The Energon Pub

Would it be illegal or against the rules to start an armor / weapons thread that discussed the experiences of items?

For example:
Level 0
Aluminum -- Barely any reduction
Iron -- Fairly good reduction

Level 1
Steel -- Slightly better than iron, but not much
Ceramic -- About the same as steel, however does not effect speed / attack rolls as much.

What could possibly be illegal about it?

Well I was not sure if it was some un-written fight club rule like "You shall not discuss HMW mechanics"

_Anshin_ wrote:Well I was not sure if it was some un-written fight club rule like "You shall not discuss HMW mechanics"

I am open to any armor and weapons information Autobots have discovered. Please divulge.

_Anshin_ wrote:Well I was not sure if it was some un-written fight club rule like "You shall not discuss HMW mechanics"

If that where the case then all the keen would've been banned years ago. Actually most of this game has been reversed engineered at one point or another.
Armour has always been hard to narrow down. First it's hard to get a relibale pool of data. I suggest at least 50 samples to determine your averages from.
Secondly this is key. You need a comsistent setup to fight.
In my opinon the best way to run armour tests is the, can't beleive i said this but the arena. You need your punching bag to run with no spd no crg armour plus str. In my opinion 5 end to as i'm in the group that thinks there is a damage penalty for end < 5. The attaker should have 0 str 0 frp a weapon or attack that does a consistent range of damage. Say for instance a unarmoured hit scores 19-23. Then added armour makes it 21-18, over the course of your sample pool you can determine your medain average. Just as a final say i think the armour equation is fairly complicated, lot of variables to accept, oh and i just happen to think there is a unkown variable that influences this.
One final note if i get reprimanded for talking mechanics, i'm comin to your house Anshin. Burn

Hey Slip, If you want we can run this test together some time this weekend. I will pay for your repairs.

_Anshin_ wrote:Hey Slip, If you want we can run this test together some time this weekend. I will pay for your repairs.

I'd be down but i'm to incosistent on my play times. My best advice is to look at your logs, the cons you see on a regular are your best people to talk too. I'll help out what i can review data run numbers. Look 4 factions had one good point, con could test on pred or vice versa. Also talk to even in pm some of the older bots. Autobot saviuor maybe.

AZ doesn't play much anymore so there's no point looking to the Autobot Saviour.

I am on mostly during the week and then sporadically on the weekends. The problem is that I don't know of any cons that are high enough to be able to test the armor section. By my calculations it would cost 1,147,000 xp to do a bot with no alt form. I would need to attack 10x per level of strength (1-5) to determine the average rate of damage per each level then do the deviation between levels. If you know of any bored cons that are willing to do this please let me know. I would sacrifice my bots, but the only problem is that I don't have a single bot that has that much XP. If you guys know of anyone that is wiling to help please PM me.

I have an average play time from roughly 8am to 6pm est M-F (work) and then depending on classes I am good to play from (7-12) M-F. Saturday and Sunday are hit or miss as I do most of my volunteer work on those days and then relax at night.

_Anshin_ wrote:I have an average play time from roughly 8am to 6pm est M-F (work) and then depending on classes I am good to play from (7-12) M-F. Saturday and Sunday are hit or miss as I do most of my volunteer work on those days and then relax at night.

I find your lack of commitment disturbing.

I know. I will try harder I promise

I am sure you can find a few of us with XP enough for what you need. Some of us play often, just don't have time to sit and calculate.

The calculations are easy for me to do. I am writing the code for a logging application as we speak that will allow me to monitor a bot of my choice. If all goes well with my code it will automatically take the fight logs and drop them into an excel spreadsheet that all I have to do is look at the numbers and figure out the damage absorption ratios.

And here I have been logging XP gain by hand for years now. :P Eh I have no real coding skills. So if it works then you can track any bot?

Theoretically it should as long as I go in and code the bot in.

I guess I could draft one up based upon the user logged in and try to work off of the missions since it would only be 6 timers, however I would have to figure out a few other things. I will start on a new module shortly and then release it to the HMW community if you would be interested in something similar.

If you like I can email you or something my sheet so you know what's been done, perhaps it would help you decide which way you would like to go with it.


Yes I would. I used to do a XP count weekly for those that were playing a small game, counted highest kill of the week, most XP gained, and whatnot.

I don't want to thread jack this post so stay tuned for a new post.

_Anshin_ wrote:The calculations are easy for me to do. I am writing the code for a logging application as we speak that will allow me to monitor a bot of my choice. If all goes well with my code it will automatically take the fight logs and drop them into an excel spreadsheet that all I have to do is look at the numbers and figure out the damage absorption ratios.

Oh good, another one who says they can code ... nice knowing you.

What does that mean?

Basically, when you start leaving the house you should let someone know where you're going and how long you expect to be gone for.

People who can do computer coding and play HMW have a tendency to disappear without notice for extended periods of time.

Burn wrote:Basically, when you start leaving the house you should let someone know where you're going and how long you expect to be gone for.

People who can do computer coding and play HMW have a tendency to disappear without notice for extended periods of time.

This works out great for me considering I just had a nasty split with my fiance so I have pretty much come back to HMW to get away from the outside world. Last time I was around was just before the reset. I remember asking how to get on the development team here and sending an email to Ryan, however I did not have all of the necessary skills to join. I have since rectified that (Masters) but now I am going for a new masters so I have to find a sense of distraction from the work/home/school thing.

If I do plan on taking an extended break I will make sure to post it and PM you a few times. If I die before then I will try to track you down and haunt you till you can promote my characters to full 10 stats in honor of my death.

lol Haunting Awesome.

He reads, he replies, just not to all. Who knows how many he gets a day anyway.