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Sabrblade wrote:

Burn wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Dear lord, started watching it to pass the time while i farm for arrows in Breath of the Wild and the voice acting is ..... sooo....sl...ow...

Great for insomnia.

Indeed.

Some have suggested increasing the speed to x1.25 to make for a better viewing experience.

Yeah but the content ... even at a faster speed the monologuing was just ughhhhhhhhh.

Burn wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Burn wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Dear lord, started watching it to pass the time while i farm for arrows in Breath of the Wild and the voice acting is ..... sooo....sl...ow...

Great for insomnia.

Indeed.

Some have suggested increasing the speed to x1.25 to make for a better viewing experience.

Yeah but the content ... even at a faster speed the monologuing was just ughhhhhhhhh.

True, but, at least the episodes would also be a little shorter.

But yeah, it's like the voice direction in this show learned from watching William Shatner in Star Trek.

While I didn't think it was slow, the voice acting (especially for Optimus) was terrible. If the voice performances were of higher quality, would that fix some of the other issues as well?

Rodimus Prime wrote:While I didn't think it was slow, the voice acting (especially for Optimus) was terrible. If the voice performances were of higher quality, would that fix some of the other issues as well?

Nope. Story was still badly paced and well ... just bad.

It's not perfect, but still the most entertaining animated series IMO since TF Prime.

While I did appreciate the hopeful optimism of some that the flaws of Siege would be improved here. They were simply made too close together. They had a format and the whole project has likely been produced to the same standard.

Even when the trailers dangled the carrot of seeing [my favourite Transformer] Galvatron onscreen again, after nearly three decades. It wasn't enough for me to pick this up again. Doesn't sound like I made the wrong call either.

Sabrblade wrote:But yeah, it's like the voice direction in this show learned from watching William Shatner in Star Trek.

Perfectly described

I'm surprised by the negativity about the show. I thought Earthrise was an improvement over Siege. The voice acting sounds better this time around, less noticeably slow (especially Jetfire), and more distinct. I may have just gotten used to the voices, but I can actually tell who's speaking when they're not on camera.
Given that the series juggles no less than three plotlines at any given point, I thought they did excellent at progressing all the plots in a cohesive, orderly manner. I feared that one subplot would dominate the others or otherwise distort the story, but the Ark crew, Elita's crew, and Megatron's stories are all told well, no filler scenes or unnecessary diversions. I think being so well balanced is an accomplishment over Siege, where some parts felt like they kind of dragged (like Magnus and Megatron's ages-long expository talk).
The characters were handled very well for the most part as well. Besides the big names, the B-listers are not forgotten, and new characters are given a chance to make their impressions. The Mercenaries have their time in the spotlight without displacing the true villains, and while their roles are limited, they are not meaningless. Scorponok is probably the only character with wasted potential, as his vendetta against the Quintessons seemed to be leading to his allying with the Cybertronians. Instead he is disposed of as an equal-opportunity threat for a brief team-up. It would have been neat to see Megatron convince him to join the Decepticons as a way to end the truce and put the Autobots back on the defensive. (On the subject of his size, he is basically toy-scale with the others. Not likely to have a base mode, but he does get to show off his robot mode! No headmaster though, although he was stated to be his own species so he may have some tricks if he shows up again).

I was pleasantly surprised by Sky Lynx's appearance, as I could not imagine how they could incorporate him. He was true to his original character while also being a unique take. His conceitedness here was a negative trait that resulted in him being punished by Alpha Trion. Through this punishment he was able to redeem himself and become the hero we know Sky Lynx to be. I noticing this trend with many of the WFC characters. They start out with different personalities than how we know them, only to gain their more familiar roles as the series goes on. Ratchet was not always a medic, Impactor was a villain, Bumblebee is becoming more open and friendly, Optimus is becoming more competent. I suppose this is fitting since the series is supposed to take place earlier in the timeline then normal. It's a good way to keep characters true to form while also being new spins.
While not everyone can be in the spotlight, the Ark crew all get a moment or two to contribute to the plot. Mirage gets an especially awesome use of his powers. Even Cog, the Huffer of Siege and almost entirely absent until the last episode, suddenly becomes a Cint Eastwood character (or Batman?) and nearly steals the show!
The appearance (and plot relevance) of Scrapface was also a welcome surprise. The Cybertron plot was compelling and tense, and managed this through dialogue and action without wasting any characters. Elita's crew is treated very well, and while I feel the team were cheated by the bizarre absence of Omega Supreme, I don't blame the writers for not overextending themselves. Omega's absence at least makes for a good trick by Elita over Shockwave.)

