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Energon 5-in-1 Devestator,3 extra add-on figures idea thread. list your ideas.

I was expecting & hoping since we got the 3rd party CASUALITY combiner limbs for Energon/Movie-verse Bruticus. that the 3rd party was also going to make combiner limbs for energon/movie superion & energon/classics devestator.

I was hoping/expecting 2 new mold limbs for energon/movie devestator.
with the 3rd new mold going elsewhere on the gestalt combiner mode.

Normally I'd expect/want 2 3rd party limbs for energon/movie devestator. but since G-1 1984 Devestator was a 6 man team. I figured we'd have some FUN creating the 6th member & trying to figure out where he won't on the energon/movie 5-in-1 combiner.

My running ideas were as follows: (1) Have the 6th member transform into a headmaster for the gestalt combiner. ofcause it'll still have a robot & construction alt mode. (2)in gestalt mode,it'll transform into a back pack with shoulder canons for devestator. ofcause it'll still have a robot & construction alt mode. (3) how about going the 1988 seacons route. where the 6th member transforms into a targetmaster styled gestalt gun/ ofacuse it'll still transform into a robot & construction vechicle. (4)how about going the 1989 TF Victory breast-plate route. it'll be kinda cool if the 6th construction member transformed into a breast plate for devestator.

So if you've got ideas regarding 3rd party,3 new molds for the energon/movie 5-in-1 devestator,please post e'm in this thread.

If anyone reading this thread has contacts connections with these 3rd party TF toy companies. please pass along this idea to them in this thread. so we can all enjoy this idea in toy form.

I think the various 3rd Parties are all either busy with their own versions or backing away in the face of TFC's Hecules.

I think the only way you could add a 6th member to the 5 Bot Energon team would be as a Targetmaster/weapon, or maybe as an ultra-hollow God-Bomber wrap around for the upper torso as the re-engineering that would be needed would be so extensive otherwise I don't think it would be possible to sell as a "do at home" add-on kit.

That said I cannot wait for Someone to finally come along and make me do without the abomination that is that Energon Combiner - I'm hoping TFC has the funding and wherewithall to follow through and actually do it.

I think that the only way to make it a 6 con team would be to do a new core bot and make it two separate bots that merge to from the torso.

That said, I am quite happy with my Classics Devastator just as he is.

Project Deva is going to cost a months rent so screw that noise.

I've been racking my brains over this and I just can't seem to see how to do this without just making a whole new Devastator. Man I wish this Hercules set wasn't going to be so expensive. Right now it looks to be more expensive than the Botcon gift sets out there........

Impossible, or it'd take so much work it might as well be impossible. The G1 Constructicons were of a completely different design from the Scramble City combiners. The Energon Devastator is of a Scramble City-one big core robot and four smaller ones, interchangeable as limbs.

G1 was six same-sized robots, each one a unique component in the gestalt build.

I figured out of all 4 of my ideas. the headmaster (that also transformed into a robot & construction vechicle) one would be the hardest to do maybe even impossible to do.

I estimated making the 6th member a targetmaster (that also transformed into a robot & construction vechicle) would be the easiest to accomplish & a great throw back homage to the 1988 seasons targetmaster gestalt weapons.

headsortails wrote:I've been racking my brains over this and I just can't seem to see how to do this without just making a whole new Devastator. Man I wish this Hercules set wasn't going to be so expensive. Right now it looks to be more expensive than the Botcon gift sets out there........

But assuming the Dev set is well done, is there a BotCon set better than this? As cool as Shattered Glass is, I'd rather have a Classics Devastator than a purple Optimus Prime...

You know I had to do an assessment of all the combiners and I must say, E-Devastator was the ugliest of the three, second being E-Superion.

What e-Bruticus had going for him from the start was the limbs. The two tanks worked well as legs, and the copters had real hands. What FP did was spectacular.

To sole E-Superion's problem was to add stable hands and feet. The A-10's worked well as legs, and the F22 worked as arms, the failure of HasTak was no real hands for the guy. The attachments are minor from FP but giver it a much better look depending on the color of the Appendage set and which version of Superion you use.

