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Re: R-DESIGN / ART FEATHER - BUMBLEBEE G1 ANIMATION VERSION UP FOR PRE-ORDER

PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:45 pm
by hattknall
I like it. I do not have a Bumblebee so I'll probably buy this one.

Re: R-DESIGN / ART FEATHER - BUMBLEBEE G1 ANIMATION VERSION UP FOR PRE-ORDER

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:38 am
by daimchoc
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Re: R-DESIGN / ART FEATHER - BUMBLEBEE G1 ANIMATION VERSION UP FOR PRE-ORDER

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:40 pm
by robotmel
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Cheers for the pics Daimchoc!

But what has happened..... he seems.... different?

I was just ready to bite of a piece of this veedub but seeing those shots, well I'm somewhat disapointed?

:-(

Is it because his head looks like an eraser or that his arms look like theyve been added from an old junker?
Perhaps its the odd looking grey roof/interior..?

Darn it Art feather! :sad:

Re: R-DESIGN / ART FEATHER - BUMBLEBEE G1 ANIMATION VERSION UP FOR PRE-ORDER

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:57 pm
by Banjo-Tron
These guys are pretty brazen, using the figure name, plus approximations of the Autobot symbols (but they look like they have been subtly altered?) What is up with the mismatching yellows? Dropped the ball or what?

Re: R-DESIGN / ART FEATHER - BUMBLEBEE G1 ANIMATION VERSION UP FOR PRE-ORDER

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:11 pm
by robotmel
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Ive just done a side by side with the promo advertising picture and one from above...

It looks like the interior and door edges have been sprayed silver very poorly? :-?

Bees head is so different too.

Such hopes... dashed?

Re: R-DESIGN / ART FEATHER - BUMBLEBEE G1 ANIMATION VERSION UP FOR PRE-ORDER

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:06 pm
by necr0blivion
Banjo-Tron wrote:These guys are pretty brazen, using the figure name, plus approximations of the Autobot symbols (but they look like they have been subtly altered?) What is up with the mismatching yellows? Dropped the ball or what?


Notice that the Autobot symbol is not visible on the in-box product (alt-mode) and that certain follow-up pictures show it on his chest/roof and also on the driver side of his hood/left foot, while on other pictures it is not there. Same with the "I <3 NY" on the front bumper. Can't tell if this is an actual sticker set that comes with the figure, or was something on hand just to add more decoration.

Regarding the mismatched yellows, I got a flashback of Brian from TFCC at BotCon this year, educating attendees about plastic molded in a certain color vs plastic molded in clear and painted over. I actually have one of these on order, and will try to let y'all know if this is the case or not.

Re: R-DESIGN / ART FEATHER - BUMBLEBEE G1 ANIMATION VERSION UP FOR PRE-ORDER

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:24 pm
by daimchoc
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Re: R-DESIGN / ART FEATHER - BUMBLEBEE G1 ANIMATION VERSION UP FOR PRE-ORDER

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:22 pm
by Rated X
So this figure is deluxe class after all. :D

I wonder why everyone kept in insisting it would be masterpiece scale. Here he is clearly shorter than deluxe Jazz. I see the point about the head being the wrong color. But maybe I can swap it out with universe Bumblebee once he gets new his Renderform "Bumper" noggin. Maybe I can swap out the arms too on a junker if the mold is the same size. The doors pop right off on the Hasbro mold.

Re: R-DESIGN / ART FEATHER - BUMBLEBEE G1 ANIMATION VERSION UP FOR PRE-ORDER

PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:03 am
by Banjo-Tron
There are marked differences between Daimchoic's picture and the ones shown before, where is all the silver etc? Unless Daimchoc has mixed a TF 2010 Bumblebee with the Art Feather one.

Cut-and-shut, Daimchoc?

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*EDIT - In fact, the moulds even look different. Is Daimchoc's a custom?*

Re: R-DESIGN / ART FEATHER - BUMBLEBEE G1 ANIMATION VERSION UP FOR PRE-ORDER

PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:13 am
by robotmel
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Yep, defo looks like someones custom in those pictures with Jazz, a good effort but not quite the ticket.

This still leaves us with the idea that he may still turn out to be Masterpiece scaled..?

I guess that may explain why the head looks a little odd, dodgy upscale of the Classics head perhaps?

Im back on the fence for the moment. >:oP

Re: R-DESIGN / ART FEATHER - BUMBLEBEE G1 ANIMATION VERSION UP FOR PRE-ORDER

PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:42 am
by daimchoc
Yes, it's a custom. I thought I had labeled it as such. Sorry for the confusion. It's basically to show the size difference.

Re: R-DESIGN / ART FEATHER - BUMBLEBEE G1 ANIMATION VERSION UP FOR PRE-ORDER

PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:31 pm
by Rated X
robotmel wrote::-?
Yep, defo looks like someones custom in those pictures with Jazz, a good effort but not quite the ticket.

This still leaves us with the idea that he may still turn out to be Masterpiece scaled..?

I guess that may explain why the head looks a little odd, dodgy upscale of the Classics head perhaps?

Im back on the fence for the moment. >:oP


Custom huh ??? Wel I hope it turns out to be deluxe size. I have no desire to own an incomplete Team of MP Autobots. I always said unless they are going to do every character, whats the point of oversized figures ???

Re: R-DESIGN / ART FEATHER - BUMBLEBEE G1 ANIMATION VERSION UP FOR PRE-ORDER

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:40 am
by daimchoc
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Re: R-DESIGN / ART FEATHER - BUMBLEBEE G1 ANIMATION VERSION UP FOR PRE-ORDER

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:43 am
by ambitron
The user "Uranus" on the ACToys forums has posted a bunch of out-of-the-box photos of this:

Out of the box photos of ART FEATHER BUMBLEBEE

They include comparisons with the Classics toy (it's the same size), as well as with MP-10 and PP05.

EDIT: Oops, looks as though Daimchoc already beat me to re-posting the pics I put on the TFW2005 forums, sorry for repeating - damn he's fast. :) But anyway, there's a fair few more pics at the link above.

Re: R-DESIGN / ART FEATHER - BUMBLEBEE G1 ANIMATION VERSION UP FOR PRE-ORDER

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:08 am
by Gauntlet101010
These new pics actually make me like this quite a bit more. Especially since I'm using the United version as Goldbug, this would make that seem like more of an upgrade than it currently is. And it's not too large either! I thought it might have bad proportions, but no .... no that's not right at all. The proportions in robot mode look good. But that face is kinda odd.

I wouldn't call this "animation accurate" however - it looks totally different! Those huge doors on his arms and that backpack give it a very different look than and ... I kinda think the classics or Henkei version may be more animation true in robot mode than this. Still, this went from a total pass to a serious consideration for me.

Edit: Oh and there's different yellow there too. Wonder why they couldn't fix that ...

Re: R-DESIGN / ART FEATHER - BUMBLEBEE G1 ANIMATION VERSION UP FOR PRE-ORDER

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:09 pm
by Mkall
Still not interested. If all of the other figs on my shelf were their G1 selves then perhaps I'd be interested, but they're not so I'm not.

Classics Bumblebee is still tops for me.

Re: R-DESIGN / ART FEATHER - BUMBLEBEE G1 ANIMATION VERSION UP FOR PRE-ORDER

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:52 pm
by Rated X
Mkall wrote:Still not interested. If all of the other figs on my shelf were their G1 selves then perhaps I'd be interested, but they're not so I'm not.

Classics Bumblebee is still tops for me.



This is 100 times better than any generic Honda dreamed up by Hasbro. I do believe the "new vision" Hasbro tried to create for alt modes was just one big front. They avoid paying licensing fees and new cars are the preferred choice of their target audience...kids. I always felt the Honda was more Cliffjumper anyways. With this new Bumblebee, Cliffjumper will finally be his own mold like the original G1 toys.

Re: R-DESIGN / ART FEATHER - BUMBLEBEE G1 ANIMATION VERSION UP FOR PRE-ORDER

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:17 am
by Mkall
Rated X wrote:
Mkall wrote:Still not interested. If all of the other figs on my shelf were their G1 selves then perhaps I'd be interested, but they're not so I'm not.

Classics Bumblebee is still tops for me.



This is 100 times better than any generic Honda dreamed up by Hasbro. I do believe the "new vision" Hasbro tried to create for alt modes was just one big front. They avoid paying licensing fees and new cars are the preferred choice of their target audience...kids. I always felt the Honda was more Cliffjumper anyways. With this new Bumblebee, Cliffjumper will finally be his own mold like the original G1 toys.

Each their own. It's a good figure to be sure; but whatever Hasbro's reasons, the figures are what they are and I'm going to pay a decent amount of money for a figure that breaks the theme. I'd rather a modern take instead of a slavish G1 figure any day.

Re: R-DESIGN / ART FEATHER - BUMBLEBEE G1 ANIMATION VERSION UP FOR PRE-ORDER

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:11 am
by Banjo-Tron
If they had come up with an original mould then perhaps they could have avoided that massive kibble on the back which juts out way over his head and ruins the figure - I guess this is what happens when you KO a toy and try to shoehorn your 'own' design around it. Hasbro version FTW.

Re: R-DESIGN / ART FEATHER - BUMBLEBEE G1 ANIMATION VERSION UP FOR PRE-ORDER

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:30 am
by Rated X
Mkall wrote:
Rated X wrote:
Mkall wrote:Still not interested. If all of the other figs on my shelf were their G1 selves then perhaps I'd be interested, but they're not so I'm not.

Classics Bumblebee is still tops for me.



This is 100 times better than any generic Honda dreamed up by Hasbro. I do believe the "new vision" Hasbro tried to create for alt modes was just one big front. They avoid paying licensing fees and new cars are the preferred choice of their target audience...kids. I always felt the Honda was more Cliffjumper anyways. With this new Bumblebee, Cliffjumper will finally be his own mold like the original G1 toys.

Each their own. It's a good figure to be sure; but whatever Hasbro's reasons, the figures are what they are and I'm going to pay a decent amount of money for a figure that breaks the theme. I'd rather a modern take instead of a slavish G1 figure any day.



I get your point my friend. Personally I feel this figure was meant to be. Volkswagons anti war stance was one big joke. They cant erase the atrocities of WWII by shunning the Transformers franchise. And another cool thing about this figure is the box. They flat out called it "G1 Bumblebee" instead of making up some stupid name like Hegemon, Survival Specialist, or Warbot Defender. They just jacked the TF franchises posterboy from Hasbro. Thats the kind of boldness I respect. BBTS, TF Source, Robotkingdom are all scared to sell this. What cowards. Big props to Tony ! :D

Re: R-DESIGN / ART FEATHER - BUMBLEBEE G1 ANIMATION VERSION UP FOR PRE-ORDER

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:23 am
by rpetras
Banjo-Tron wrote:If they had come up with an original mould then perhaps they could have avoided that massive kibble on the back which juts out way over his head and ruins the figure - I guess this is what happens when you KO a toy and try to shoehorn your 'own' design around it. Hasbro version FTW.


All they needed to do was wrap the doors around the backs of the feet (didn't the prototype have that?) and put the rear of the car on a slider to drop down that massive hoodie that he has.

Only thing holding me back are the iGear minibots.
If they end up doing a "proper" Bee and Jumper that are more in scale with their other offerings, not the legends reshells, that would make me happiest.

But even so, I'll probably end up getting this at some point, I can always put it with my MPs or something.

Re: R-DESIGN / ART FEATHER - BUMBLEBEE G1 ANIMATION VERSION UP FOR PRE-ORDER

PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 9:49 am
by ambitron
More images, courtesy of Sollking on the ACToys forums:

AF G1 Bumblebee Hornet

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Re: R-DESIGN / ART FEATHER - BUMBLEBEE G1 ANIMATION VERSION UP FOR PRE-ORDER

PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 11:28 am
by robotmel
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Nice spread. Very Daimchoc! ;)

Re: R-DESIGN / ART FEATHER - BUMBLEBEE G1 ANIMATION VERSION UP FOR PRE-ORDER

PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 12:19 pm
by Rated X
I just put my pre-order in. Also picked up a nice litle cardboard box to store my Henkei Bumblebee in. Or maybe Ill stick him with my G1 movie display with Spike and put the G1 verson next to Cliffjumper with my season 1 shelf. Decisions, decisions...

I agree they could have worked a little bit harder to reduce the kibble. But the awesome factor here is that this figure actually exists. Hasbro didnt want this to happen. They told us Bumblebee is either a Honda or Camaro from now on...Deal with it. I told Hasbro Suck it. Now bring on the Glyph repaint that Has/Tak wont give us...

Re: R-DESIGN / ART FEATHER - BUMBLEBEE G1 ANIMATION VERSION UP FOR PRE-ORDER

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:37 am
by metaphorge
The two different shades of yellow are killing this for me. I wonder if the contrast is as noticeable in person as it is in the photos?