Overall, the series was a step up from Siege, and definitely one of the strongest pieces of Transformers storytelling since Prime. I may be reeling from the newness, but I was thoroughly entertained, and give it at least a B+ (Siege was like a low B-). If you haven't seen it yet, I recommend giving it a shot.

Whifflefire wrote:I'm surprised by the negativity about the show.

As someone who really liked the show, I'd say the comments so far are pretty split, as expected. Some like it , and some don't. But everyone is free to give their opinions, as long as it doesn't descend to personal attacks. Also as Omega Supreme is my favorite TF of all time, I didn't expect him to make an appearance (budget constraints an all), so the scaled down Hologram was a nice touch to throw off Scorponok for a bit. I mean honestly, if the Guardians got involved, the Decepticon's wouldn't have stood a chance on Cybertron. It's an unfortunate problem for writers when you have a "Superman Syndrome", and characters that powerful have to be used sparingly. I don't expect to see Omega in Kingdom either, but knowing his status in the end would be nice.

Where was Sunstreaker?

Or the rest of the new Earthrise crew?

It'd be cool if they all transformed.

It's nice that they're trying, and making something. It just seems like the people involved don't love what they're doing. There's something off and disjointed. And the miss-characterization of Optimus is a major flaw.

Just look at the Mandalorian chapter 16 vs the Last Jedi.

God Sunstreaker wrote:It's nice that they're trying, and making something. It just seems like the people involved don't love what they're doing.

Good luck finding anyone in a showmaking position who actually likes this franchise beyond "transforming robots are cool".

IMHO the Earthrise cartoon show is frustrating awful because there are some really great ideas that if they had more time, money, and better writers could have turned into an epic, but as it stands now the show pretty much sucks.

It's bad written, the episodes are boring as hell, and it mistakes dog piling fanservice as being deep, thought provoking, or just plain cool. The animation is dodgy at best, the washed out colors make the series look cheap and where they do bright colors it's makes the rest look awful. There is way too much going on and none of it goes anywhere anywhere interesting.

It's pulls it's plot lines and devices out of the LAMs, Marvel Comics, IDW Comics 1.0, the original cartoon show, Beast Wars, and even Transformers: Energon of all things.

The thing is dropping some of the sheer amount of fan service (most of it is very bad).

I like the idea of Optimus Prime making a bad situation on Cybertron even worse and Megatron is trying to clean it up is too me a really interesting idea but it gets sidelined because bad fan service needs Megatron to have his Nemesis spaceship to chase after Prime.

I liked the idea of making Sky Lynx an elitist and arrogant snob into a power hungry Autobot who wanted the Matrix for himself and Alpha Trion banished him to the Dead Universe for his crimes. But again this stopped because bad fan service has time traveling Galvatron trying to get Megatron to kill Optimus and take the Matrix for himself so he can become Galvatron or have the means to kill Unicron who finds Galvatron and wipes him from the timeline but not before Galvatron gives Megatron the Golden Disk so he can see his destiny.

This show has enough plot for 5 seasons but can't even finish up the stories it set up in Siege. This is also show is not new fan friendly at all. The voice acting is slightly better than Siege in that Optimus and Megatron both don't sound like the Emperor from Star Wars now Megatron sounds like the Emperor from Star Wars 9 they're both still doing trying that stoic general that sounds stilled at best to downright unnatural at worst in dialogue delivery.

This is by far easily one the worst Transformers cartoon shows to date. Maybe Kingdom will redeem this mess but some how I really doubt it.
If you want to watch an epic cosmic TF show done right then go watch Cyberverse which is better than this series in every way possible.

Cyberstrike wrote:If you want to watch an epic cosmic TF show done right then go watch Cyberverse which is better than this series in every way possible.

Heh, yeah. One could even describe Siege as "That one Cyberverse flashback but now six episodes long."

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:While I did appreciate the hopeful optimism of some that the flaws of Siege would be improved here. They were simply made too close together. They had a format and the whole project has likely been produced to the same standard.

Even when the trailers dangled the carrot of seeing [my favourite Transformer] Galvatron onscreen again, after nearly three decades. It wasn't enough for me to pick this up again. Doesn't sound like I made the wrong call either.

