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Impossible toys sent us some pics of their upcoming Allicon figure. They say it stands about the same size as G1 Soundwave and is fully transformable.

Not really much of a transformation though... the alligator head flips out of the chest and the robot arms take its place.

It looks nice, but so did their Valkyre figure, which turned out to be a poorly made figure. As much as I'd love to buy a few of these for my Quint display, I think I may wait for others to jump first.

that does look good. maybe a bit big though, if it's on par with G1 Soundwave. I'd rather they were a bit smaller (maybe same height as Gen Kup?) and thus, cheaper, so that if they're good quality, a little swarm of them would be realistic to buy.

Doesn't look too bad...but yeah, quality is a concern here.

Mkall wrote:It looks nice, but so did their Valkyre figure, which turned out to be a poorly made figure. As much as I'd love to buy a few of these for my Quint display, I think I may wait for others to jump first.

Personally, I love the Valkyrie I own. To be fair, I knew what I was dealing with when I bought it, so I had no expectations. Still, she ended up surprising me. Even though she's not perfect, she's quite an impressive piece to me and looks nice in my collection.

I'm willing to give them a shot on this guy. However, you do make a valid point about Valk being poorly made. I got lucky, I know this. There were many more who weren't. Breakages, glues not holding, bad paint apps, etc.

It *looks* more sturdy, though. They're at least using screws this time, instead of plastic everything and a bunch of glue. He could be hollow crap, but that plastic looks plenty dense to me. Perhaps they learned their lessons and heard the cries of the public?

The tail, however...it looks a bit sketchy. I can't tell if that's flash from the camera, or stressmarks on the hinges...

Still, if it's an affordable price and it's as good as Valk, or even better, I'll buy it.

Even if the quality's poor I'm down for this. It's just nessasary to make my movie cast. Although the arms are kinds stubby in bot mode.

Autobot032 wrote:

Mkall wrote:It looks nice, but so did their Valkyre figure, which turned out to be a poorly made figure. As much as I'd love to buy a few of these for my Quint display, I think I may wait for others to jump first.

Personally, I love the Valkyrie I own. To be fair, I knew what I was dealing with when I bought it, so I had no expectations. Still, she ended up surprising me. Even though she's not perfect, she's quite an impressive piece to me and looks nice in my collection.

I'm willing to give them a shot on this guy. However, you do make a valid point about Valk being poorly made. I got lucky, I know this. There were many more who weren't. Breakages, glues not holding, bad paint apps, etc.

It *looks* more sturdy, though. They're at least using screws this time, instead of plastic everything and a bunch of glue. He could be hollow crap, but that plastic looks plenty dense to me. Perhaps they learned their lessons and heard the cries of the public?

The tail, however...it looks a bit sketchy. I can't tell if that's flash from the camera, or stressmarks on the hinges...

Still, if it's an affordable price and it's as good as Valk, or even better, I'll buy it.

I too had a Valkyrie and a Paradron Medic. My Paradron was of good quality and the Valkyrie was not, so I ditched it in favour of Delicate Warrior and never looked back. Paradron and Knightbird are still on my shelf.

I'm hoping that the price is decent enough on this guy that I can get three of them to put with my Impossible Toys Quintessons but time will tell.

If it's the same size as Soundwave it might be too big. Still, I do like it and Valkyrie for that matter. A few shots of it next to a G1 Sharkticon would go miles towards making this a Must Buy.

I like it. Not sure if I like it enough to buy one but yeah.

I want at least one. It sucks they choose to make him so big. I think Immpossible Toys honestly intends for people to display their products with G1 figures. But in reality, most people display their products with classics collections. G1 figures stand alone. I had no problems with Valkyrie. I decided not to upgrade to Delicate Warrior because they didnt make a Medic repaint.

I was really looking forward to Allicon but it looks too much like Quint 4 & 5 "Baliff" and "Exectioner", which had very limited ability to pose or move.

