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Randomhero wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Oh, hey, it's that one guy from Prime who was just... kinda... there...

Yeah.

But the reveal is for Bulkhead not Smokescreen lol

No no, see, you're thinking of the guy with the personality who did everything cool like a boss.

Kurona wrote:This should be fun. Some late-game cameos right before the end of the series. Maybe Bulkhead is part of Optimus' team? Maaaaybe?

... nah, that would require too much thought.

PRETTY.F#^*ING.MUCH.

I just watched the new episode with Soundwave and left with “that’s what we were working toward? That’s the same plot as when he first appeared in RID. Leaving the shadow zone and trying to send a message out to Megatron to return and then being defeated.”

This is the first transformer cartoon ever that I’ve just not cared about. First one I’ve also not picked up on disc. It’s on Netflix and I said “let’s go!”...I watched the first episode, the finale to season two and the starscream three parter and said “I’m good”

Sabrblade wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Oh, hey, it's that one guy from Prime who was just... kinda... there...

Yeah.

But the reveal is for Bulkhead not Smokescreen lol

No no, see, you're thinking of the guy with the personality who did everything cool like a boss.

You mean Bulkhead? I know he was great! He even had some good character centered episodes. It was just a shame he got partnered with animated bumblebee- ah I mean Miko

Yay for Bulkhead! My favorite Prime bot and one of my favorites in general returns!!

I actually saw this description over a week ago, didn't know it was newsworthy...Anyway..any cameo by a bot from Prime is welcome. maybe now Grimlock will always get the "Teamy" he wanted . I assume he'll be voiced by Kevin Michael Richardson?

Also it would be nice to finally get some sort of reference about how much time has passed between the end of Prime & RiD15

o.supreme wrote:Also it would be nice to finally get some sort of reference about how much time has passed between the end of Prime & RiD15

Three years seems to be the general consensus.

Ah, Bulkhead's back. Is this an incentive for me to catch up?

...Maybe after college. Smokescreen would've made me harder.

o.supreme wrote:I actually saw this description over a week ago, didn't know it was newsworthy...Anyway..any cameo by a bot from Prime is welcome. maybe now Grimlock will always get the "Teamy" he wanted . I assume he'll be voiced by Kevin Michael Richardson?

Also it would be nice to finally get some sort of reference about how much time has passed between the end of Prime & RiD15

Yeah I saw It last week too at tfwiki

3 years is not what I was expecting. If it’s three years why has Bee not bothered to contact Agent Fowler? They left on good terms, autobots and the human governments had an alliance. I’m pretty sure instead of living in a junkyard and now a cave they could have shown up, contacted Fowler or anyone for that matter, said they have an autobot ship that crashed and few dozen decepticons running around and could use the governments help to find and then secure them instead of constantly making prank calls to cities saying there’s a disaster coming and city should be evacuated.

Oh wait...this show is kind of bad...nevermind...

Three years also doesn’t seem like enough time to completely rebuild and repopulate cybertron. It’s been 6 since cybertron came alive again in IDW-G1 verse and they’ll all still kinda living get in garbage. But I guess that depends on who’s drawing that issue. In TAAO/Windblade it looks fine, in RID/TF/OP it looks like a shanty town.

Randomhero wrote:3 years is not what I was expecting. If it’s three years why has Bee not bothered to contact Agent Fowler?

Bee said as much in episode 1 that this is his mission that he wants to do himself with just his team and as minimal human involvement as possible.

Sabrblade wrote:

Randomhero wrote:3 years is not what I was expecting. If it’s three years why has Bee not bothered to contact Agent Fowler?

Bee said as much in episode 1 that this is his mission that he wants to do himself with just his team and as minimal human involvement as possible.

And that's the problem. There are lives at stake. Let your ego go but this RID where even in an episode about Soundwave finally returning and revealing his ultimate plan we still had to shoehorn a insignificant sub plot about Sideswipe breaking Danny's TV and reminding him he needs to be considerate of others. Side swipe gives Animated Bumblbee, Miko and Prime Arcee a run for their money on never hearning a lesson.

Now Arcee will be the only member of the original Team Prime yet to make an appearance in RID.

bluecatcinema wrote:Now Arcee will be the only member of the original Team Prime yet to make an appearance in RID.

