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The curious case of WTF?!?!

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:11 am
by Urzu Six
So, I gots a Maximal who's one upgrade a way from being in LVL 1. I send him in to fight a 'Con with no upgrades, and my dude gets pwnd. How did that happen? :sad:

Re: The curious case of WTF?!?!

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:24 am
by Wingspan
Mission / Arena link? Will help give a specific answer. General answer is we play a game with a random number generator behind it; sometimes bad / good things just happen.

Re: The curious case of WTF?!?!

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:40 am
by Psychout
Wingspan pretty much covered it; weird **** happens at the lower levels, as 3 stats does give you an advantage but wont guarantee you the win, looks like you just lucked out buddy.

Just to be sure though - you have put your stats in either courage, strength, speed or a tactic - right?

Re: The curious case of WTF?!?!

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:34 pm
by Urzu Six
Yup, Strength and Tactics. I'm keeping an eye out for this dude again though... I will have vengeance!

Re: The curious case of WTF?!?!

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:36 pm
by Editor
Weird stuff happens under a random system as this game is based on. How else can you explain http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... n_id=41706.

A level 3, and 5 level 2s, beaten by one 3, one 2, three 1s and a 0.

Re: The curious case of WTF?!?!

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:25 pm
by Wingspan
Editor wrote:Weird stuff happens under a random system as this game is based on. How else can you explain http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... n_id=41706.

A level 3, and 5 level 2s, beaten by one 3, one 2, three 1s and a 0.

Bad example. Every Con build in that mission was inefficient for their given XP for the following reasons (not every reason applies to every Con, of course).

-- Overall low damage output
-- Weapons not equipped to use the stats (FP / SKL) that were purchased
-- Lacked actions through Courage
-- Too defensive and/or relied too much on Avoid
-- Stats did not always appropriately back tactics

Yes, the Random Number Generator will cause things to blow up sometimes; it however cannot compensate for "lacking raw material" to help you win. Sorry if that frankness offends, but that collection of Cons running up against that collection of Autobots with Speed / Courage / Avoid / Null-Rifle builds (and their ancestors) just didn't stand a chance even with Overlord as heavy damage and Windcon as heavy diversion.

However, if this is how Cons are playing these days, can the Predacon / Decepticon mission ratio please be turned up? We could use some more Level 3s to target :P

Re: The curious case of WTF?!?!

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:32 pm
by devast8or
Psychout wrote:Wingspan pretty much covered it; weird **** happens at the lower levels, as 3 stats does give you an advantage but wont guarantee you the win, looks like you just lucked out buddy.

Just to be sure though - you have put your stats in either courage, strength, speed or a tactic - right?

Psychout, I'm disappointed in you...make sure you let him know about super secret stealth mode. :roll:

Re: The curious case of WTF?!?!

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:01 pm
by Wingspan
devast8or wrote:
Psychout wrote:Wingspan pretty much covered it; weird **** happens at the lower levels, as 3 stats does give you an advantage but wont guarantee you the win, looks like you just lucked out buddy.

Just to be sure though - you have put your stats in either courage, strength, speed or a tactic - right?

Psychout, I'm disappointed in you...make sure you let him know about super secret stealth mode. :roll:

That's only for Autobots; Maximals lost that ability. Maximals have super secret sneaky mode (powered by Rank) and the Bots have stealth (powered by Intelligence).

However, shame on us all for not properly greeting the newb.

CAUTION: HMW CONTAINS NUTS!!!

Twice in one week for me... is that greeting too old hat?

Re: The curious case of WTF?!?!

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:23 pm
by Psychout
Wingspan wrote:
Editor wrote:Weird stuff happens under a random system as this game is based on. How else can you explain http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... n_id=41706.

A level 3, and 5 level 2s, beaten by one 3, one 2, three 1s and a 0.

Bad example

...I wasnt in that mission. Image




And Dev, I must admit I chuckle every time I see that in your sig. :lol:

Re: The curious case of WTF?!?!

PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:28 am
by neliz
Editor wrote:Weird stuff happens under a random system as this game is based on. How else can you explain http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... n_id=41706.

A level 3, and 5 level 2s, beaten by one 3, one 2, three 1s and a 0.

Because the bots in there were pure win? my L2 has more XP :P

Re: The curious case of WTF?!?!

PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:13 am
by Nickolai
OP: This happens all the time, especially in the Arena. Underdog Syndrome.