The Energon Pub

Posted: **Fri Nov 07, 2008 5:17 am**

Hi gang!

I was wondering. If one weapon has a damage rating of "Moderate to heavy", meanwhile another weapon has the same damage rating (moderate to heavy) - BUT - that second weapon requires higher stats - which weapon is better?

More specifically, the null rifle is 0/0 with moderate to heavy damage. BUT there are other weapons we can buy with the same damage range - BUT require higher stats. Does that mean the null rifle is not as useful at the other weapons that require higher stats?

Posted: **Fri Nov 07, 2008 5:57 am**

Which one kills people the qickest?

Dunno. Guess you'll have to try it and see...

Posted: **Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:41 am**

Psychout wrote:Which one kills people the qickest?

A post from Alpha Strike.

Posted: **Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:54 am**

Psychomud wrote:Hi gang!

I was wondering. If one weapon has a damage rating of "Moderate to heavy", meanwhile another weapon has the same damage rating (moderate to heavy) - BUT - that second weapon requires higher stats - which weapon is better?

More specifically, the null rifle is 0/0 with moderate to heavy damage. BUT there are other weapons we can buy with the same damage range - BUT require higher stats. Does that mean the null rifle is not as useful at the other weapons that require higher stats?

the more stats the greater the median damage of a weapon is.

Posted: **Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:59 am**

Burn wrote:
Psychout wrote:Which one kills people the qickest?

A post from Alpha Strike.

Bite me.

Posted: **Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:06 am**

Yep, he's a Mod. The sense of humour is gone and may just be defending AS.

Posted: **Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:17 am**

Men in Black wrote:We on the HMW staff do not have a sense of humour that we are aware of.

Posted: **Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:21 am**

Now come on Psychout! That's just not true!

It's not JUST the HMW staff, it's the whole staff of this website.

Although I think I may have made Mkall laugh one time, or it could have been gas. hmmmmm .....

Posted: **Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:22 am**

how on earth did you give mkall gas?

Posted: **Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:37 am**

I didn't. He's Canadian. 'nuff said. :WHISTLE:

Posted: **Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:33 am**

Tammuz wrote:the more stats the greater the median damage of a weapon is.

Yeah, I think it has to do with the amount of possible or average damage and recharge rate. When in doubt, go for the most expensive weapon that requires the most stats to "unlock"/use.

Posted: **Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:01 pm**

Tammuz wrote:
Psychomud wrote:Hi gang!

I was wondering. If one weapon has a damage rating of "Moderate to heavy", meanwhile another weapon has the same damage rating (moderate to heavy) - BUT - that second weapon requires higher stats - which weapon is better?

More specifically, the null rifle is 0/0 with moderate to heavy damage. BUT there are other weapons we can buy with the same damage range - BUT require higher stats. Does that mean the null rifle is not as useful at the other weapons that require higher stats?

the more stats the greater the median damage of a weapon is.

And don't trust the "verbal" damage ranges to tell you which weapons do "more" damage. Just look at the stat requirements. The stated ranges will generally give you an estimate of how far above and below the median the maximum and minimum damage for the weapon are, but since the categories are so large, they aren't reliable indicators of damage.

crazyfists wrote:When in doubt, go for the most expensive weapon that requires the most stats to "unlock"/use.

Weapon price is a useless indicator. I didn't take the time to balance the prices when I reformatted the weapons this time, they just have the arbitrary price designations from years ago. I might have put in the extra hour or two to do that, but I'd forgotten what it was like to not have 12 million energon. :lol:

Posted: **Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:45 pm**

The money from weapon sales go into one or more legal or illegal off-shore account that I may or may not be holding using a fake name or a real one.

SPEND SPEND SPEND

Posted: **Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:08 pm**

crazyfists wrote:The money from weapon sales go into one or more legal or illegal off-shore account that I may or may not be holding using a fake name or a real one.

SPEND SPEND SPEND

You might want to send some of the money to your fantasy hockey team.They could use some encouragement

Posted: **Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:30 pm**

Symbiote Spiderman14 wrote:
crazyfists wrote:The money from weapon sales go into one or more legal or illegal off-shore account that I may or may not be holding using a fake name or a real one.

SPEND SPEND SPEND

You might want to send some of the money to your fantasy hockey team.They could use some encouragement

I am having the worst luck fantasy hockey wise in every league I'm playing.

Posted: **Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:38 pm**

crazyfists wrote:
Symbiote Spiderman14 wrote:
crazyfists wrote:The money from weapon sales go into one or more legal or illegal off-shore account that I may or may not be holding using a fake name or a real one.

SPEND SPEND SPEND

You might want to send some of the money to your fantasy hockey team.They could use some encouragement

I am having the worst luck fantasy hockey wise in every league I'm playing.

Pft. If I you and running an illegal offshore account funneling money from here into it I'd buy a real hockey team. And if I were me I'd buy my weight in comic books.

Posted: **Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:41 pm**

Merc With A Mouth wrote:Pft. If I you and running an illegal offshore account funneling money from here into it I'd buy a real hockey team. And if I were me I'd buy my weight in comic books.

Actually, considering how fast the weight of comic books ads up, it wouldn't really take a fortune to do that.

Unless your buying your weight in first issue pre-1950 autographed comics or something.

Or you're very heavy.

Edit: Also, are you counting the poster-card inserts and plastic dust covers?

Posted: **Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:42 pm**

AP - Friday Nov 7, 2008 - Nashville, TN. The NHL has approved the purchase of the Nashville Predators for an undisclosed amount to someone who can only be identified as Crazyfists.

Posted: **Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:43 pm**

Caelus wrote:
Merc With A Mouth wrote:Pft. If I you and running an illegal offshore account funneling money from here into it I'd buy a real hockey team. And if I were me I'd buy my weight in comic books.

Actually, considering how fast the weight of comic books ads up, it wouldn't really take a fortune to do that.

Unless your buying your weight in first issue pre-1950 autographed comics or something.

Or you're very heavy.

If I'm going to use illegal money to buy comic books you can damn well be sure they'd be expensive ones. And in reference to the very heavy comment: No u.

*edit* No. I'm not even counting the bags, boards, and long boxes to store them. But they'd be purchased as well regardless.

Posted: **Sat Nov 08, 2008 12:54 am**

Netminder wrote:AP - Friday Nov 7, 2008 - Nashville, TN. The NHL has approved the purchase of the Nashville Predators for an undisclosed amount to someone who can only be identified as Crazyfists.

You would have to be crazy to buy them.

Posted: **Sat Nov 08, 2008 11:31 am**

Caelus wrote:

Weapon price is a useless indicator. I didn't take the time to balance the prices when I reformatted the weapons this time, they just have the arbitrary price designations from years ago. I might have put in the extra hour or two to do that, but I'd forgotten what it was like to not have 12 million energon.

yeah, but that's kinda another kettle of fish, even before the energon bug hit, we had milionaires and people stuck in the red. and that makes things very hard to balance nicely.

i would suggest you read [url]this[/url] prior to spending anytime balancing the weapon costs

in the mean time bewtween when OS redoes the weapons system (it needs doing) and then i think a viable stop gap would be;

Energon Cost = ([FRPr*SKL]/[recharge rate])*1000

of course we have the big problem that as long as brawling is how it is, newbs are forced to have a weapon, and the SR weaponry has a much greater disadvantage.

that's why i was Haranguing OS to remove the eponential in its mechanic, and why i as so adamant that all weapons become NR.

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