Oh forgot to comment on these guys. So I ordered two of them from BBTS since they were onsale for 30 bucks each and the moment i took it out and looked at it I decided to put it back in the box and return it. These things look terrible. No surface details at all? looks terrible in bot mode and spikes keep falling off. First time ever returning anything to BBTS even ate the return shipping since there is nothing wrong with it. its' just terrible looking to me. lol I'm doing collecting anything Quintessons related. Didn't like the sharkies, never got a chance to get the judge or any of those earlier quints. oh well..

mooncake623 wrote:Oh forgot to comment on these guys. So I ordered two of them from BBTS since they were onsale for 30 bucks each and the moment i took it out and looked at it I decided to put it back in the box and return it. These things look terrible. No surface details at all? looks terrible in bot mode and spikes keep falling off. First time ever returning anything to BBTS even ate the return shipping since there is nothing wrong with it. its' just terrible looking to me. lol I'm doing collecting anything Quintessons related. Didn't like the sharkies, never got a chance to get the judge or any of those earlier quints. oh well..

Also have no desires to buy overly ugly Transformers toys.

I still like him. But the one I got from BBTS during their sale was MUCH more floppy than the one I got earlier.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I still like him. But the one I got from BBTS during their sale was MUCH more floppy than the one I got earlier.

really? what about difference in plastic? Wonder if these are cheaper made to lower its price. all the review says QC and plastic quality was great. Once I got my figures i just thought that oh right they are just promoting it. hmmm.. but maybe not.

mooncake623 wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I still like him. But the one I got from BBTS during their sale was MUCH more floppy than the one I got earlier.

really? what about difference in plastic? Wonder if these are cheaper made to lower its price. all the review says QC and plastic quality was great. Once I got my figures i just thought that oh right they are just promoting it. hmmm.. but maybe not.

I'll have to directly compare them, but I think the plastic quality is the same. I thought it was pretty good on both, but you and I may have different definitions of "good". I was just struck with how much looser it was overall. The first release held a pose and stood on it's own easily. The second could barely stand straight and the tail was no help.

There are differences in other products too. For instance I have the first run of their Scientist and Prosecutor. The tentacles on those are bendy for the first release and that may seem fine, but the paint stuck together one day and it just went to Hell. I rebought them later while they were on clearance and the tentacles weren't bendy anymore and the paint was much better.

I may not be a hater, but Impossible Toys should have gotten everything right and consistent the first time, This goes for any 3rd party company, but IT was pretty bad with that.

I bought 3 of them. One at the originL $80 and another 2 during the first sale when they were $50. I personally love the figure and think it fits in perfect with my classics quint shelf. Are they delicate ? Yes. Are they perfect ? No. But its a freaking Alicon. What other 3rd party was going to give us awesome obscure characters like IT did ? At the time most of the others were busy making upgrade kits to fix Hasbros screw ups. IT was designing full blown figures pretty early in the game back when we only expected them from fansproject and TFC was just starting Hercules. Alicon was an awesome figure. So are the tetra jets, mini warriors, and all the quints.

Rated X wrote:I bought 3 of them. One at the originL $80 and another 2 during the first sale when they were $50. I personally love the figure and think it fits in perfect with my classics quint shelf. Are they delicate ? Yes. Are they perfect ? No. But its a freaking Alicon. What other 3rd party was going to give us awesome obscure characters like IT did ? At the time most of the others were busy making upgrade kits to fix Hasbros screw ups. IT was designing full blown figures pretty early in the game back when we only expected them from fansproject and TFC was just starting Hercules. Alicon was an awesome figure. So are the tetra jets, mini warriors, and all the quints.

Well ... I think calling it awesome is a bit of a stretch. It's a good figure; one I like. But awesome is reserved for guys like MMC's take on the Predacons or Hegemon or even Herc (for it's time anyway). I can't say I was "wowed" by the Alicon.

The Quints were great, but they also have no moving parts. The ones that do are almost just statues. I mean, I'm glad I have them and I'm glad they were made, but they seemed to be overpriced for what they were.

