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IDW The Transformers #46 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:31 pm
by Va'al
As the finishing touches are added to the review for issue #45, iTunes has offered the first sneak preview of the first three pages of next month's The Transformers #46 from IDW Publishing - check out the synopsis and images mirrored below!

CONQUERORS part 1! OPTIMUS PRIME struggles to find his place on CYBERTRON where half the population hates him and the other half worships him. Meanwhile, on Earth, GALVATRON doesn’t care what anybody thinks.


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Re: IDW The Transformers #46 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:41 pm
by Randomhero
Now that's the Galvatron I've been waiting for.

Re: IDW The Transformers #46 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:06 pm
by Shuttershock
Hmmm, something appears to be rotten in the state of Iacon, from the lowest holdings to the upper echelons of society.

"The more things change, the more they stay the same."

Re: IDW The Transformers #46 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:24 pm
by D-Maximal_Primal
Really cool looking. Tell you what, Sara Pitre-Durocher's art looks incredible. If this is how Till all are one will look, I'm very excited :BOT:

Re: IDW The Transformers #46 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:03 pm
by Starsaber468
Neat also did you know takara released a bunch of videos on their new upcoming transformers figures from the Adventure (RID 2015 in japan)
Also in unrelated transformers third party news tfc will be doing a king poesideon and a liokaiser combiner figures

Re: IDW The Transformers #46 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:42 am
by Henry921
So Blackrock is a facsimile construct. I'm about 80% sure. Just like Barber to dig up an obscure piece of continuity.

Also really digging Galvatron being a charismatic leader. More of this.

Re: IDW The Transformers #46 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 8:26 am
by ScottyP
Henry921 wrote:So Blackrock is a facsimile construct. I'm about 80% sure. Just like Barber to dig up an obscure piece of continuity.
You may enjoy some of the thoughts about that over here in this thread that I am shamelessly plugging :D

Re: IDW The Transformers #46 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:39 pm
by Randomhero
ScottyP wrote:
Henry921 wrote:So Blackrock is a facsimile construct. I'm about 80% sure. Just like Barber to dig up an obscure piece of continuity.
You may enjoy some of the thoughts about that over here in this thread that I am shamelessly plugging :D


I've been thinking that way for a while and it sounds right. That maybe he's from swindle that got left behind or even from the -ation series. Like from the original bunker that was destroyed when megatron appeared.

He essentially runs the world and has the most popular company Ever but he just appeared out of nowhere 3 years ago. Roughly before transformers left earth

IDW The Transformers #46 Full Preview

PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 7:14 pm
by Va'al
What is Galvatron up to? Has Optimus come to terms with his status as a Prime? What happened to the Autobot crew on Earth? Find out answers to these and more in next week's issue of IDW Publishing's The Transformers, full preview available below! And make sure to head back for the Seibertron.com review.

Transformers #46
John Barber (w) • Sara Pitre-Durocher (a) • Andrew Griffith (c)
CONQUERORS part 1! OPTIMUS PRIME struggles to find his place on CYBERTRON where half the population hates him and the other half worships him. Meanwhile, on Earth, GALVATRON doesn’t care what anybody thinks.
FC • 32 pages • $3.99

Bullet Points:
• A new story arc that will have deep-reaching ramifications for TRANSFORMERS.
• The countdown to issue 50 begins here!
• Part of IDW’s Artist’s Edition Month promotion!


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Re: IDW The Transformers #46 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 7:59 pm
by Optimizzy
Interesting. That's the problem with beneficial dictators. Not everyone sees the same act as beneficial. I think this is going to be good.

Re: IDW The Transformers #46 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:02 pm
by Starsaber468
Mannnn Things surely are heating up and I just CANNOT wait for issue #50 of robots in disguise and definitely not More than meets the eye

Re: IDW The Transformers #46 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:27 pm
by D-Maximal_Primal
The art is gorgeous and the mistress is going to make things very interesting for Prime :BOT:

Re: IDW The Transformers #46 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:44 pm
by Shuttershock
I find it heartening that people regard RID teasers as "Hmmm, interesting." It really highlights the good political intrigue John Barber has built in the book.

Re: IDW The Transformers #46 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:02 am
by ZeroWolf
This is shaping up very nicely.

Re: IDW The Transformers #46 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:29 am
by BumbleDouche
I'm so conflicted... The concept of peace through tyranny appeals to me, but only under the iron will of Megatron. Now we have a Megatron that has turned into a less responsible version of Captain Kirk and Optimus Prime is in danger of becoming the tyrant. :BOOM:

Re: IDW The Transformers #46 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:30 am
by ZeroWolf
A less responsible version of kirk? Guess that's the rodimus effect :P (or just the lost light effect in general)

Re: IDW The Transformers #46 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:47 am
by -Soundwave-
MegaDump wrote:I'm so conflicted... The concept of peace through tyranny appeals to me, but only under the iron will of Megatron. Now we have a Megatron that has turned into a less responsible version of Captain Kirk and Optimus Prime is in danger of becoming the tyrant. :BOOM:

I find this is what makes it interesting.

Re: IDW The Transformers #46 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:13 pm
by Prowl4
I feel that while this series does some things well I can't help but feel it does strange things like having arcee inexplicably commanding the earth autobots.

Not to mention this mistress of flame throwing optimus' thoughts and disbelief in himself to an all time high.

I do feel sorry for the writer as this series seems to be hasbro saying what to push to sell toys and other ideas/agendas.

When you have windblade giving orders to Ironhide one of the longest serving autobots and as noble as prime you have to question these writing decisions.

