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Great start!!!!


Not as good as GIJOE Renegades though!!


Renegades clicked in all cylinders.



What I was displeased with this show:



-Lack of awesome TF Intro

-Soundwave's WIMPY A** VOICE!!!!! WTF was that??!!!

-During the fight scenes...the Audio lowered in volume, what is up with that? Did anyone else have that problem??

-Lack of Megs and Starscream in action (Animated was awesome in that the Decepticons are more powerful than the Autobots)



Everything else was AWESOME!!!!!

TylerDante69 wrote:-Soundwave's WIMPY A** VOICE!!!!! WTF was that??!!!

It was a recording of Arcee's transmission to Cliffjumper. Soundwave didn't speak.

Are you sure???


I hope you are right.


It has the same Soundwave G1 effect voice so I assumed that was his voice.

I really hope that is not his voice.


I only saw it once and I can't check it again unless it's on youtube.

TylerDante69 wrote:Are you sure???


I hope you are right.


It has the same Soundwave G1 effect voice so I assumed that was his voice.

I really hope that is not his voice.


I only saw it once and I can't check it again unless it's on youtube.

Both episodes are on YouTube. - http://www.youtube.com/user/FTransformers

Listen again. It's the same exact dialogue Arcee spoke to Cliffjumper via intercom, with Soundwave's vocoder sound effect added in to make it sound more like a recording.

TylerDante69 wrote:
-During the fight scenes...the Audio lowered in volume, what is up with that? Did anyone else have that problem??

Apparently problem with cable companies that didn't broadcast in HD (?) NY was widescreen, HD with stereo booming epic sound. Hopefully the cable companies will figure it out pronto.

Only watched pt 1 so far (pt 2 awaits on the DVR) but thought it was really really good. While I did have some minor quibbles (silent Bumblebee, Prime with a mouth, etc.) they didn't take away from this being some of the best TF I've seen in a long time. Michael Bay should take notes on exciting CGI fights where you can actually see what's going on!

It's just too bad there are no toys (Generations WFC notwithstanding) yet. I really want me a Cliff Jumper now.

Yeah


I figured it was the cable comapany's fault.


And it also says...Available in HD...

I was like, REALLY??? Where?? Because I have HD channels and the Hub is not in HD.



And also,

THANK GOD that wasn't Soundwave's voice!!!


Thanks for the Youtube link!!!

BTW



This show with only those 2 episodes already killed "Revenge of the Fallen" on every aspect!!!

Sabrblade wrote:

TylerDante69 wrote:Are you sure???


I hope you are right.


It has the same Soundwave G1 effect voice so I assumed that was his voice.

I really hope that is not his voice.


I only saw it once and I can't check it again unless it's on youtube.

Both episodes are on YouTube. - http://www.youtube.com/user/FTransformers

Listen again. It's the same exact dialogue Arcee spoke to Cliffjumper via intercom, with Soundwave's vocoder sound effect added in to make it sound more like a recording.

Thanks for the tip that the second episode was up. I've been waiting for it all day today. And I couldn't find the guy's channel. Megatron is a friggin' badass! Can't wait to hear more of him. As for his final act in the episode, he couldn't have been more retarded than anything else I've ever seen. I mean really, why in God's name would you take a shard of zombie-making-goo and stab yourself in the chest with it?!?

As I expected Prime had the better (not by much) animation while Renegades had the better story. We got Rick-Rolled on the involvement of The Rock although I see the Cliffjumper story being an arc for the season. We were also Rick-Rolled on Frank Welker, he cannot do Megatron anymore and should be replaced. The actress doing Miko sounds like she can barely say her lines in English and it's distracting; give her the Spanish archer as well, el-bow. Soundwave isn't going to have a voice outside of playing back the conversations of others. The human animation needs to be tightened up a lot. I'll try to keep watching the show to see if Cliffjumper comes back but I'm not going to make any special effort.

The Hub world special before hand was great, shame it was dominated by that other TF site.

Animation - Good.
Voices - Average
Story - Good start! Better keep up the pace.

What I didn't like? The look of the bots, skinny, razor sharp, I like my bricks.

What I do like? Back to the basics of energon, but they've introduced a new twist with dark energon and with that a dead Cliffjumper (bring back the Brahma Bull!) and a Megatron who's twisted enough to experiment on himself.

What I thought of the show it was very good. I liked it alot. Can't wait to see more. My son who is seven, was completely overwhelmed with it. His jaw dropped when it came on and didn't close till commercial.He was sitting on the edge of his seat literally almost the entire time, and pulled the "all,man" when it was to be continued (after the first and second episode). yes he didn't relize that he was going to see two episodes. We can't wait to see more.

I will probably write a bigger review tomorrow, but for now I have one comment to say:

"DECEPTICONS! I have returned!"
Yeah, we missed you Mister Welker. Good to know you are back as Megatron for a full serie. Wait - What do you mean it was more about Megatron announcing he was back? Isn't that what im already saying?

(Still, I miss David Kaye's James Bond villain-esque Megatron. However, I doubt it would have fitted this incarnation of the character.)

Looking back at the book and game, I noticed that the book called Dark Energon the "Spark of Unicron", whereas the show called it the "Blood of Unicron". Maybe there's different variations of the stuff, with the "spark" being the addictive power up in the game/book, and the "blood" being the rarer substance that turns the dead into undead.