We still need bumblee from a Prime to appear

Randomhero wrote:

bluecatcinema wrote:Now Arcee will be the only member of the original Team Prime yet to make an appearance in RID.

We still need bumblee from a Prime to appear

I'm assuming this is an attempt at a joke.

PrymeStriker wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

bluecatcinema wrote:Now Arcee will be the only member of the original Team Prime yet to make an appearance in RID.

We still need bumblee from a Prime to appear

I'm assuming this is an attempt at a joke.

If only...

Oh joy one of the most boring Autobots ever returns...yay

Randomhero wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

bluecatcinema wrote:Now Arcee will be the only member of the original Team Prime yet to make an appearance in RID.

We still need bumblee from a Prime to appear

I'm assuming this is an attempt at a joke.

If only...

Your saying that the mute, bland and characterless R2 knockoff from Prime is a better character then Rid Bumblebee who has a defined arc and personality?

What do you miss about him what does he even have like how?

Besides a couple of episodes Bumblebee wasn't a character hell the live action films made Bumblebee a character with his radio quirks and emotive body language.

Randomhero wrote:
And that's the problem. There are lives at stake. Let your ego go but this RID where even in an episode about Soundwave finally returning and revealing his ultimate plan we still had to shoehorn a insignificant sub plot about Sideswipe breaking Danny's TV and reminding him he needs to be considerate of others. Side swipe gives Animated Bumblbee, Miko and Prime Arcee a run for their money on never hearning a lesson.

Sideswipe learns plenty of lessons all the time because while each "lesson" can sometimes be similar Sideswipe has pretty much never needed to learn the same thing twice


I'm going to copy and paste something another guys said on another site.

"His focus episodes lessons were

1- Stop trying too hard to impress

2- Don't assume you're nothing without your physical prowess

3- The Thunderhoof episode tested if he was serious about being part of the team or not

4- Proved to Strongarm he wasn't just a two-bit vandal

5- Stopped counting Optimus as invalid just because of his age and weak body

6- Learned that jokes can have limits and proved to the minicons his teasing was just friend banter

7- Worked on his loneliness issues this season both with Blurr's presence looming over his position and the trauma at the base's take-down by Steeljaw and crew"

Deadput wrote:

Randomhero wrote:
And that's the problem. There are lives at stake. Let your ego go but this RID where even in an episode about Soundwave finally returning and revealing his ultimate plan we still had to shoehorn a insignificant sub plot about Sideswipe breaking Danny's TV and reminding him he needs to be considerate of others. Side swipe gives Animated Bumblbee, Miko and Prime Arcee a run for their money on never hearning a lesson.

Sideswipe learns plenty of lessons all the time because while each "lesson" can sometimes be similar Sideswipe has pretty much never needed to learn the same thing twice


I'm going to copy and paste something another guys said on another site.

"His focus episodes lessons were

1- Stop trying too hard to impress

2- Don't assume you're nothing without your physical prowess

3- The Thunderhoof episode tested if he was serious about being part of the team or not

4- Proved to Strongarm he wasn't just a two-bit vandal

5- Stopped counting Optimus as invalid just because of his age and weak body

6- Learned that jokes can have limits and proved to the minicons his teasing was just friend banter

7- Worked on his loneliness issues this season both with Blurr's presence looming over his position and the trauma at the base's take-down by Steeljaw and crew"

Yes he totally does learn a lesson and by the next episode he reverts back to old sideswipe and needs to be taught a new one.

Sabrblade wrote:Oh, hey, it's that one guy from Prime who was just... kinda... there...

Yeah.

Did you even watch Transformers: Prime?

WreckerJack wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Oh, hey, it's that one guy from Prime who was just... kinda... there...

Yeah.

Did you even watch Transformers: Prime?

He only ever had a personality when he was playing off Wheeljack or Fowler (such as in that episode you linked to). Every other time he was just "the big one".

Sabrblade wrote:

WreckerJack wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Oh, hey, it's that one guy from Prime who was just... kinda... there...

Yeah.

Did you even watch Transformers: Prime?

He only ever had a personality when he was playing off Wheeljack or Fowler (such as in that episode you linked to). Every other time he was just "the big one".

He only existed to be the "Big green guy" part of the 5 man band (Hate that trope) which only consists of.