James Roberts mtmte series is the best transformers title around. It does all of the characters justice and is both funny and serious.

Re: IDW The Transformers #46 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:22 pm
by Shuttershock
Prowl4 wrote:I feel that while this series does some things well I can't help but feel it does strange things like having arcee inexplicably commanding the earth autobots.

Not to mention this mistress of flame throwing optimus' thoughts and disbelief in himself to an all time high.

I do feel sorry for the writer as this series seems to be hasbro saying what to push to sell toys and other ideas/agendas.

When you have windblade giving orders to Ironhide one of the longest serving autobots and as noble as prime you have to question these writing decisions.

James Roberts mtmte series is the best transformers title around. It does all of the characters justice and is both funny and serious.


Arcee's command IS questionable, given her noted instability and relative newness to the team. It's especially jarring considering both Jazz and Kup have served as commanders for longer and are arguably more trustworthy.

Sadly, what does define Optimus in modern IDW is indecision and self-disbelief. He doesn't want to be a the guy who tells everyone how they should act lest he become what he's fought against, but time after time he finds himself pushed into the shoes of his predecessors and doing exactly that. Still, it is nice to actually have the MoF involved in the plot, as opposed to the fat lot of nothing she's contributed thus far and the build up she had going in to Combiner Wars.

Re: IDW The Transformers #46 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:00 pm
by D-Maximal_Primal
IDW Prime was not always self-doubting. He just began to doubt more once Nova Prime reemerged and the prime lineage was revealed to be nasty :BOT:

Re: IDW The Transformers #46 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:08 pm
by Shuttershock
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:IDW Prime was not always self-doubting. He just began to doubt more once Nova Prime reemerged and the prime lineage was revealed to be nasty :BOT:


Still, a big portion of the Mike Costa run had him near-inactive and RID kicks off with him abdicating authority to reinvent himself as well as to diffuse tensions.

Re: IDW The Transformers #46 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:11 pm
by D-Maximal_Primal
Shuttershock wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:IDW Prime was not always self-doubting. He just began to doubt more once Nova Prime reemerged and the prime lineage was revealed to be nasty :BOT:


Still, a big portion of the Mike Costa run had him near-inactive and RID kicks off with him abdicating authority to reinvent himself as well as to diffuse tensions.

Costa had a very different image of him (which I didn't really like) and in my opinion, Barber has done a nice job trying to fix that while keeping a bit of that personality. The Barber Prime now feels much better than Costa Prime :BOT:

Re: IDW The Transformers #46 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:12 pm
by Shuttershock
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:IDW Prime was not always self-doubting. He just began to doubt more once Nova Prime reemerged and the prime lineage was revealed to be nasty :BOT:


Still, a big portion of the Mike Costa run had him near-inactive and RID kicks off with him abdicating authority to reinvent himself as well as to diffuse tensions.

Costa had a very different image of him (which I didn't really like) and in my opinion, Barber has done a nice job trying to fix that while keeping a bit of that personality. The Barber Prime now feels much better than Costa Prime :BOT:


Agreed.

Re: IDW The Transformers #46 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:18 pm
by Prowl4
Shuttershock wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:I feel that while this series does some things well I can't help but feel it does strange things like having arcee inexplicably commanding the earth autobots.

Not to mention this mistress of flame throwing optimus' thoughts and disbelief in himself to an all time high.

I do feel sorry for the writer as this series seems to be hasbro saying what to push to sell toys and other ideas/agendas.

When you have windblade giving orders to Ironhide one of the longest serving autobots and as noble as prime you have to question these writing decisions.

James Roberts mtmte series is the best transformers title around. It does all of the characters justice and is both funny and serious.


Arcee's command IS questionable, given her noted instability and relative newness to the team. It's especially jarring considering both Jazz and Kup have served as commanders for longer and are arguably more trustworthy.

Sadly, what does define Optimus in modern IDW is indecision and self-disbelief. He doesn't want to be a the guy who tells everyone how they should act lest he become what he's fought against, but time after time he finds himself pushed into the shoes of his predecessors and doing exactly that. Still, it is nice to actually have the MoF involved in the plot, as opposed to the fat lot of nothing she's contributed thus far and the build up she had going in to Combiner Wars.


I totally agree here. Jazz, kup and jetfire are earth based and keeping command. It seems strange arcee is suddenly thrown into a leader role especially given her past not to mention being a known pawn of prowl.

Optimus started out great a great leader full of courage. Now optimus is questing himself to mof who is an unknown entity and a nothing to the lineage of primes.

If anything alpha trion is the one optimus should seek self confidence in if he's feeling doubtful. I know the comics wrote somewhat around this by trion stating he made bad decisions but optimus taking a leap of faith into getting approval from mof seems very silly.

Another iffy decision is allowing ironhide be written by mairghread scott. If prime isn't going to trust jazz or kup send ironhide to command earth's autobot fforces . I'm an ironhide fan so him taking orders from windblade doesn't sit well with me given what he has done and embodies in idw.

Re: IDW The Transformers #46 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 4:49 am
by ZeroWolf
I like ironhide and Chromia though...plus ironhide maybe tough but he's got his own set of issues. Also Prime is talking to mof because of the bigger picture and because of the council of world's. Also he's much more a 3D character, unsure what action to take that is right in a world where starscream is an elected head of state and megatron a Co captain on the lost light. As for arcee I would say she's proven herself given all that's gone on. Jetfire is more of a scientist then a leader, jazz probably wouldn't want the role while Kup is just. ..Kup