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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:6) Rung is a ploy. They even said in #35 that he was 'the last thing they wanted' when referring to his alternate mode, so, therefore he can't actually end up being something useful. He's connected to the matrix and 6 of 12 somehow, seeing as how my prediction is that he is a giver of life, someone capable of creating sparks, as seen when he steps down on Luna 1 and ignited the Hot Spot in issue 17. Also funny that we haven't seen our Rung since issue 1.

This theory makes... a lot of sense, actually. The council would likely be vehemently opposed to the notion of a being other than Primus being able to give life. On the other hand, going with this theory, that might imply that the Rung scene in issue #1 was actually him resurrecting Skids or something like that, and I would NOT want that. It would take away the value Skids' death.

Randomhero wrote:Orion is probably dead because they said the council killed the intellectual class and Orion was part of that, or he's still alive. He could even be Nine of Twelve.

While that would be an interesting twist, Orion isn't nearly religious enough to receive a spot on the council. I'm sure with time Roberts will show the whereabouts of plenty of other important transformers. There are so many ways he could go with this. Think about it, The Circle of Light, Shockwave (although he and Dai Atlas were likely killed with the rest of the Senate), Omega Supreme, and Trypticon are all unaccounted for.

Also, I didn't mind the art in this issue as much as in the first two. Lawerence is still no Milne, not even close, but he'll do for now.

On a tablet so quoting long posts gets messy, but for just ^ above, wasn't that Senator Shockwave getting attacked (with an implied death) in the flashback panels?

As to my thoughts on the book, it was pretty great. Like Scotty said in the review it had the "eagerness to turn the page" thing going on. The art was actually pretty nice here, it didn't bother me like the first two and Anode was developed nicely. I agree that the drill is probably not Rung at all and if he has the power to give life then I hope it doesn't lead to fake out deaths like others have said. As much as I love these characters, if they die it needs to have meaning and finality.
Also can I just say on an unrelated note that the whole "big brother" society the Functionists run is one of my greatest fears that should never become reality.

Any Brits catch the allusions to Brexit Britain in this issue?

Nicely done, Mr Roberts.

Quint wrote:Any Brits catch the allusions to Brexit Britain in this issue?

Nicely done, Mr Roberts.

They were laid on fairly thick, to be fair!

Va'al wrote:

Quint wrote:Any Brits catch the allusions to Brexit Britain in this issue?

Nicely done, Mr Roberts.

They were laid on fairly thick, to be fair!

Yeeeah... I got a little excited. On second reading, I completely agree. He even emboldened one of the Gove references FFS

[facepalm]

Quint wrote:

Va'al wrote:

Quint wrote:Any Brits catch the allusions to Brexit Britain in this issue?

Nicely done, Mr Roberts.

They were laid on fairly thick, to be fair!

Yeeeah... I got a little excited. On second reading, I completely agree. He even emboldened one of the Gove references FFS

[facepalm]

Not the first time, to be fair: we saw something similar about Gove and academies/education earlier on in MTMTE, when they visit Ofsted XVII in MTMTE 31-34! I enjoy them, but they're not the most subtle of commentaries.

If the Council has the Matrix, why recycle other sparks to make military bots? That's already blasphemy enough, so bleeding sparks from the Matrix shouldn't be off limits.

I don't think they do have the real Matrix. Nine-of-Twelve defected when Six-of-Twelve took the Matrix from Nominus. We know Nominus didn't have the real Matrix. The real one is likely still hidden in the Undergrid, which may be the key to victory for our intrepid heroes.

Killmaster or his wand will likely be the path back to the regular universe. He did invent the basis for the Geobomb, after all.

As an aside, oh man, did I miss this! We are back in full-on speculation mode with Lost Light, and it's just wonderful!

SureShot18 wrote:As to my thoughts on the book, it was pretty great. Like Scotty said in the review it had the "eagerness to turn the page" thing going on. The art was actually pretty nice here, it didn't bother me like the first two and Anode was developed nicely. I agree that the drill is probably not Rung at all and if he has the power to give life then I hope it doesn't lead to fake out deaths like others have said. As much as I love these characters, if they die it needs to have meaning and finality.
Also can I just say on an unrelated note that the whole "big brother" society the Functionists run is one of my greatest fears that should never become reality.

It's already there...WE ARE YOUR EYES!!!!

MrBlack wrote:Killmaster or his wand will likely be the path back to the regular universe. He did invent the basis for the Geobomb, after all.

Never thought of that, but you could be very right!

Po-po-po-politiiiiics! (And credit to the art teams, which is nice.)

Politics is a core theme of Roberts’ entire Transformers work, and while the comics do have some of the best action, romance and comedy, they’re also all about refusing to let anyone else make your decisions for you.

It’s something explored in the classic two-parter “Chaos Theory” with regular collaborators Alex Milne and Joana Lafuente, which not only features the first meeting of Optimus Prime and Megatron, but shows the early roots of both the Autobot and Decepticon ideologies.


Read More: TMKF: Raging Against The Machine In 'Transformers' | http://comicsalliance.com/james-roberts ... ck=tsmclip

What I like about Robert's, is how he does the politics in his stories right. He doesn't beat you over the head with it, with a large ugly Cheeto shaped club. He lets it flow naturally in the course of the story and the characterization. I don't mind political messages, even if I disagree with him, when portrayed in that nature. I hate when it is in your face and the express purpose is to make a statement, not tell a story.

Roberts kind of a master at this, in my opinion. Subtle, yet gets his point across while still keeping you engaged.

Ironhidensh wrote:What I like about Robert's, is how he does the politics in his stories right. He doesn't beat you over the head with it, with a large ugly Cheeto shaped club. He lets it flow naturally in the course of the story and the characterization. I don't mind political messages, even if I disagree with him, when portrayed in that nature. I hate when it is in your face and the express purpose is to make a statement, not tell a story.

Roberts kind of a master at this, in my opinion. Subtle, yet gets his point across while still keeping you engaged.

I said this earlier in the thread I think, but coming from a UK/EU perspective, he's not always as subtle as it might seem to readers outside of those realities. Especially direct criticism of UK politics, can be very obvious, rather than a more diffused sense of political ideologies at work.

Not detracting from the work he does, at all, just pointing it out for the discussion!

Yeaaah, if there's one thing I can say MTMTE/LL doesn't do well, it's being subtle in its political allegories. It's embedded well into the stories, and it's very clever how it's embedded into the universe itself, but it is very obvious and lays it on rather thick. I don't mind it myself and I feel there are good reasons for it in terms of education and inspiration; but I'd rather not get into politics no matter how much the subject matter is about them. Politics and Religion are the big two you never talk about on the internet...

Kurona wrote:Yeaaah, if there's one thing I can say MTMTE/LL doesn't do well, it's being subtle in its political allegories. It's embedded well into the stories, and it's very clever how it's embedded into the universe itself, but it is very obvious and lays it on rather thick. I don't mind it myself and I feel there are good reasons for it in terms of education and inspiration; but I'd rather not get into politics no matter how much the subject matter is about them. Politics and Religion are the big two you never talk about on the internet...

Though it is fascinating to see it from an 'outsider' perspective, that much I do like. US politics tends to creep into a lot of media commentary, explicit or otherwise, and I feel like more people are tuned in to that reality than the other way round.

On a completely different note, I'd like to mention that Lost Light has surpassed friggin' Spider-Man and got to the #4th best-selling spot on Comixology. And is the only thing on the top 10 not from either Marvel or DC.



This is awesome.

It's amazing that one of the best comics you can get right now has its roots in storytelling with a corny 22 minute long commercial from the 80s. And the Marvel comics of course.

Va'al wrote:

Kurona wrote:Yeaaah, if there's one thing I can say MTMTE/LL doesn't do well, it's being subtle in its political allegories. It's embedded well into the stories, and it's very clever how it's embedded into the universe itself, but it is very obvious and lays it on rather thick. I don't mind it myself and I feel there are good reasons for it in terms of education and inspiration; but I'd rather not get into politics no matter how much the subject matter is about them. Politics and Religion are the big two you never talk about on the internet...

Though it is fascinating to see it from an 'outsider' perspective, that much I do like. US politics tends to creep into a lot of media commentary, explicit or otherwise, and I feel like more people are tuned in to that reality than the other way round.

Interesting. I'll be the first to admit that I, at best, only casually follow European politics. That nonsense in my own country is such a destructive nightmare that I simply can't stomach any others. I really don't feel like Roberts is heavy handed. Like I said, interesting.

ScottyP wrote:On a tablet so quoting long posts gets messy, but for just ^ above, wasn't that Senator Shockwave getting attacked (with an implied death) in the flashback panels?

That was Nominus Prime

So is it up to me to say it's pretty damn cool to see Kaput from Spotlight: Orion Pax again?

Via the Twitter account of Alex Milne, fan-favourite artist on More Than Meets the Eye and general Transformers works for IDW and more, we have a look at a variant cover, with colours by Josh Perez, for the fourth issue of Transformers: Lost Light, featuring the Functionists, Terminus, and Megatron - oh, and the Matrix. Check it out!

That's a gorgeous cover!

Howdy doody, it's 'Mean' and 'Moody', standing on the Disco Ball of Destiny!

One thing I have never been a fan of on megatron's design is the chest hair/ swirly things on his chest