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Much as I don't like the idea of devolving to G1 adherence and teams, that second cover does make me wonder if they're starting up the female autobots team...

I love the first cover, its not the best art but I feel like it captures the attitude of El presidente' starscream perfectly.

I really like both of them

Via the usual fruity suspects, we have a three-page preview of next month's issue of Transformers: Till All Are One, from IDW Publishing - featuring the aftermath of the Titans Return arc, and more on Chromia's actions all in the very first Windblade series. Check it out below!

After the costly victory against the Titans, Iacon is in shambles and Starscream finds himself on shakier ground than ever. The key to his political (and likely literal) survival rests in the outcome of a very unlikely event: the trial of the Council's first official war criminal—Chromia of Caminus!

Damn, I was hoping they were leading toward elita and her people moving into Kaon especially since that was one of the first things brought in this story with obsidian saying kaon needs taken care of. With viligem out I figured they'd move in and that was moving toward that.

Can we just.

Also, alternate sketch for that last cover:

is it out yet?

Sunstar wrote:is it out yet?

Which one do you mean? The last issue released was #8, as reviewed here.
Next one to come out is #9, and as we saw the iTunes preview last week, expect a couple more weeks before actual release.

I really wish they would get a sort of set date. I hate sitting in a puddle of drool

By popular demand, IDW artist Sara Pitre-Durocher has tweeted out her design for the big bad that was there for three panels (but he means so much more) in Transformers: Till All Are One: the big green horned evil himself, Liege Maximo!

Check the image out mirrored below, and compare it to the first look we had at the Loki-esque character in the Covenant of Primus art by Ken Christiansen and the very first appearance in the Marvel G2 comic by Geoff Senior and Sarra Mossoff!

I've always loved Senior's version. Looks beyond a Transformer and more like a god-like being. And actually wouldn't look out of place in the movieverse come to think of it.

I really like the TAAO version best personally. Something about it just sings awesomeness

Another lazy Loki rip off..."snore!"

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I really like the TAAO version best personally. Something about it just sings awesomeness

Guess we got very different ideas about what awesome is cos I think that's the lamest one.
I didn't realise I was in the IDW sub-forum. I only clicked here cos it was on the news bit and I was so happy to see that glorious G2 page for first time in ages. I'll leave ya to it. Bye bye!

Yeahhh... the Liege's original design is imposing as all hell, and the new one takes away literally everything in favor of Robot Loki for whatever inexplicable reason.

G2 version looked so Liefeldian. I'am grateful for new design. It looks more smooth.

Noideaforaname wrote:Yeahhh... the Liege's original design is imposing as all hell, and the new one takes away literally everything in favor of Robot Loki for whatever inexplicable reason.

For a while now (solidifying around the mid-40s of ex-RiD), IDW's Thirteen seems to have adjusted to matching the Aligned line-up - why that is I'm not sure; was there anything said officially about Hasbro saying they had to? - so more than likely that includes the designs resembling Aligned's versions as well. Hopefully it doesn't also mean IDW's Fallen matches how lame he was in RiD; a demi-god with unlimited telekinesis and he gets beat up by standard prison equipment...

Regardless, if that's the direction they had to go in, I'm glad it was executed well no matter what I might think of the concept (which I'm not entirely sure on myself). Basically the Aligned Maximo but better.

Kurona wrote:

Noideaforaname wrote:Yeahhh... the Liege's original design is imposing as all hell, and the new one takes away literally everything in favor of Robot Loki for whatever inexplicable reason.

For a while now (solidifying around the mid-40s of ex-RiD), IDW's Thirteen seems to have adjusted to matching the Aligned line-up - why that is I'm not sure; was there anything said officially about Hasbro saying they had to? - so more than likely that includes the designs resembling Aligned's versions as well. Hopefully it doesn't also mean IDW's Fallen matches how lame he was in RiD; a demi-god with unlimited telekinesis and he gets beat up by standard prison equipment...

Regardless, if that's the direction they had to go in, I'm glad it was executed well no matter what I might think of the concept (which I'm not entirely sure on myself). Basically the Aligned Maximo but better.

Probably because Hasbro doesn't want the effort that went into the failed aligned continuity to go to waste so their going to copy and paste to do whatever they can to salvage the mostly abandoned ideas which will ultimately mess IDW's universe more instead of giving it any benefit mostly.

I do like some of their original ideas though like the Arisen sounds like a cool concept such as a Prime who is literally chill with him constantly making the areas around him freeze and a good counterpart for The Fallen which I'm waiting for it's eventual butchery like IDW's been doing with good ideas lately.

As for the Fallen their probably going to do this...thing


Instead of the first two more original designs that should make the Fallen unique instead of a direct Megatron rip off and say what you will about movie Fallen but at least his design was original and unique to him as a skinny guy instead of a bulky brute like Megatron.




I hope they don't give him true telekinesis but maybe magneto styled magnetism or something like Windcharger's abilities but stronger but also not overpowered since he is most likely going to be a villain so he has to either be defeated or give up on evil.

Also make him legitimately bad and not aligned's Anakin/Darth Vader rip off with the whole "I'm evil and angry cause I killed my love!" with maybe some justification to hate the other 13 like they neglected him for something or he wasn't anyone's favorite.

If they had to bring something from aligned for him how about this helmet cause that was pretty bad arse which makes his actual face underwhelming in comparison.


Maybe Windcharger is the Fallen's grandson or something.

Have a little faith. These guys have done some pretty great things with characters in the past.
...right?

I assume Hasbro wants to avoid a repeat of the whole Unicron/Primus/Quintessons/Primacron/naturally-occurring-gears mess from G1, and have an established canon 'epic backstory' going forward. Part of that would be to keep the designs same-ish across the board (Unicron and Optimus don't change all that much, after all). Which is understandable... but the big question here is why they'd disregard the unique design for something that so blatantly apes a far more popular rival franchise. That's kinda counter-intuitive.

Or maybe Mairghread/Sara just wanted to use the handsome version.


I do appreciate that Sara added in the blue cable things, as well as toning down the Loki-ness. A small change, but you can kinda see him grow into the G2 design maybe one day.

Noideaforaname wrote:Or maybe Mairghread/Sara just wanted to use the handsome version.

These days IDW seem to have the idea that the tumblr fan base is the main audience or at least they pander to them heavily with atrocities like Swerve's world and the whole god damn Conjunx Endura mess.

IDW Tailgate and his suspiciously retconned "female" status and the biggest mistake ever made with Chromedome and Rewind who while they have a great relationship and I enjoy it as well for being a good relationship said relationship opened a can of worms that should of never been opened.

I don't mind that stuff in real life people can do what they want but why do people keep shoving it into a goddamn robot franchise that I use for escapism.

Deadput wrote:

Noideaforaname wrote:Or maybe Mairghread/Sara just wanted to use the handsome version.

These days IDW seem to have the idea that the tumblr fan base is the main audience or at least they pander to them heavily with atrocities like Swerve's world and the whole god damn Conjunx Endura mess.

IDW Tailgate and his suspiciously retconned "female" status and the biggest mistake ever made with Chromedome and Rewind who while they have a great relationship and I enjoy it as well for being a good relationship said relationship opened a can of worms that should of never been opened.

I don't mind that stuff in real life people can do what they want but why do people keep shoving it into a goddamn robot franchise that I use for escapism.

*pat-pat*

I know! I'm tired of Hasbro and IDW shoving this stuff down our throats. First we had Sparkstalker and Lightbright, but that was just in the background so I'm willing to let it slide. But now there's hints of it in main characters? Chromia and Ironhide? Brainstorm and Nautica? Arcee and Sideswipe?

I'm tired of them forcing this straight agenda upon me. It just opens up a can of worms that never should have been opened and ruins my immersion and escapism so much.

Kurona wrote:I know! I'm tired of Hasbro and IDW shoving this stuff down our throats. First we had Sparkstalker and Lightbright, but that was just in the background so I'm willing to let it slide. But now there's hints of it in main characters? Chromia and Ironhide? Brainstorm and Nautica? Arcee and Sideswipe?

I'm tired of them forcing this straight agenda upon me. It just opens up a can of worms that never should have been opened and ruins my immersion and escapism so much.

For the record I'm pretty sure there are more same gender couples in idw transformers.

I dont mind same gender couples in stories but I do mind politics being forced in as well as forced romances both straight and not.

Rewind and Chromedome is a good relationship with good development unlike say Tailgate who is borderline creepy since season 2 of mtmte with the whole Getaway thing especially with Tailgate being a baby in holomatter form which raises possibilities I never wanted to think of also the book is treating him like a female both in the book and outside of it.

I hate tacked on empty romances like in the Bay movies and every action movie these days.

Ironhide and Chromia have always been a pointless couple and from what I read Sideswipe and Arcee seem pointless as well.

Brainstorm and Nautica have good chemistry but I think Nautica is a "genki" chick type which I don't usually like in stories.

Then again I also think romance between robots and most stereotypical fembots to be a dumb idea in the first place.

No art is apolitical. Not all art is political. Nothing is created in a vacuum.
As for 'escapism' (jesus you people love using this excuse), here's some good wording on it, by Aliette de Brodard.

I just went through the entirety of this thread, for reasons, and I noticed a giant discord in what you were saying at the beginning, Deadput, and what you're saying now.

As Kurona said, and as RevTibe said a while back: if you create a race that is mostly male, you're inevitably going to have mostly same-sex relationships.

I personally see nothing empty in any of the relationships shown in TAAO or any of the other books, except for the bland one between characters I cannot be bothered to find names for in the Redemption one shot. There is nothing forced that I can see in any of these stories either, except for Hasbro corporatism and publishing events. I see most of your opinions are very angry, skimming the surface, and flip around a lot of the time.

Many of us have told you already: learn to step away from stuff that upsets you. Calm down. Come back to the conversation later. Read the piece I linked to above, all of it. Come back later. With the same opinions, with the same thoughts, with the same ideas. No one is saying you can't think or say any of those things. But you're starting to sound more and more like a person I want nothing to do with.