Not to mention that the game/book illustrated Dark Energon to emanate from one's body in a ghastly, energized aura form. While the show had it emanate as a liquid goo instead. This kinda works with what I've said above, as sparks are energizing in appearance, and blood is a liquid.

Or, maybe I'm just overthinking this and it's just a discrepancy.

Having watched all 5 episodes I have to say that they show has failed to hold my interest and I doubt I'll be back for the full season. Having been conned on the Rock and Welkers voice roles really took me out of it.

Sabrblade wrote:Looking back at the book and game, I noticed that the book called Dark Energon the "Spark of Unicron", whereas the show called it the "Blood of Unicron". Maybe there's different variations of the stuff, with the "spark" being the addictive power up in the game/book, and the "blood" being the rarer substance that turns the dead into undead.

Not to mention that the game/book illustrated Dark Energon to emanate from one's body in a ghastly, energized aura form. While the show had it emanate as a liquid goo instead. This kinda works with what I've said above, as sparks are energizing in appearance, and blood is a liquid.

Or, maybe I'm just overthinking this and it's just a discrepancy.

If I recall (Can't be bothered to fire up the DVR and fast forward through the entire episode to find the exact quote) but didn't Starscream say something along the lines of "You don't know what it'll do to you!" when Megatron was about to use Dark Energon on himself? It creates another continuity error; Megatron did that exact thing in the very first mission in War for Cybertron, and Starscream watched him do it. Starscream even joined the Decepticons because he was impressed Megatron could use Dark Energon!

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Having watched all 5 episodes I have to say that they show has failed to hold my interest and I doubt I'll be back for the full season. Having been conned on the Rock and Welkers voice roles really took me out of it.

So, you don't like the series because the Rock didn't have as much screen time as you imagined, and Welker doesn't exactly match up with his G1 voice? You know there's a lot more to the series than that, right? Like how it's probably the darkest series since Beast Wars.

Shadowman wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Looking back at the book and game, I noticed that the book called Dark Energon the "Spark of Unicron", whereas the show called it the "Blood of Unicron". Maybe there's different variations of the stuff, with the "spark" being the addictive power up in the game/book, and the "blood" being the rarer substance that turns the dead into undead.

Not to mention that the game/book illustrated Dark Energon to emanate from one's body in a ghastly, energized aura form. While the show had it emanate as a liquid goo instead. This kinda works with what I've said above, as sparks are energizing in appearance, and blood is a liquid.

Or, maybe I'm just overthinking this and it's just a discrepancy.

If I recall (Can't be bothered to fire up the DVR and fast forward through the entire episode to find the exact quote) but didn't Starscream say something along the lines of "You don't know what it'll do to you!" when Megatron was about to use Dark Energon on himself? It creates another continuity error; Megatron did that exact thing in the very first mission in War for Cybertron, and Starscream watched him do it. Starscream even joined the Decepticons because he was impressed Megatron could use Dark Energon!

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Having watched all 5 episodes I have to say that they show has failed to hold my interest and I doubt I'll be back for the full season. Having been conned on the Rock and Welkers voice roles really took me out of it.

So, you don't like the series because the Rock didn't have as much screen time as you imagined, and Welker doesn't exactly match up with his G1 voice? You know there's a lot more to the series than that, right? Like how it's probably the darkest series since Beast Wars.

I don't like anything movieverse so the Rock and Welker were the only parts I was interested in.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I don't like anything movieverse so the Rock and Welker were the only parts I was interested in.

What does that have to do with anything? This isn't set in the movieverse. It's supposed to be the same continuity as War for Cybertron (Though that's been pretty much proven false), it takes influences from WfC, Animated, and the movies, though. But if you don't like a series because it takes partial influence from a series you didn't like, Transformers is probably not for you.

Shadowman wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I don't like anything movieverse so the Rock and Welker were the only parts I was interested in.

What does that have to do with anything? This isn't set in the movieverse. It's supposed to be the same continuity as War for Cybertron (Though that's been pretty much proven false), it takes influences from WfC, Animated, and the movies, though. But if you don't like a series because it takes partial influence from a series you didn't like, Transformers is probably not for you.

The Robots are movie like, I guess it would've been easier to say I didn't like the art. I should mention once I placed Megatron's voice as an angry, old Fred from Scooby Doo I started to find it amusing. I know Transformers draws from all that came before and will come in the future but, I make my way.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:The Robots are movie like, I guess it would've been easier to say I didn't like the art.

Except for Bumblebee, none of the robots are movie like.

Shadowman wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:The Robots are movie like, I guess it would've been easier to say I didn't like the art.

Except for Bumblebee, none of the robots are movie like.

Movie-ish; Prime is based on his movie design but "softened" for the show, Ditto Ratchet.

I like how they look except I wish Prime still had his jaw plate. I don't see why all the newer renditions of him show him with a mouth.

Plate slides on during fights for protection...and when it's cold to keep his nose warm. I could use one right now, actually. Brrrrr. It's cold out!

ImmortalOptimus wrote:I like how they look except I wish Prime still had his jaw plate. I don't see why all the newer renditions of him show him with a mouth.

Prime and most of the other Transformers have mouths because somewhere along the way animators lost the ability to emote without the use of mouths. It's funny but 25 years ago there was a Transformers story book that featured a G1 Prime with a fully detailed face.

I had that book. I hated how Optimus looked in it. He doesn't need an expressive face for me to know how he feels; I can hear it in his voice.