E-Devastator, well he has some issues. The crane vehicles look odd whether they are feet or arms. The Bulldozers look better, but one gets in the way of the head from the main body. This perplexes me as to how they would achieve some uniformity in creating parts. Since G1 Devastator was 6 people, everyone is going to assume a third party add on would create this. I don't see it happening. To pull it off they would have to omit almost every vehicle except the bulldozer.

I could see FP doing it, but the 3P companies work together so the Project Deva is the Classics Devastator everyone has been waiting on.

Now will FP still make a Crossfire3, probably more of a new set of combiners that they were working on, but as for Classics Devastator, I see it as it will be left as is.

I don't think FP is going to do a Dev set, but I have heard rumblings about FP doing an all original not-Menasor. Whether that's Crossfire 3 or not, that much I haven't heard one way or the other.

I don't think there's room for another Constructicon on Energon Devy. Unless they make a new main bot that is formed from two smaller ones. And if that's the case, why bother modding Energon Devy? You could just go the extra mile and make a whole new Devestator done "the right way".

Not to say I wouldn't buy that. If TFC wasn't making a 100% new Devestator I'd say that this is an oiption I would totally buy into.

bvzxa wrote:You know I had to do an assessment of all the combiners and I must say, E-Devastator was the ugliest of the three, second being E-Superion.

What e-Bruticus had going for him from the start was the limbs. The two tanks worked well as legs, and the copters had real hands. What FP did was spectacular.

To sole E-Superion's problem was to add stable hands and feet. The A-10's worked well as legs, and the F22 worked as arms, the failure of HasTak was no real hands for the guy. The attachments are minor from FP but giver it a much better look depending on the color of the Appendage set and which version of Superion you use.

E-Devastator, well he has some issues. The crane vehicles look odd whether they are feet or arms. The Bulldozers look better, but one gets in the way of the head from the main body. This perplexes me as to how they would achieve some uniformity in creating parts. Since G1 Devastator was 6 people, everyone is going to assume a third party add on would create this. I don't see it happening. To pull it off they would have to omit almost every vehicle except the bulldozer.

I could see FP doing it, but the 3P companies work together so the Project Deva is the Classics Devastator everyone has been waiting on.

Now will FP still make a Crossfire3, probably more of a new set of combiners that they were working on, but as for Classics Devastator, I see it as it will be left as is.

I was kinda hoping they'd continue making more cross fire limbs. instead of go into another direction. they could of made 4 more new mold limbs & finished off devestator & superion.

then maybe ventured out & made a deluxe new mold menasor. then 4 new mold basic sized stuticons limbs.

I suspose after all this was done. they could have done a red & white recolor called computron. by mixing & matching bots from the 4 sets. like taking the stunticon for a limb & painting it red. taking 2 jet limbs from superion & repainting them red & white. then maybe creating a new mold deluxe core leader bot named scattershot. the motorcycle would be tricky to repaint but they could of axed him or did a new mold of him.

I suspose they could do defensor. if they did a new mold for the motorcycle limb for computron they could recolor this in defensor motorcycle colors. the race car from the stunticons becomes the police car repainted for defensor. the bruticus helicopter becomes blades for defensor. all that would be needed would be a new mold deluxe hotspot & a new mold basic limb firstaid.

Kibble wrote:

headsortails wrote:I've been racking my brains over this and I just can't seem to see how to do this without just making a whole new Devastator. Man I wish this Hercules set wasn't going to be so expensive. Right now it looks to be more expensive than the Botcon gift sets out there........

But assuming the Dev set is well done, is there a BotCon set better than this? As cool as Shattered Glass is, I'd rather have a Classics Devastator than a purple Optimus Prime...

Good point.
My only problem, really, is price. I would really like to get these (or even a Botcon set, for that matter), but the price right now is killing me. Man, I wish I could hit the lottery right now......

deathy wrote:

bvzxa wrote:You know I had to do an assessment of all the combiners and I must say, E-Devastator was the ugliest of the three, second being E-Superion.