I'll save you the trouble Galvatron looks AWFUL and is IMHO the worst looking character in the series. His big intro looks like a bad cutscene from a PS1 game and is just an awful looking CGI remake of his intro in the 86 animated movie. He basically does nothing other than slam Megatron into a wall and tells him that he has to kill Optimus Prime and take the Matrix for himself that same day to fulfill his destiny. Then Unicron finds him and destroys him for his treachery but not before he gives Megatron the Golden Disk. That is it. Wasted potential is an understatement.

Cyberstrike wrote:Then Unicron finds him and destroys him for his treachery

Destroys him? I read that scene as Unicron simply pulling him back into the future to punish (torture) him.

Just finished up the second installment in this wonderful program.

I've thoroughly enjoyed it so far; it's been extremely cool to see the franchise return to its roots like this.

There really hasn't been any decent Transformers media at all since the late '80s, apart from maybe the recent Bumblebee movie, and even that featured some painful departures from the source material as well as regrettably few appearances from other characters from the original cast.

I was, however, extremely disappointed to learn that the third installment will evidently revolve around that horrid Beast Wars cartoon from the '90s.

I just can't. That's...not Transformers.

I wish they wouldn't try to force this new program to try to be all things to everyone. I wish they'd cut Beast Wars off from the rest of the continuity and send it off to be its own thing, removed from Transformers.

Comparisons to The Mandalorian are moot. The Budgets aren't even on the same continent much less ballpark. I really love Tansformers. Give me a Mandalorian season budget, and yeah it would be amazing. Not ever going to happen though. I'm really surprised at how decent it did turn out. It's far better than that Cyberverse garbage.

SteelCladLad wrote:Just finished up the second installment in this wonderful program.

I've thoroughly enjoyed it so far; it's been extremely cool to see the franchise return to its roots like this.

There really hasn't been any decent Transformers media at all since the late '80s, apart from maybe the recent Bumblebee movie, and even that featured some painful departures from the source material as well as regrettably few appearances from other characters from the original cast.

I was, however, extremely disappointed to learn that the third installment will evidently revolve around that horrid Beast Wars cartoon from the '90s.

I just can't. That's...not Transformers.

I wish they wouldn't try to force this new program to try to be all things to everyone. I wish they'd cut Beast Wars off from the rest of the continuity and send it off to be its own thing, removed from Transformers.

Lol is this bait or something? Out of all the transformers installments over the years, you think the one that deserves being cut out is beast wars? If you dont like it thats cool, everyone's got an opinion but to expect it to be ignored completely is just ignorant of the fan base surrounding it

Ladies and gentlemen, a classic case of "Trukk not munky" geewunning.

God that comment reeks of "boomer" nerd talk that pretty much uses the NPC dialogue of "Nothing beats the originals". All it needs is a grainy backdrop and a cliche GenerationOneFan4ever type of name

It's an opinion.

He's entitled to it.

Get over it already.

Well I watched it and genuinely, I found Cyberverse to be the better show, I liked the inclusion of the Dead Universe mind, so Earthrise wasn't all bad. It was better then Siege so hopefully the upwards trend continues into Kingdom. Its doubtful I'll rewatch these Netflix shows though.

Have to wonder though if Hasbro will stick to this distribution method for future tf cartoons

100% Bait, nothing genuine about it at all. A troll/inciting remark from a likely fake account IE "Wonderful program" is such an alien line, it reeks of someone using a fake voice in a crank call. I wouldn't be surprised if it was someone here pulling double duty. As a key worker, fresh from leave after being near burnt out over December, to me clearly some people have too much time on their hands in a Global Pandemic.

Moving on to someone who is actually real...

ZeroWolf wrote:Have to wonder though if Hasbro will stick to this distribution method for future tf cartoons

In what way? I think making the shows chapters back to back hasn't worked out the best. I mean if Siege had been really good, the quality of the rest would have assured a classic. As it wasn't, things such as the painfully drawn out monologuing will persist. Because it is too late to be altered.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Have to wonder though if Hasbro will stick to this distribution method for future tf cartoons

In what way? I think making the shows chapters back to back hasn't worked out the best. I mean if Siege had been really good, the quality of the rest would have assured a classic. As it wasn't, things such as the painfully drawn out monologuing will persist. Because it is too late to be altered.

I though he just meant having them air on Netflix.

Oh having them air in one place wouldn't be an issue. Looking back on how sporadically things like Beast Wars and Prime aired in the UK, across various channels. It would be handy for them to be in one place.

EDIT: One place that can be easily viewed internationally.