The Optimus (Which is Bee for rid)

The Bumblebee: (Which I guess is Sideswipe this time around in rid)

The Ratchet: (Which I would say is Fixit in Rid but he isn't grouchy)

The Token Chick: ( I would rather be multiple girls or none at all because it's always annoying to think is Arcee the only chick that exists?)

The big guy/big green guy/dumb guy: (Always the same dumb bruiser archetype)

My Perfect starting cast in a Transformers show would probably be a combination of Prime and Rid's so we can have more characters and more varied personalities and roles.

Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Ratchet, Arcee, Bulkhead, Cliffjumper, Sideswipe, Strongarm, Fixit, and Grimlock which is 10 Autobots sounds like a big enough cast without getting to cluttered and unable to give character development, Of course we would get more characters along the way either joining the main cast like Wheeljack or guest stars like Blastwave or Jazz.

WreckerJack wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Oh, hey, it's that one guy from Prime who was just... kinda... there...

Yeah.

Did you even watch Transformers: Prime?

The whole "Maybe Bulkhead dies!" thing was handled stupidly in the show, first of all their not going to kill him because no good guys die anymore, there isn't enough Autobots in the cast at that point anyways.

And he isn't even out of the action for that long it was like what 2 episodes?

The Status quo can never be broken without being reset the next episode because nobody knows how to write in the show crew!

Sabrblade wrote:

WreckerJack wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Oh, hey, it's that one guy from Prime who was just... kinda... there...

Yeah.

Did you even watch Transformers: Prime?

He only ever had a personality when he was playing off Wheeljack or Fowler (such as in that episode you linked to). Every other time he was just "the big one".

Pretty much all characters play off each other so I don't think that really matters one bit. Characters need to interact to grow and tell a story. Bulkhead is one of the toughest, bravest and kindest bots in TFP. Maybe you don't notice that but trust me it's there. Bulkhead might not be the brightest or most flashy character but he's still great.

WreckerJack wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

WreckerJack wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Oh, hey, it's that one guy from Prime who was just... kinda... there...

Yeah.

Did you even watch Transformers: Prime?

He only ever had a personality when he was playing off Wheeljack or Fowler (such as in that episode you linked to). Every other time he was just "the big one".

Pretty much all characters play off each other so I don't think that really matters one bit. Characters need to interact to grow and tell a story. Bulkhead is one of the toughest, bravest and kindest bots in TFP. Maybe you don't notice that but trust me it's there. Bulkhead might not be the brightest or most flashy character but he's still great.

He's ok from the start but Bulkhead never grew and neither did most characters, the only thing I saw change was that Bulkhead liked Smokescreen a bit more after that one episode that brought up the whole "Smokescreen is replacing me" thing that existed for one episode.


Bulkhead was only just there and any possible character development was forgotten about, remember Breakdown and how important his rivalry with Bulkhead was?...wait it wasn't that plot thread was dropped even before Breakdown was dropped out of the show because?

Deadput wrote:
He's ok from the start but Bulkhead never grew and neither did most characters, the only thing I saw change was that Bulkhead liked Smokescreen a bit more after that one episode that brought up the whole "Smokescreen is replacing me" thing that existed for one episode.


Bulkhead was only just there and any possible character development was forgotten about, remember Breakdown and how important his rivalry with Bulkhead was?...wait it wasn't that plot thread was dropped even before Breakdown was dropped out of the show because?

I will admit that he didn't develop as much as he should have due to TFP ending abruptly. Season 3 was rather rushed because the show was cancelled. Prime was a very expensive show and due to some issues with that cost plus things like the hub not making money to cover that cost did throw a bit of a monkey wrench in things.

I agree that there should have been more story with him and his rivalry with Breakdown. I do know that the voice actor for Breakdown had several other projects going on so they wrote Breakdown out of the show.

Now I know Bulkhead, like any other character has their flaws. But saying he was just kinda there is a really unfair assessment. I'm not asking anyone to like him, but to appreciate what moments he does bring to the show. He's a very friendly character who is also very tough which is a positive message especially because he's pretty humble about it. He's also good for some laughs and epic fights. That being said he adds more to the show than he takes away.

bluecatcinema wrote:Now Arcee will be the only member of the original Team Prime yet to make an appearance in RID.

Assuming you don't count Cliffjumper. Mind you, being dead is a good reason not to count him.