe at one point) :D

wow, erm well, cheers to who-ever donated the energon to me!
ill invest it in ever more deadly weapons of mass des....er...peace! :grin:

Re: losing money

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:52 am
by Sharpwing
It comes with a 5% interest rate though...

And I don't accept dollars anymore :twisted:

Re: losing money

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:00 am
by sunnyswipe
ah right....cheers mate!, im english and ive never even SEEN a dollar!lol
damn, now i need to invest in firepower :P

Re: losing money

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:04 am
by Sharpwing
English, huh? Well, I guess that'll do... Pounds are actually worth something.

You'd better not support Liverpool though... :P

Re: losing money

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:08 am
by sunnyswipe
nah, im a mackem (sunderland), my grandads a liverpool fanatic though, funnily enough :D
alough i did watch the match last night, thought it was ok, (:| lol

Re: losing money

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:11 am
by City Commander
50p to your measily $1 :P (or there abouts)


Wish we got the blaster alt.

Re: losing money

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:11 am
by Sharpwing
sunnyswipe wrote:nah, im a mackem (sunderland), my grandads a liverpool fanatic though, funnily enough :D
alough i did watch the match last night, thought it was ok, (:| lol


Rafa Benitez = luckiest coach in the CL ever... ever

Re: losing money

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:12 am
by Tammuz
#sharpies a netherlander IIRC

though if it's cheaper to get another point of strafe than a point of FP it probably would be best to stick with the strafe

Re: losing money

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:20 am
by sunnyswipe
iteresting afternoon anyhow! im off home from work now, so no more hmw till friday lol
cheers for the credit and the advice!
thanks guys-later! :D

Re: losing money

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:45 pm
by Osce_Posce
Man if I knew his friend I'm broke in real life and this game...