As for the Tetrajets, well ... there's some potential for them to have been a contender, but they didn't follow through. Sadly I can say that for most of IT's stuff. Like you I absolutely love their ideas. A full Quintesson court, a transformable Arcee, Tetrajets, and non posable figures of guys from the G1 toon are all things I love beight brought to life. But IT dropped the ball on quality too many times.

A fun fact: Vastenka of Renderform made all the 3D models for Impossible toys ... 10 years ago! But they all seemed to have been smoothes out from his original renders. Has IT released Arcee or the Alicon right when the 3rd party scene was just getting started we may have seen them in a very different light.

mooncake623 wrote:Didn't like the sharkies, never got a chance to get the judge or any of those earlier quints. oh well..

If you didn't like UT's Sharkies, iGear's Sharkticon 3-pack is on clearance for $80 at BBTS:

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/list.aspx?list=16673

megatronus wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:Didn't like the sharkies, never got a chance to get the judge or any of those earlier quints. oh well..

If you didn't like UT's Sharkies, iGear's Sharkticon 3-pack is on clearance for $80 at BBTS:

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/list.aspx?list=16673

Yea I know I saw this and was going to get them to display with the alicons. But since I sent them back I don't think I'll go for these.

mooncake623 wrote:

megatronus wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:Didn't like the sharkies, never got a chance to get the judge or any of those earlier quints. oh well..

If you didn't like UT's Sharkies, iGear's Sharkticon 3-pack is on clearance for $80 at BBTS:

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/list.aspx?list=16673

Yea I know I saw this and was going to get them to display with the alicons. But since I sent them back I don't think I'll go for these.

No Sharkticons for you?

Whatever will you do??

megatronus wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:

megatronus wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:Didn't like the sharkies, never got a chance to get the judge or any of those earlier quints. oh well..

If you didn't like UT's Sharkies, iGear's Sharkticon 3-pack is on clearance for $80 at BBTS:

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/list.aspx?list=16673

Yea I know I saw this and was going to get them to display with the alicons. But since I sent them back I don't think I'll go for these.

No Sharkticons for you?

Whatever will you do??

I could understand alicons being meh to some people, but I would think sharkticons would be a must have for any G1 fan ?

Rated X wrote:

megatronus wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:

megatronus wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:Didn't like the sharkies, never got a chance to get the judge or any of those earlier quints. oh well..

If you didn't like UT's Sharkies, iGear's Sharkticon 3-pack is on clearance for $80 at BBTS:

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/list.aspx?list=16673

Yea I know I saw this and was going to get them to display with the alicons. But since I sent them back I don't think I'll go for these.

No Sharkticons for you?

Whatever will you do??

I could understand alicons being meh to some people, but I would think sharkticons would be a must have for any G1 fan ?

I wanted to like them all I really did. But selling the sharkys and sending the alicons back... Do I really want to take another shot with the igears one? Lost money on both transactions lol not a huge deal but time was spent selling it and sending them back.. Haha

mooncake623 wrote:

Rated X wrote:

megatronus wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:

megatronus wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:Didn't like the sharkies, never got a chance to get the judge or any of those earlier quints. oh well..

If you didn't like UT's Sharkies, iGear's Sharkticon 3-pack is on clearance for $80 at BBTS:

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/list.aspx?list=16673

Yea I know I saw this and was going to get them to display with the alicons. But since I sent them back I don't think I'll go for these.

No Sharkticons for you?

Whatever will you do??

I could understand alicons being meh to some people, but I would think sharkticons would be a must have for any G1 fan ?

I wanted to like them all I really did. But selling the sharkys and sending the alicons back... Do I really want to take another shot with the igears one? Lost money on both transactions lol not a huge deal but time was spent selling it and sending them back.. Haha

Wow, harsh. I liked both UT's and iGear's Sharkticons. Although iGear's Sharkticons are better made overall and look better in bot mode IMO. Still, I found UT's Sharkies to be pretty fun.