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BUYER BEWARE (seriously) KOtoys Black Starscream

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:40 am
by Poyguimogul
Hmm.. no video link.. why is that...

well.. Simply put, RAGE!

I was in so much anticipation for this KOtoy...

Came the same day as my TFCC G2 Ramjet showed up...
(Ramjets face mold is whack, but the overall toy is nice) :APPLAUSE:

but back to blacky (or african americany)...

PAINT on translucent plastic = Fatality.
His joints are tight... so much so that his right arm broke at the elbow.
And the other elbow is visibly cracking... :sad:
Now I have a beautiful GIMP KO Black Starscream... Nerd Rage... :BOOM:

So yeah... joints are too tight fer the plastic on the elbows....
Comes in Jet mode, so no real issues, except for getting the hands out....

Re: BUYER BEWARE (seriously) KOtoys Black Starscream

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:06 am
by Counterpunch
That's kind of what you risk when buying from a site called "KOToys".

Best to contact them and see if he can help.

Re: BUYER BEWARE (seriously) KOtoys Black Starscream

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:23 am
by Dead Metal
Counterpunch wrote:That's kind of what you risk when buying from a site called "KOToys".

Best to contact them and see if he can help.

Which he won't due to the existence of this thread, he hates it when someone opens a thread pointing out flaws in his products.

Re: BUYER BEWARE (seriously) KOtoys Black Starscream

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:56 am
by Poyguimogul
Well to be fair...

Air Warrior, Sunstorm, Skywarp, Thundercracker, Blue Konvoy and Deep Cover are totally fine.. ...in comparison. :P

But Black Starscream is FUBAR*~! :BANG_HEAD:

*Contemplating getting another one.... :-?

Re: BUYER BEWARE (seriously) KOtoys Black Starscream

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:37 am
by Layri Cheetah
Are you sure that this robot is "Emo"-Starscream? I think it's cool Skywarp KO-version.

And i want them in my collection.

Re: BUYER BEWARE (seriously) KOtoys Black Starscream

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:38 am
by Gauntlet101010
Some of my CMS Seekers had elbows that were too tight. But I didn't force them. It's a good idea to never force a joint to move if it's too tight on these KOs.

Re: BUYER BEWARE (seriously) KOtoys Black Starscream

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:09 pm
by Poyguimogul
Well I'll be a monkeys uncle...

I used...Multi-Hold Sureflex adhesive.. On a car side-view Mirror..
It's still on, through rain, car wash , --whatever.

I used 2 tiny dabs, applied with a Toothpick head on to the flat, break points in the
elbow.

---Dang toy is better then before!--- His arm stays on, and is less tight, therefore moves. I still think it's kinda Rubbish that the elbows are so weak too start.
And even though I feel kinda RAWR-ish about breaking mine... It's fixed / Better..
****I been trying to break the other arm for 30min before I typed this up. If I go all in I might break it, but need clean break for a chance at a salvage.

..Emo-scream just used right arm too much. Didn't give himself enough "Strangers".

Re: BUYER BEWARE (seriously) KOtoys Black Starscream

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:15 pm
by SirToys
some feedback is here and here

Re: BUYER BEWARE (seriously) KOtoys Black Starscream

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:17 pm
by LiKwid
Paul Grant wrote:some feedback is here and here


Do you seriously stalk every thread that has to do with Kotoys? We all know you have a vendetta againt Mike..No need to constantly remind us..

back on topic

When I got my Skywarp and Sunstorm from them they had the same stiff joints as well.Not to point of breakage but they were a tad tight. I left them in my window during a hot day and it loosened them up quite nice..

Re: BUYER BEWARE (seriously) KOtoys Black Starscream

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:01 pm
by Gauntlet101010
LiKwid wrote:
Paul Grant wrote:some feedback is here and here


Do you seriously stalk every thread that has to do with Kotoys? We all know you have a vendetta againt Mike..No need to constantly remind us..

back on topic

When I got my Skywarp and Sunstorm from them they had the same stiff joints as well.Not to point of breakage but they were a tad tight. I left them in my window during a hot day and it loosened them up quite nice..

Did that help the issue with the hands getting stuck in the forarms?

Re: BUYER BEWARE (seriously) KOtoys Black Starscream

PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:37 am
by LiKwid
Gauntlet101010 wrote:
LiKwid wrote:
Paul Grant wrote:some feedback is here and here


Do you seriously stalk every thread that has to do with Kotoys? We all know you have a vendetta againt Mike..No need to constantly remind us..

back on topic

When I got my Skywarp and Sunstorm from them they had the same stiff joints as well.Not to point of breakage but they were a tad tight. I left them in my window during a hot day and it loosened them up quite nice..

