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So where are the level 4's then?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:55 am
by Psychout
C'mon, own up.

You guys wanted L2-4 misisons so you can expand into L4 and how many do we have?

TWO.

Was there a point to us making these missions or do you just to see like us wasting our time? :lol:

Re: So where are the level 4's then?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:06 am
by Evolution Prime
Pretty sure those who have the capability to make Level 4s left them as Level 3s so they can still use them. :P

Re: So where are the level 4's then?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:08 am
by Psychout
This missions have been made, weeks ago.
They spawn automatically when an L4 is active.

Im just wondering what the delay is.

Re: So where are the level 4's then?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:14 am
by The Chronic
The point Psychout was making is that they have gone to the trouble to make the Lv 4 missions yet people aren't upgrading their bots

I say we should shun those who can but are not upgrading :P

Re: So where are the level 4's then?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:15 am
by Evolution Prime
Could be no other commanders are able to make them? Could be that they don't want the rest of HMW using them as xp generators. I don't know man. I'm still at Level 1. :(

Re: So where are the level 4's then?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:21 am
by Deephaze
half my bots 2 the rest are nearing level 2, i'd be happy to make a level 4 if I could.

I do know those 2-4 missions are being used. Seems like half the missions I see are 2-4 when my level 2s are active. I'm kinda happy I'm only fighting other 2s/3s in those instead of fighting a bunch of level 4s but maybe thats just me.

Re: So where are the level 4's then?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:27 am
by Psychout
Evolution Prime wrote:I don't know man. I'm still at Level 1. :(
Yeah, Im still at L2 and could do with some bigger targets.


This is not to start a flame war or to admonish anyone (ill close it up faster than crazyfists on a weekend padlock bender if it does), I'm just curious what the delay is, we've got L3's with over a million xp out there.

Surely they could be making more and helping their team mates out by levelling up?

Re: So where are the level 4's then?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:11 pm
by Chaoslock
Well, the cheapest config for level 4 is 678K, I'm still at 442K with my top bot, and the Top 22 would be able at the moment to be level 4.

Re: So where are the level 4's then?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:19 pm
by Wingspan
Chaoslock wrote:Well, the cheapest config for level 4 is 678K, I'm still at 442K with my top bot, and the Top 22 would be able at the moment to be level 4.

That's a very good point, let's go one step further.

861,500xp Medium Vehicle wrote:8 STR / 5 SPD / 3 END / 4 CRG / 5 AVD / 7 RAM

824,000xp Fighter wrote:2 STR / 6 SPD / 3 END / 4 CRG / 5 FP / 6 AVD / 6 STF


There are two Level 4 builds at reasonable XP for the top characters. Obviously more XP makes these even stronger and these builds are not just barely making it to Level 4, they are optimized given the current game and to use XP as efficiently as possible.

So, there's the gauntlet; who's got the bolts?

Re: So where are the level 4's then?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:21 pm
by Burn
Evolution Prime wrote:I'm still at Level 1. :(


Good to see some people got back to where they were pre-reset. :P

Re: So where are the level 4's then?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:54 pm
by Absolute Zero
Good to see I'm not the only one wondering where the 4s are. :grin:

Re: So where are the level 4's then?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:38 pm
by Darth Trader
I'm more than happy to upgrade some of mine to level 4's. However, I am not going to leave them as open XP targets for those around me who are choosing to throttle theirs.

Most of the entire top 25 Cons/bots can all upgrade to level 4, minimum.

So, When RoS, Conjourous, Silverbolt, RKO Level up, I'll be glad to do so as well. It would be foolish of me to level all mine up alone to serve as XP fodder with which the aforementioned players could use to climb over me with. :grin:

More to the point, the level 2-4 missions are still serving their purpose. They are providing more evenly matched missions.

Re: So where are the level 4's then?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:48 pm
by Absolute Zero
I'm sure if you stepped up to be a leader, and show them that level 4 isn't something to be afraid of, they'd follow suit, or we'd just make fun of them until they did too. :grin:

Re: So where are the level 4's then?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:03 pm
by Darth Trader
Absolute Zero wrote:I'm sure if you stepped up to be a leader, and show them that level 4 isn't something to be afraid of, they'd follow suit, or we'd just make fun of them until they did too. :grin:


Yep, that's one way it could go down... :P

Or, all the players with the ability to level up to level 4 can publicly agree to all level up. I'd sign that pact. :)

Re: So where are the level 4's then?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:08 pm
by Psychout
There a lotta trust here isnt there? :lol:

Re: So where are the level 4's then?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:10 pm
by The Chronic
What your saying makes sense GS but they could say the same thing,
really as the top player in the game you should go first, not to mention you're so far ahead of everyone else it would be silly to worry about them climbing over you

Re: So where are the level 4's then?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:15 pm
by Redimus
Im, sorry, but that's a load of bull...

Yes, beign a level 4, you'll give others more xp, but so what? It's a petty minded player who goes, 'Im gonna stifle my team's growth just to hold back others'. Simple fact is, with the tiny number of level 4s right now, anybody who goes level 4 *has* to have an advantage, becuase they have more stats than virtully anybody else they will meet.

I know, for a fact, if I had the xp, I would be level 4.
You have braged on and on about how awesome you are, prove it. Stop bragging about missions where your tfs with bountiful xp crush tfs with a fraction of that xp, and grow some balls.
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Re: So where are the level 4's then?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:29 pm
by Psychout
Psychout wrote:This is not to start a flame war or to admonish anyone (ill close it up faster than crazyfists on a weekend padlock bender if it does)
I meant this. This is a discussion, not an argument, no more outbursts like that please.

GS, you do realise that as the highest ranked of all the players they are probably just waiting for you to level up so they have a challenge... :lol:

So, anyway, is anyone alse within the top 25 willing to step up to GS's challenge?

Re: So where are the level 4's then?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:45 pm
by Darth Trader
I leveled a couple more up just now. That ought to get the ball rolling... :grin:

Re: So where are the level 4's then?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:55 pm
by The Chronic
A couple more is better than none but why not just uprade all of them?

Re: So where are the level 4's then?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:07 pm
by Psychout
Galvatron Supreme wrote:I leveled a couple more up just now. That ought to get the ball rolling... :grin:


Good work dude. Believe me when I say Id love to be back up there with you. :lol:

Now, lets hope the rest follow suit.

Re: So where are the level 4's then?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:09 pm
by ashe5k
What is this mystical level 4 you speak of? I'll be happy if I can get all my bots to level 3 before V2 comes out. :P

Re: So where are the level 4's then?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:21 pm
by Darth Trader
Chronic wrote:A couple more is better than none but why not just uprade all of them?


Well, for one, not all are eligible to upgrade. Some builds are more costly than others...

Re: So where are the level 4's then?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:30 pm
by The Chronic
fair do's then

now to start nagging at the others...

Re: So where are the level 4's then?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:36 pm
by Absolute Zero
How expensive is Buzzsaw's build when you're leveling up ones below him with the same alt modes? :shock: