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TakaraTomy Diaclone Reboot: Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 3:21 pm
by william-james88
With Gobots making a comeback, it was only time before more awesome robot toys had a return of their own. The 2015 Tokyo Toy Show had something pretty cool to reveal: a high end version of Diabattles, the poster robot of the Diaclone series.

To those who didn't know, Diaclone is the Takara series of Transforming robot toys which eventually included the initial version of the G1 Transformer Toys Hasbro released for North America (G1 Optimus, Ratchet, Skids, Dinobots ect). The original release of those Diaclone toys had drivers, small figures that would fit inside seats (which explain why so many early G1 toys have seats and hidden compartments) and it seems even the drivers are getting a nice update with articulated figures, also pictured.

A small bit of coincidence, Diabattle used to fight the Waruder hordes, and it just so happens that those are the newly announced Botcon 2015 troop builders. So two totally left field updates from two different companies regarding the same property revealed the same day at two opposite ends of the world.

The photos below were found on Daim Choc's Facebook Page.


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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 - MP style Diabattle Diaclone Toy revealed

PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 3:31 pm
by Burn
That is a nice looking figure. I don't want it, but it sure is pretty.

Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 - MP style Diabattle Diaclone Toy revealed

PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 3:50 pm
by william-james88
Burn wrote:That is a nice looking figure. I don't want it, but it sure is pretty.


Thats exactly how I felt about Star Saber. He actually reminds me a lot of that figures

Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 - MP style Diabattle Diaclone Toy revealed

PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:35 pm
by chuckdawg1999
I had a KO of this or the Diaking release as a child. I always wondered where it came from. Now that I think about it I fairly certain it was a KO, but made with Die-cast. Is Takara making this? It's kinda interesting that you said that this figure reminds you of Star Saber, Once Takara started making its own TF lines they tried to bring the series into more traditional Japanese mecha designs. For example a giant robot being made from multiple parts.

Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 - MP style Diabattle Diaclone Toy revealed

PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:57 pm
by Starsaber468
I hope this is actuly being made by takara otherwise its one of those It's nice figures its something i would never expect really

Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 - MP style Diabattle Diaclone Toy revealed

PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:25 pm
by fenrir72
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I had a KO of this or the Diaking release as a child. I always wondered where it came from. Now that I think about it I fairly certain it was a KO, but made with Die-cast. Is Takara making this? It's kinda interesting that you said that this figure reminds you of Star Saber, Once Takara started making its own TF lines they tried to bring the series into more traditional Japanese mecha designs. For example a giant robot being made from multiple parts.


Taiwan made KO to be exact. So buying this once abvailable! :grin:

Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 - MP style Diabattle Diaclone Toy revealed

PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:41 pm
by Mkall
Does this thing transform? If so, I'm in.

Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 - MP style Diabattle Diaclone Toy revealed

PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:11 pm
by padfoo
Looks amazing, I like the design better than the MP Star Saber. How big is this?

Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 - MP style Diabattle Diaclone Toy revealed

PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:21 pm
by Cobotron
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Wow! I thought nobody would care. I am glad to see others do. I actually downloaded these photos last night and was going to make it it's own thread. Just to see if anyone in here would give a dang. Thanks for making it news Will. ;)^

This is so awesome. The figures look like they might be about the same size as Super Microman and MagnePower Microman from the turn of the century. Of which are some of my favorite Microman redos.

For those asking, I don't see how or why this wouldn't be Takara's property.

I'm so following this toy all the way to my mail box.

Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 - MP style Diabattle Diaclone Toy revealed

PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:41 pm
by MaverickPrime
Well, hello, Dai Atlas custom fodder! :lol:
Seriously though, that looks very nice

Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 - MP style Diabattle Diaclone Toy revealed

PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:52 pm
by Bumblevivisector
BEEE-YOU-tiful!

And now the part of my brain that wants everything even vaguely TF-connected to have actual continuity has kicked into borderline-conspiracy-gear!

1.) Is it really all just coincidence, or did FunPub get wind of this revival a year ago and decide on the Diaclone theme for most toys not in the box set, so they could bask in the trans-Pacific-synergy?

2.) Since the original Diaclone line suffered from an unbalanced hero-to-villain ratio (a disorder that led to the pre-Dinobots fighting random plastic dinosaurs in their commercial, implying the Waruder time portal had the dastardly side-effect of promoting other toy lines, thus breaching the great-fiction-barrier by shooting Takara in the foot), no matter how awesome the new MP-grade Warudaros is, they're gonna' need someone else to fight, so...
Will Diaclone get a stronger back-story that ties into Transformers? Like explaining that the heretofore non-TF-related mecha were the Quintessons' non-sentient military hardware from before they figured out how to bring their slaves to life with Vector Sigma?!? Oh, please, please, PLEASE let my personal-cartoon-canon finally come true...

3.) And speaking of giving them Waruda to fight, could this imply that we'll be getting Masterpiece Insecticons in the next couple years, with the redecos actually being Waruder mecha? And could the same logic apply to MP Dinobots, Trainbots, etc.?

As for this actual toy...it's nice. But I'm way more interested in MPs of Diaclone designs that I could repurpose into Space Transformers! Come on Diatron 3 Big Powered!

EDIT: Wow, great minds almost think alike on this, Maverick Prime! (I was referring of the first one)

Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 - MP style Diabattle Diaclone Toy revealed

PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:09 pm
by chuckdawg1999
Mkall wrote:Does this thing transform? If so, I'm in.


Sorta. Japanese Mecha is more about vehicles combining to form a robot. The original toy was two vehicles that came together with a few bits folding and heavy parts forming to complete the look.

Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 - MP style Diabattle Diaclone Toy revealed

PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:13 pm
by william-james88
Mkall wrote:Does this thing transform? If so, I'm in.


I am pretty certain. They all transformed in the past and these are transforming toys, so I dont see why an "MP style" version wouldnt. If you are wondering what it transforms into, here is a pic of previous ones in that category, its a lot like Star Sabre.

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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 - MP style Diabattle Diaclone Toy revealed

PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:15 pm
by Cobotron
Mkall wrote:Does this thing transform? If so, I'm in.


I tried a little research. I assumed he turned into a couple of vehicles. As is the schtick for most these old piolted Diaclone toys. I just wasn't sure how many Diabattle turned into.

I found a funny review of an 80's knockoff of the original called KING DAM Three in One.
http://www.collectiondx.com/toy_review/plastic/king_dam_3_1

So he turns into 3 space vehicles.
pics from the review
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You Know what I love more than these goofy old toys? Super awesome modern updates of these goofy old toys. :D

Edit: Chuck, was this the one you had?

Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 - MP style Diabattle Diaclone Toy revealed

PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:22 pm
by chuckdawg1999
Yes King Dam was the one I HAVE. I dug it up a while ago. Have to find the missiles and fists.

Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 - MP style Diabattle Diaclone Toy revealed

PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:23 pm
by Cobotron
william-james88 wrote:I am pretty certain. They all transformed in the past and these are transforming toys, so I dont see why an "MP style" version wouldnt. If you are wondering what it transforms into, here is a pic of previous ones in that category, its a lot like Star Sabre.

Will, I think those might be concept boards for MORE new Diaclone toys. :-P Eh?

Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 - MP style Diabattle Diaclone Toy revealed

PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:24 pm
by Cobotron
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yes King Dam was the one I HAVE. I dug it up a while ago. Have to find the missiles and fists.
AWESOME :KREMZEEK: :KREMZEEK: :KREMZEEK:


Edit:
sorry y'all, i'm real excited about this
Will, I retract my last post. That photo is a map of ALL the things this toy can combine to form.

Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 - MP style Diabattle Diaclone Toy revealed

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:31 am
by bvzxa
Takara trying to get ahead of 3rd Party companies making Diaclone toys. FansProject was making there own version of King Dam since last year and then this comes out. Hmmm :-?

Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 - MP style Diabattle Diaclone Toy revealed

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:12 am
by ZeroWolf
I want...Ah Japan why do you abuse my weakness of giant transforming robots.

Also cobotron with those pictures you dug up I had the final fusion theme playing in my head from GaoGaiGar

Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 - MP style Diabattle Diaclone Toy revealed

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:23 am
by NuclearConvoy
I'm having an absolute nerdgasm over this. I've always wanted to have the Diaclone characters (well, robots, really ) updated into modern toys and have lamented the fact that Diabattles, Diaattacker, and several other designs I found interesting were never incorporated into Transformers, as I saw their aesthetic and play mechanics as something that would have added an interesting flair to the Transformers franchise.

This is like a dream come true. I will buy this and I will hope that in supporting this, it will encourage them to maybe make Diaattacker and some of the Warudas as well. This along with the awesome looking Machine Robo updates and all the great combiner wars stuff and I think my girlfriend will murder me for my toy buying habits... I'm in trouble. lol.

Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 - MP style Diabattle Diaclone Toy revealed

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:59 am
by DedicatedGhostArt
WOW. Is this an actual Masterpiece figure? Or just MP style? :-?

Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 - MP style Diabattle Diaclone Toy revealed

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 12:00 pm
by william-james88
SillySpringer wrote:WOW. Is this an actual Masterpiece figure? Or just MP style? :-?


MP Style, this isn't under the Transformers Product Umbrella.

Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 - MP style Diabattle Diaclone Toy revealed

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 6:44 pm
by DedicatedGhostArt
william-james88 wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:WOW. Is this an actual Masterpiece figure? Or just MP style? :-?


MP Style, this isn't under the Transformers Product Umbrella.


Thanks for the info.

Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 - MP style Diabattle Diaclone Toy revealed

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:26 pm
by Burn
I don't know what story line exists for this particular line, but what I'd like to see is a "cross-over". Expand the Transformers universe by introducing these guys as a different race.

Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 - MP style Diabattle Diaclone Toy revealed

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:37 pm
by Cobotron
Burn wrote:I don't know what story line exists for this particular line, but what I'd like to see is a "cross-over". Expand the Transformers universe by introducing these guys as a different race.
Ya cool! I like that. I'm gonna do that on my desk when I have this toy. :P