Did that help the issue with the hands getting stuck in the forarms?


I had a bit more trouble with the chest folding down than the arms or hands.. heck if anything the hands were a bit loose. Just some gentle moving from time to time seemed to be the best remedy..

Re: BUYER BEWARE (seriously) KOtoys Black Starscream

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:55 am
by Poyguimogul

Re: BUYER BEWARE (seriously) KOtoys Black Starscream

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:38 am
by SirToys
LiKwid wrote:
Paul Grant wrote:some feedback is here and here


Do you seriously stalk every thread that has to do with Kotoys? We all know you have a vendetta againt Mike..No need to constantly remind us..


why? is there some bad feedback in those links? I'm just posting links to his feedback, I'm not saying there's anything bad there, I'm neutral. ;) and I'm sure you couldn't have found anything bad in those links, because you still support him :APPLAUSE:

if I happen to notice a link to that site anywhere, I Will post the feedback links, that's fair. and there's always new people that don't know.

Re: BUYER BEWARE (seriously) KOtoys Black Starscream

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:14 pm
by LOST Cybertronian
I got your back Paul!

Re: BUYER BEWARE (seriously) KOtoys Black Starscream

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:52 pm
by It Is Him
Paul Grant wrote:some feedback is here and here



Feedback thread wrote:messerproducts: if you're an honest seller i wouldn't have a problem with you
Mike KOLD: if your an impatient JEW
Mike KOLD: then take ur f***ing money
...
messerproducts: no wonder why ppl on TFW have banned you
messerproducts: now i know what kind of seller you are
messerproducts: and i will make sure other buyers know about you as well
Mike KOLD: they banned me cause of a threat upon their lives
...
messerproducts: give me back my money
Mike KOLD: u r the one that wanted the **** in the first place
Mike KOLD: retard
messerproducts: i wanted it, paid for it and expect to receive it
Mike KOLD: when was ur purchase?
Mike KOLD: ya well dont be all jew on me
messerproducts: if i don't receive what i paid for, why shouldn't i got to the authorities?
...
messerproducts: and what's why the racist comments?
Mike KOLD: ok
Mike KOLD: whats the transaction number?
Mike KOLD: im in china
Mike KOLD: i can say whatever the f i want
Mike KOLD: its called REAL FREEDOM OF SPEECH
Mike KOLD: and I like to practice it
messerproducts: allright then, go ahead and be a racist all you want
messerproducts: i am saving this convo
Mike KOLD: jews arent a race
Mike KOLD: its a religion
...
Mike KOLD: there u go jhew
Mike KOLD: jew
Mike KOLD: all refunded up
Mike KOLD: ass****



What a nutjob. I love the part where he says in China he has "real" freedom of speech. :lol:

Re: BUYER BEWARE (seriously) KOtoys Black Starscream

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:44 pm
by LiKwid
Paul Grant wrote:
LiKwid wrote:
Paul Grant wrote:some feedback is here and here


Do you seriously stalk every thread that has to do with Kotoys? We all know you have a vendetta againt Mike..No need to constantly remind us..


why? is there some bad feedback in those links? I'm just posting links to his feedback, I'm not saying there's anything bad there, I'm neutral. ;) and I'm sure you couldn't have found anything bad in those links, because you still support him :APPLAUSE:

if I happen to notice a link to that site anywhere, I Will post the feedback links, that's fair. and there's always new people that don't know.


I don't support Mike as a person..never met him,never will. From a busniess standpoint I've had great dealings with him and Ko toys. I do however find it a bit hard to believe that the same person who has gone out of his way to make sure I was satisfied would speak or act like this to another customer. Do I think posting a link to a private(?) convo is cool or right? Not really but thats not the point.

I respect the fact that not everyone has had the same luck as I have with them and I also respect your opinion on the matter.

I'll leave it at that :)

Re: BUYER BEWARE (seriously) KOtoys Black Starscream

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:18 pm
by Gauntlet101010
Mike and Kate went above the call of duty to get me the stuff I ordered from their site.

However, the communication is still not very good. In the end, however, I got what I wanted for what i paid for it.

As for those comments ... not defending them. I don't have to agree with everything a person says or does to buy TFs from them.

Although this really gets away from talking about Black Starscream. Not every discussion needs to be about KOToys' customer service.

Re: BUYER BEWARE (seriously) KOtoys Black Starscream

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:38 pm
by It Is Him
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Not every discussion needs to be about KOToys' customer service.


The original post was complaining about QC on a product from KOToys. Seems like fair game to me.

Re: BUYER BEWARE (seriously) KOtoys Black Starscream

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:07 am
by Flux Convoy

People should wait to get stoned until they finish their reviews. That was terrible.
:BOT: