KO MP-15 and MP-16.


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njb902 wrote:Maybe if these KO's do well enough HasTak will just discontinue the MP line, then we all win........... Oh wait.
Autobot032 wrote:I cannot tell which is which. At all. That's worrisome.
I keep hearing the rumor that these are factory reject pieces cobbled together to make a whole, working, figure. If that's true, then do these really fall under the heading of KO? Last I checked, a KO was made using full reproductions of originals out of newly made and substandard parts. This, to me, seems like a thief taking busted pieces and making them into a saleable product.
If this is true and they're factory rejects...doesn't that fall into the gray area rather than black market?
Autobot032 wrote:I cannot tell which is which. At all. That's worrisome.
I keep hearing the rumor that these are factory reject pieces cobbled together to make a whole, working, figure. If that's true, then do these really fall under the heading of KO? Last I checked, a KO was made using full reproductions of originals out of newly made and substandard parts. This, to me, seems like a thief taking busted pieces and making them into a saleable product.
If this is true and they're factory rejects...doesn't that fall into the gray area rather than black market?
Autobot032 wrote:If this is true and they're factory rejects...doesn't that fall into the gray area rather than black market?
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Autobot032 wrote:If this is true and they're factory rejects...doesn't that fall into the gray area rather than black market?
I'd consider them unlicensed for the sole reason they're produced and sold without Hasbro or TakaraTomy's permission.
Let me explain. Let's say Hasbro or TakaraTomy order this many figures from a certain factory, but the factory purposely produces a significant amount more, and only gives the amount ordered to Hasbro or TakaraTomy for selling. The overstock is then sold off privately at a low price for extra cash. Mind you it's just a theory. Point is, they're sold outside of licensing, and that should be the bottom line in making the distinction.
In case anyone claims breach of contract, it can be argued that the amount ordered is delivered, but it was never specified how many the factory is allowed to produce to begin with.
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Autobot032 wrote:If this is true and they're factory rejects...doesn't that fall into the gray area rather than black market?
I'd consider them unlicensed for the sole reason they're produced and sold without Hasbro or TakaraTomy's permission.
Let me explain. Let's say Hasbro or TakaraTomy order this many figures from a certain factory, but the factory purposely produces a significant amount more, and only gives the amount ordered to Hasbro or TakaraTomy for selling. The overstock is then sold off privately at a low price for extra cash. Mind you it's just a theory. Point is, they're sold outside of licensing, and that should be the bottom line in making the distinction.
In case anyone claims breach of contract, it can be argued that the amount ordered is delivered, but it was never specified how many the factory is allowed to produce to begin with.
Burn wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Autobot032 wrote:If this is true and they're factory rejects...doesn't that fall into the gray area rather than black market?
I'd consider them unlicensed for the sole reason they're produced and sold without Hasbro or TakaraTomy's permission.
Let me explain. Let's say Hasbro or TakaraTomy order this many figures from a certain factory, but the factory purposely produces a significant amount more, and only gives the amount ordered to Hasbro or TakaraTomy for selling. The overstock is then sold off privately at a low price for extra cash. Mind you it's just a theory. Point is, they're sold outside of licensing, and that should be the bottom line in making the distinction.
In case anyone claims breach of contract, it can be argued that the amount ordered is delivered, but it was never specified how many the factory is allowed to produce to begin with.
Which raises the question, are they then KO's?
Cyberpath wrote:I meant that they are very loose on his back. (Yes, I used the correct peg.
Should I try the colorless nail polish trick, does it hold?