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Advice on purchasing KO toys

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:08 am
by william-james88
Hey guys,

This will be my first time buying KOs and I wanted to know if any of you had feedback on the following 3:

Abominus g1 V2

Abominus Prime upscaled

And both Liokaisers, dont know which is better between the bigger and smaller one.

Are any of these sheer crap I should stay away from? That's pretty much my question.

Re: Advice on purchasing KO toys

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:19 pm
by Rated X
The KO upsized Abominus is an awesome figure in its own right and well worth the $19.99 plus shipping I paid for it. That doesn’t mean he is without his flaws. But still an awesome figure that displays what Hasbro could have and should have done.

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Pros:

*Deluxe scale figures – legends scale sucks

*Scales great with 3rd party combiners

*Awesome Takara color scheme (It’s not G1 Abominus so why even be his colors ?)


Cons:

*Simplified Hun-Grr (only Abominus head, No Hun-Grr head)

*A little loose (what KO isn’t)

*Blot is orange (original red plastic was deemed brittle by factory, was re-cast in orange)


I also own the Liokaiser KO. There are 3 different sizes and the one I own is the original vintage scale. Im not sure if thats the small or medium one in Sirtoy's picture because I bought him from the now defunct KOToys. You can tell the figures are simplified and the individual bot modes heads look like crap. But the combined mode is accurate to the vintage toy in shape and color scheme. With the original selling anywhere between $800-1500, you cant go wrong with this KO for 15 bucks. I wish they would do a high quality KO or reissue of LioKaiser for $50-70, but then the vintage crowd would start whining when the value of the original drops.

Re: Advice on purchasing KO toys

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:25 pm
by william-james88
Rated X wrote:
I also own the Liokaiser KO. There are 3 different sizes and the one I own is the original vintage scale. Im not sure if thats the small or medium one in Sirtoy's picture because I bought him from the now defunct KOToys. You can tell the figures are simplified and the individual bot modes heads look like crap. But the combined mode is accurate to the vintage toy in shape and color scheme. With the original selling anywhere between $800-1500, you cant go wrong with this KO for 15 bucks. I wish they would do a high quality KO or reissue of LioKaiser for $50-70, but then the vintage crowd would start whining when the value of the original drops.


I think for sir toys, that would be the scale called "scale". He sticks together well in combined mode?

Also, I agree they should release the original again as well as the other G1 toys north america didnt get (like Overlord and Thunderclash). The prices might go down, but then again its happened before and happens whenever MP-10 gets rereleased. Its simple demand and supply, no need to whine.

And just making sure, your Liokaiser also has the wrong arm right? I know it should be a jet but it seems they gave him another alt mode instead.

Re: Advice on purchasing KO toys

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:14 pm
by Tsutsukakushi
In the 1990's, The KO companies did a decent quality and scale for the 1989 Liokaiser toys. The KO had the breastmaster function and partners deleted. because it was based off the early 1990's HasTak UK Rescue Force toys. that deleted the breastmasters gimmick and it's partners. :-? Think all of these Liokaiser KO's are 2nd, 3rd, 4th plus generations releases of this release I mentioned. With every newer generation, Deleting something, Changing scale, substituting a team member and simplifying something.

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Re: Advice on purchasing KO toys

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 6:59 am
by Rated X
william-james88 wrote:
Rated X wrote:
I also own the Liokaiser KO. There are 3 different sizes and the one I own is the original vintage scale. Im not sure if thats the small or medium one in Sirtoy's picture because I bought him from the now defunct KOToys. You can tell the figures are simplified and the individual bot modes heads look like crap. But the combined mode is accurate to the vintage toy in shape and color scheme. With the original selling anywhere between $800-1500, you cant go wrong with this KO for 15 bucks. I wish they would do a high quality KO or reissue of LioKaiser for $50-70, but then the vintage crowd would start whining when the value of the original drops.


I think for sir toys, that would be the scale called "scale". He sticks together well in combined mode?

Also, I agree they should release the original again as well as the other G1 toys north america didnt get (like Overlord and Thunderclash). The prices might go down, but then again its happened before and happens whenever MP-10 gets rereleased. Its simple demand and supply, no need to whine.

And just making sure, your Liokaiser also has the wrong arm right? I know it should be a jet but it seems they gave him another alt mode instead.

My Leokaiser holds together fine. I dont know what you mean by the wrong right arm. I have never seen images of the original Japanese release. Its quite rare.

Re: Advice on purchasing KO toys

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:30 am
by william-james88
Rated X wrote:My Leokaiser holds together fine. I dont know what you mean by the wrong right arm. I have never seen images of the original Japanese release. Its quite rare.


His right arm should be a jet, not an armoured truck.

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But I get why. Liokaiser was rerelased in the west (but not north america) as individual robots, which is what is written in a post above. However, not all the robots were released. So, if the KOs were based on these, then they would be missing a robot, hence why he doesnt have all his original limbs.