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Feeling frustrated with your mission(s), amongst numerous other things? Come on in, this is definitely your place to vent.


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My frustration is watching a number of missions that are lost before they start when people throw their guys into missions they don't have a chance of winning.

I love putting my guys in, and then watch a bunch of lvl 1's get involved when the other side has already filled half their rank with much higher players.

I know you want to get your guys out there, but look at the missions before you choose them or you are asking for a loss, and dragging your teammates with you.

Editor wrote:My frustration is watching a number of missions that are lost before they start when people throw their guys into missions they don't have a chance of winning.

I love putting my guys in, and then watch a bunch of lvl 1's get involved when the other side has already filled half their rank with much higher players.

I know you want to get your guys out there, but look at the missions before you choose them or you are asking for a loss, and dragging your teammates with you.

So... basically, you're fustrated that people are playing the game, and not playing it as much, or for as long, as you are. Two things wrong with this. You could either not join the cross level missions that go below your level, and then be doing the same thing you're complaining about. But, maybe these are the only missions showing for you... Maybe they're the only missions showing for them too.

Absolute Zero wrote:
So... basically, you're fustrated that people are playing the game, and not playing it as much, or for as long, as you are. Two things wrong with this. You could either not join the cross level missions that go below your level, and then be doing the same thing you're complaining about. But, maybe these are the only missions showing for you... Maybe they're the only missions showing for them too.

Not at all AZ, and thanks for misunderstanding enough that I need to explain further. In fact I'm glad to see that people are actually playing, and I'm happy to help newer players, I just wish that some players where looking at missions and seeing what is already happening before they blindly click in.

In the case of the 1-11 mission that is available for example, I have seen times when the autobots already have a lvl 5, a few lvl 4 maybe a single lvl 1, where the top 'cons are Lvl 4 or 3, and after the autobot 5 has joined 2-4 lvl 1 cons all jump in. The rewards for winning that mission may be great if you are on the winning side, but for those players they could do better with joining lvl1-2 or 1-3 missions. In missions with larger lvl ranges is is very easy for the battle to be tipped on the inclution of 1 or 2 players at either end of the lvl range.

As for my joining them, I do and will continue to, because if I can help raise the chances for my side I will. This isn't a matter of being better, (which i'm not) or playing longer than others, It's a matter of wanting my side to perform better and not throw missions that can be won, simply because the reward (which only comes if you win) is better than the missions open to higher bots, and players looking more at that than who else is going into the fight.

Of course I completely agree with you on the matter of what missions are available, and that is something none of us have any control over. however this is something i have noticed when there are plenty of missions showing as well, and maybe I don't see exactly what they see, but It does happen when there are choices available.

Editor wrote:

Absolute Zero wrote:
So... basically, you're fustrated that people are playing the game, and not playing it as much, or for as long, as you are. Two things wrong with this. You could either not join the cross level missions that go below your level, and then be doing the same thing you're complaining about. But, maybe these are the only missions showing for you... Maybe they're the only missions showing for them too.

Not at all AZ, and thanks for misunderstanding enough that I need to explain further. In fact I'm glad to see that people are actually playing, and I'm happy to help newer players, I just wish that some players where looking at missions and seeing what is already happening before they blindly click in.

In the case of the 1-11 mission that is available for example, I have seen times when the autobots already have a lvl 5, a few lvl 4 maybe a single lvl 1, where the top 'cons are Lvl 4 or 3, and after the autobot 5 has joined 2-4 lvl 1 cons all jump in. The rewards for winning that mission may be great if you are on the winning side, but for those players they could do better with joining lvl1-2 or 1-3 missions. In missions with larger lvl ranges is is very easy for the battle to be tipped on the inclution of 1 or 2 players at either end of the lvl range.

As for my joining them, I do and will continue to, because if I can help raise the chances for my side I will. This isn't a matter of being better, (which i'm not) or playing longer than others, It's a matter of wanting my side to perform better and not throw missions that can be won, simply because the reward (which only comes if you win) is better than the missions open to higher bots, and players looking more at that than who else is going into the fight.

Of course I completely agree with you on the matter of what missions are available, and that is something none of us have any control over. however this is something i have noticed when there are plenty of missions showing as well, and maybe I don't see exactly what they see, but It does happen when there are choices available.

Glad I could misunderstand it enough that you had to explain it. Better me than someone who took it seriously and started an arguement right?

I understand your arguement about the 1-11s, and it's why I don't look for them with my top guys anymore, the average pay out for them has gone down for me. Really though, that's the same problem we had with the 1-11s in the first place. A level 1 doesn't be long in a mission against someone level 4 or higher. They have absolutely no chance in hell. I know the arguement is "If they can scratch them, then they'll make more exp then they will in any fight at against level 1s." but how often is a level 1 able to scratch a level 4? But my arguement isn't for this thread... Sorry guys.

ouch

Well, I'll be frank. It's not like it was a long time ago.

Yes, Frigid had it coming for being a lv 1 pest... but I'm also crazy-suicidal. The ol Suicide Squad pride and all.

Frustrated NEVER. i take what the RNG gives me, and like it.
now about that Suicide Squad , that brings back fond memories of one sided battles in the past, if ya play a lot or on non-flooded times, Suicide is the case. thats a fact for this game.

If a lvl 1 uses the few stats it has correctly, they CAN scratch a lvl 4.

If it's that much of a problem we just need to coerce the newer players to ask for help with the configs and make the more experianced players more accessible to them.

Bloodlust wrote:If a lvl 1 uses the few stats it has correctly, they CAN scratch a lvl 4.

If it's that much of a problem we just need to coerce the newer players to ask for help with the configs and make the more experianced players more accessible to them.

I honestly think the bots problems aren't from configs. Most of the time when there are missions with 3 cons and no bots, there are about 8-15 bots (from 5 or more different teams) waiting in the arena, when they could fill the missions and outnumber the cons.

Neo Crusader wrote:

Bloodlust wrote:If a lvl 1 uses the few stats it has correctly, they CAN scratch a lvl 4.

If it's that much of a problem we just need to coerce the newer players to ask for help with the configs and make the more experianced players more accessible to them.

I honestly think the bots problems aren't from configs. Most of the time when there are missions with 3 cons and no bots, there are about 8-15 bots (from 5 or more different teams) waiting in the arena, when they could fill the missions and outnumber the cons.

Probably would help if we could get the forums going again, and bring people back. Maybe someone could news something, or get something into the HMW header with the quotes/last 24 hours bot vs con things.

Absolute Zero wrote:

Neo Crusader wrote:

Bloodlust wrote:If a lvl 1 uses the few stats it has correctly, they CAN scratch a lvl 4.

If it's that much of a problem we just need to coerce the newer players to ask for help with the configs and make the more experianced players more accessible to them.

I honestly think the bots problems aren't from configs. Most of the time when there are missions with 3 cons and no bots, there are about 8-15 bots (from 5 or more different teams) waiting in the arena, when they could fill the missions and outnumber the cons.

Probably would help if we could get the forums going again, and bring people back. Maybe someone could news something, or get something into the HMW header with the quotes/last 24 hours bot vs con things.

Yeah, having the forums alive again would probably help.

We should put hints on the top of the page like they do in MW2 while a match is loading

I think you'd have less of a flood of lvl 1's if we had lvl 0-1 missions like there used to be, more often than not the only missions available for level 1's are the 1-3 and then 1-11.

Bristleback wrote:I think you'd have less of a flood of lvl 1's if we had lvl 0-1 missions like there used to be, more often than not the only missions available for level 1's are the 1-3 and then 1-11.

I see more 1, 1-2, and 1-3 than 1-11, but that's just me. Meh..

On topic: You're off your game, girlfriends.

Phasewing wrote:

Bristleback wrote:I think you'd have less of a flood of lvl 1's if we had lvl 0-1 missions like there used to be, more often than not the only missions available for level 1's are the 1-3 and then 1-11.

I see more 1, 1-2, and 1-3 than 1-11, but that's just me. Meh..

I find mostly 1-3 then about a third less frequently to the 1-11 and the others are even rarer, I also tend to find that when I need to spawn a new mission I mostly get given a 1-3.

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You know what frustrates me is that I haven't had a good argument with Burn in over a year. Hopefully he has been busy with other peoples nonsense instead of mine Its good to be a BOT

We may have lost this one (and only just), but damn it we put up a great fight! Especially since it was four lvl 2 'Bots against one lvl 2 and 3 lvl 1 'Cons.

This mission, also, made me pull a funny face. So bloody close!

I'm level 1 right now i must agree that most missions generated by mission generator are
1-3 or 1-11 hardly any 1-2.

I would like to see more 1-2 missions and the return of 0-1 missions

I'm not having an issue in finding 1-2 missions... may just be a time of day situation.

and yhea it looks like even when the ability to work on missions return that we likely won't be see 0-1 missions any time soon.

Naval Strike wrote:I'm level 1 right now i must agree that most missions generated by mission generator are
1-3 or 1-11 hardly any 1-2.

I would like to see more 1-2 missions and the return of 0-1 missions

The 1-11's are N_V's fault. Go abuse him.

As for 0-1? Not going to happen. 0's are not going to be in cross level missions any more.

Though it's all moot as no one can actually change missions anyway.

Burn wrote:As for 0-1? Not going to happen. 0's are not going to be in cross level missions any more.

Completely ok with that. I'm having a tough enough time as it is with just level 0 missions, I would hate to have level 1s thrown in the mix.

My only frustration is that it is taking forever to get any of my Bots to level 1, but that will be fixed with time and lots of game play

i reached level one for my namesake in one month but i got no social life
i wish i was level 10 again... a topscore for me now is 1000xp instead of 10.000xp

Naval Strike wrote:i reached level one for my namesake in one month but i got no social life
i wish i was level 10 again... a topscore for me now is 1000xp instead of 10.000xp

Heck I would be trilled for a top score of 300xp right now