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FACTS - HMW2 Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:41 pm
by Omega Sentinel
Defintion of "Code Freeze" in Wikipedia:
No changes whatsoever are permitted to a portion or the entirety of the program's source code. Particularly in large software systems, any change to the source code may have unintended consequences, potentially introducing new bugs; thus, a code freeze helps ensure that a portion of the program that is known to work correctly will continue to do so. Code freezes are often employed in the final stages of development, when a particular release or iteration is being tested, but may also be used to prevent changes to one portion of a program while another is undergoing development.



Here are the facts:
FACT 1: HMW is under a code freeze because:
1. It takes valuable time away to make any changes
2. You typically freeze applications when a newer release
is replacing it

FACT 2: HMW2 is being developed.

FACT 3: HMW2 is being written completely from scratch.

FACT 4: HMW2 will replace HMW

FACT 5: HMW2 is about 60% done with the game engine nearly complete so yes ladies and gents, this is DEFINITELY happening.

FACT 6: HMW2 will be launched in the Spring.

FACT 7, 8, 9, 10: Gestalts? Triplechangers? Triple Wielding Weapons? More Alts, Tactics, Bots, Missions, Possibilities?.....Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes.

FACT 11: Automatic Tournaments, Stats Tracking, Reporting, Alt Hunts? Yes.

FACT 12: ANY of the current bugs? No. Any new ones? Hopefully not, but if so, much more fixable than the mess we have now.

FACT 13: Most people will love it and a few people will hate it. That is something the staff is ready to live with.


Now...I'm sure that this thread will launch a huge discussion and a "I hate OS" rant so I'll leave you all to it. My Christmas present to you will be a proper preview.

Re: FACTS

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:51 pm
by Loki God Of Mischief
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Thanks for being honest with us OS. I for one would like to applaud you for it. However a lot of us have come to love this version of the game. Can we have a proper send off for it? And can improvements be made to it before spring? Perhaps by Glyph?

You said yourself that HMW 2 will be all new coding. So unless there's a coding issue (not a coder or a programmer so forgive my ignorance) it wouldn't actually hurt to let Glyph tinker with it. At least to do fixes and patches.

Re: FACTS

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:53 pm
by Redimus
Nope. No "I hate OS"s here.

This is exactly what I was asking for. Thank you very much for telling us what's what.

I look forward to seeing V2.

Re: FACTS

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:38 pm
by Black Eyes
Wow......

Great news thanks OS :APPLAUSE:

A preview too very interesting =P~

Re: FACTS

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:16 pm
by Omega Charge
Black Eyes wrote:Wow......

Great news thanks OS :APPLAUSE:

A preview too very interesting =P~


Hadn't seen you in a while, welcome back.


Anyway, thanks for the info. I'll enjoy V2, whether I want to or not. 8)

Re: FACTS

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:22 pm
by alf the explorer
Thanks for the info OS. I will be waiting eagerly for the preview.

Re: FACTS

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:29 pm
by The Chronic
Good news!

I Need to get that #1 headband before spring

Re: FACTS

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:31 pm
by Black Eyes
Omega Charge wrote:
Black Eyes wrote:Wow......

Great news thanks OS :APPLAUSE:

A preview too very interesting =P~


Hadn't seen you in a while, welcome back.


Anyway, thanks for the info. I'll enjoy V2, whether I want to or not. 8)


Thanks OC

And I see you've gone back to the Cons....at least you didn't go Bot :mrgreen:

Re: FACTS

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:32 pm
by nightelfcrawler
I've seen so much negativity lately that I feel the need to break my usual form of lurking and staying out of verbal battles.

OS, you rock. Don't let anyone else tell you otherwise. As being a rather new joinee to the community, only having been here for about 7 months, I have enjoyed this game so much that I go through withdrawl when I don't get to play, when family comes into town I worry about how much I'm missing. It's an addiction I've come to love, and I know you and the other staff spend long hard hours putting precious time and resources into a completely FREE game that is done simply for the love of it, with no gain other than the feeling of having done something great for TF fans.