What e-Bruticus had going for him from the start was the limbs. The two tanks worked well as legs, and the copters had real hands. What FP did was spectacular.

To sole E-Superion's problem was to add stable hands and feet. The A-10's worked well as legs, and the F22 worked as arms, the failure of HasTak was no real hands for the guy. The attachments are minor from FP but giver it a much better look depending on the color of the Appendage set and which version of Superion you use.

E-Devastator, well he has some issues. The crane vehicles look odd whether they are feet or arms. The Bulldozers look better, but one gets in the way of the head from the main body. This perplexes me as to how they would achieve some uniformity in creating parts. Since G1 Devastator was 6 people, everyone is going to assume a third party add on would create this. I don't see it happening. To pull it off they would have to omit almost every vehicle except the bulldozer.

I could see FP doing it, but the 3P companies work together so the Project Deva is the Classics Devastator everyone has been waiting on.

Now will FP still make a Crossfire3, probably more of a new set of combiners that they were working on, but as for Classics Devastator, I see it as it will be left as is.

I was kinda hoping they'd continue making more cross fire limbs. instead of go into another direction. they could of made 4 more new mold limbs & finished off devestator & superion.

then maybe ventured out & made a deluxe new mold menasor. then 4 new mold basic sized stuticons limbs.

I suspose after all this was done. they could have done a red & white recolor called computron. by mixing & matching bots from the 4 sets. like taking the stunticon for a limb & painting it red. taking 2 jet limbs from superion & repainting them red & white. then maybe creating a new mold deluxe core leader bot named scattershot. the motorcycle would be tricky to repaint but they could of axed him or did a new mold of him.

I suspose they could do defensor. if they did a new mold for the motorcycle limb for computron they could recolor this in defensor motorcycle colors. the race car from the stunticons becomes the police car repainted for defensor. the bruticus helicopter becomes blades for defensor. all that would be needed would be a new mold deluxe hotspot & a new mold basic limb firstaid.

Well the rumor was CX3 was to be Devastator, but they never really said it was a go. The word is an all new combiner for the Causality series they are working on. Seeing how E-Deva is a jumbled set, you would have to break it down and rebuild it. I still use my Target Constructicons as Devastator although there is only four members. I want TFC's version to come to fruition because of the way it looks.

I'd like to see an upgrade set with better fists, a replacement head, and a G1 style rifle.

deathy wrote:My running ideas were as follows: (1) Have the 6th member transform into a headmaster for the gestalt combiner. ofcause it'll still have a robot & construction alt mode.

The G1 cartoons frequently showed Hook transforming to form Devastator and becoming the head while the main chest part was already there. The hilarity of it all is that Hook WAS the chest component and not the head module.

deathy wrote:If anyone reading this thread has contacts connections with these 3rd party TF toy companies. please pass along this idea to them in this thread. so we can all enjoy this idea in toy form.

iGear's and FansProject's website has a link for you to submit your suggestions. I don't know how close attention they pay to it but they at least give the opportunity. I actually got a response from iGear.

I was hoping for new character molds for the Aerialbot combiner team so they also have all unique character molds instead of shared molds.

deathy wrote:I figured out of all 4 of my ideas. the headmaster (that also transformed into a robot & construction vechicle) one would be the hardest to do maybe even impossible to do.

I estimated making the 6th member a targetmaster (that also transformed into a robot & construction vechicle) would be the easiest to accomplish & a great throw back homage to the 1988 seasons targetmaster gestalt weapons.

i thought about it for a minute and to have a i think youre right on the headmaster being impossible seeing as size would be an issue. either youd have a monster size head or you would have to upsize each figure which would mean all new molds for scale.

Venksta mentioned a while back (maybe a few months ago by now) that FP is working on an animal themed add on for classics devastator that sounded pretty cool. that and that it was green were the only real info he had, but im optimistic about it and hanging on to my copy until i see whether i like the add on or not.