I think people need to realize this. Whatever personal grudges or issues you have, what would happen if the game went away because the developer and one who runs it got so fed up of the flack he was taking? Come on, back off. Enjoy the game! I would have given up long ago if I had to listen to half the crap being tossed his way. I don't know the backstory, I don't care to know it. I just think that everyone who runs this game is damn awesome for writing it, hosting it, and providing it to us.

So bravo. I look forward to V2 with baited breath sure that it will be every bit more exciting than V1.

Re: FACTS

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:33 pm
by Loki God Of Mischief
chronic wrote:Good news!

I Need to get that #1 headband before spring


You better be ready for a fight if you're looking for Justice boy.

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Re: FACTS

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:33 pm
by Omega Charge
Black Eyes wrote:Thanks OC

And I see you've gone back to the Cons....at least you didn't go Bot

Doubt that would happen. :P


chronic wrote:Good news!

I Need to get that #1 headband before spring


Yeah, so who's gonna stop playing till then? :-P

Re: FACTS

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:36 pm
by Absolute Zero
That is awesome.

Re: FACTS

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:43 pm
by Loki God Of Mischief
Absolute Zero wrote:That is awesome.


Dude I know. Afro Samurai kicked ass and Ron Perelman as Justice was the icing on the cake. Oh and HMW 2 sounds pretty awesome too I guess. :P

Re: FACTS

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:55 pm
by Chaoslock
So, 2009 spring: TFA: 3rd season, HMW2, MP Grimlock, Star Trek movie... Need to find a hibernating chamber till then...

Re: FACTS

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:58 pm
by Absolute Zero
Merc With A Mouth wrote:
Absolute Zero wrote:That is awesome.


Dude I know. Afro Samurai kicked ass and Ron Perelman as Justice was the icing on the cake. Oh and HMW 2 sounds pretty awesome too I guess. :P


Huh? HMW 2? What? Oh... yeah. Pretty sweet too.

Re: FACTS

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:18 pm
by slip
Thanks for the facts OS, I'll pateintly await v2 while enjoying v1.8.

Re: FACTS

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:51 pm
by Mogwai Prime
Merc With A Mouth wrote:You said yourself that HMW 2 will be all new coding. So unless there's a coding issue (not a coder or a programmer so forgive my ignorance) it wouldn't actually hurt to let Glyph tinker with it. At least to do fixes and patches.


OS has stated that there is a code freeze on HMWv1. This will not change as V2 will be replacing it.

Re: FACTS

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:02 pm
by Archanubis
Omega Sentinel wrote:Triple Wielding Weapons?

May I ask if this feature will be limited by how much we invest into Firepower? For example, if a bot has 3 FRP, the player can choose to use a combination of three 1FRP weapons, one 3FRP weapon, or one 1FRP and one 2FRP weapon - but not all these combinations at once?

Re: FACTS

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:44 pm
by Nickolai
The burning question -

Do we keep our current characters at current levels when HMW2 comes out, or is it another start from scratch? :sad:

Re: FACTS

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:49 pm
by Absolute Zero
Since it's a new game and new code, I'd wager a no, another start from scratch.

Re: FACTS

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:50 pm
by Editor
I hope we don't lose some players from the current build if they don't see a future in it.

Re: FACTS

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:55 pm
by Redimus
Nickolai wrote:The burning question -

Do we keep our current characters at current levels when HMW2 comes out, or is it another start from scratch? :sad:


This, children, is a textbook example of a 'silly question'

Re: FACTS

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:59 pm
by Omega Sentinel
Fearless Echoes wrote:
Nickolai wrote:The burning question -

Do we keep our current characters at current levels when HMW2 comes out, or is it another start from scratch? :sad:


This, children, is a textbook example of a 'silly question'

New Code. New Database. New game Engine. ummm....yeah

Re: FACTS

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:03 pm
by Absolute Zero
Omega Sentinel wrote:
Fearless Echoes wrote:
Nickolai wrote:The burning question -

Do we keep our current characters at current levels when HMW2 comes out, or is it another start from scratch? :sad:


This, children, is a textbook example of a 'silly question'

New Code. New Database. New game Engine. ummm....yeah


Something we've all been prepared for for a long time. Just to bad Ike didn't hit next year.

Re: FACTS

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:03 pm
by Loki God Of Mischief
Easy come, easy go. So is this version going to be retired forever then? If so can we please have an offical send off tournament?