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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #53 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 11:50 pm
by Nemesis Maximo
Randomhero wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:So far, Banzaitron has only ever been shown to direct the Secret Police. Has he even showed up since Revelation way back whenever? And what leads you to believe he has the clout to lead the Decepticons? Just because he has files on everybody, doesnt mean he can take over.


He is the head of the secret police. He organized and a successful attack on Garrus 9 even had the Combaticons under his command. The dude is a high ranking Decepticon

Yeah, seven yeRs ago, sure. Now I will comers that it's not impossible. But until I see it, I remain to be convinced.

Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #53 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 3:49 am
by Windsweeper
I hope they use the annoyingly over powered Tailgate to sacrifice himself to cover the others escape.

God I hate him so much he should be in John Barbers comic where all the others annoying tfs like Rattrap, Kup and Windblade are.

Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #53 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 5:39 am
by Randomhero
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Earnest questions, would the spark eater be the transformers equivalent of a Wendigo?


yeah pretty much. Alex's design for the original spark eater was based more on the Xenomorph from Alien

Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #53 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 5:59 am
by RevTibe
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Earnest questions, would the spark eater be the transformers equivalent of a Wendigo?
Sparkeaters have some generic cannibal monster qualities, but I don't think they have anything specifically tying into the Wendigo legends. They're as similar to Wendigos as they are to vampires, ghouls etc - the basic "monster that eats people, was once rational being" archetype.

The most standout thing a Sparkeater's done would be to immobilize someone in a hypnotism-ish manner, then use that thrall over them to force them to vomit out their brain. Don't know if that fits into existing human tales, though.

Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #53 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 12:09 pm
by misfire19d
Tarn may be Sentinel Prime. Turning a Prime to the Decepticon cause would prove a huge point.
I thought spark eaters were supposed to be Cybertronian vampires or zombies or boogie men that were drawn to the brightest sparks (Rung).
Glad to finally see transformations and action in the comic.

Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #53 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 12:34 pm
by Va'al
misfire19d wrote:Tarn may be Sentinel Prime. Turning a Prime to the Decepticon cause would prove a huge point.
I thought spark eaters were supposed to be Cybertronian vampires or zombies or boogie men that were drawn to the brightest sparks (Rung).
Glad to finally see transformations and action in the comic.


Except Sentinel is currently dead - and will be revived for Titans Return!

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http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ght/35189/

Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #53 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 3:28 pm
by misfire19d
The tfwiki only states sentinel prime's "barely functional" body was dropped at the feet of Prowl by Megatron. Does "barely functional" mean dead?

Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #53 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 4:46 pm
by D-Maximal_Primal
misfire19d wrote:The tfwiki only states sentinel prime's "barely functional" body was dropped at the feet of Prowl by Megatron. Does "barely functional" mean dead?

It really means that he could be alive or dead, as the series did not want to decide his fate then and there :MAXIMAL:

Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #53 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 1:58 am
by Va'al
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
misfire19d wrote:The tfwiki only states sentinel prime's "barely functional" body was dropped at the feet of Prowl by Megatron. Does "barely functional" mean dead?

It really means that he could be alive or dead, as the series did not want to decide his fate then and there :MAXIMAL:


That is true, yes. Though he was immediately replaced, we see the armour used by Megatron straight after, and we never go back to him at all. Plus, he looks like this, on that page:

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And you know what? I'll give you this: the solicit says 'left for dead'. :-?

THE LAST AUTOBOT! Once he ruled CYBERTRON with a brutal (and literal) iron fist... left for dead four million years ago, SENTINEL PRIME is back. But in a world where STARSCREAM rules CYBERTON, OPTIMUS PRIME has invaded Earth, and MEGATRON is an AUTOBOT—SENTINEL doesn’t like what he sees!


I still don't think it's Tarn but hmmmmmmmm. :-?

IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #53 Full Preview

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 5:02 pm
by Va'al
Our next comics preview from IDW Publishing (and Newsarama) continues the arc of The Dying of the Light, with Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #53, found in full below - again, with potential spoilers for the issue, so tread lightly, and art assist by Hayato Sakamoto! Check it out, start talking the talk in the Energon Pub, and head back here on Wednesday to read the Seibertron.com review to continue the conversation.

Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #53
James Roberts (w) • Alex Milne (a & c)
THE DYING OF THE LIGHT part 4! Twilight’s last gleaming! The end is nigh. No chance of escape. No last-minute reprieve. But nothing loosens the tongue like imminent death, and the crew of the Lost Light use their final hours to say what—until now—was unsayable.
FC • 32 pages • $3.99

Bullet points:
Winner: Comic Alliance Best of 2015: Continues Excellence in Serial Comics!
Winner: Comic Alliance Best of 2015: Outstanding Writer—James Roberts!
Variant cover by Priscilla Tramontano!


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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #53 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 6:11 pm
by Mindmaster
I pretty much expected her to propose to someone, but I didn't realize there was an "all of the above" answer on this kind of test! Interested in seeing how this works.

EDIT: just remembered I got it confused with "Conjunx Endura"... whoops!.

Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #53 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 7:04 pm
by misfire19d
HA! They just got friend-zoned! :lol:

Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #53 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 7:47 pm
by Bounti76
Awww, Nautica! I guess this means you can have more than one Amica Endura. Otherwise, she would have broken off her friendship with Firestar.

Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #53 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 8:50 pm
by Noideaforaname
She's, ah, flashing everybody...


Did they leave out an artist credit? "Incentive Cover Artwork by: Priscilla Tramont and"
And who?

Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #53 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 10:26 pm
by Nemesis Maximo
Noideaforaname wrote:She's, ah, flashing everybody...

That was my first reaction. I mean, when a girl really likes a bunch of people, isnt that what she does? Maybe?

Not that I'd know... :-P

Did they leave out an artist credit? "Incentive Cover Artwork by: Priscilla Tramont and"
And who?

Ahem...Priscilla Tramontano, I believe. It's an O, not a D.

Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #53 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2016 2:02 am
by Mr Skram
Did they start drawing Brainstorm like his TR figure this issue or have they been doing it for awhile? I can't remember and my tablet isn't handy.

Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #53 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 7:30 pm
by D-Maximal_Primal
Mr Skram wrote:Did they start drawing Brainstorm like his TR figure this issue or have they been doing it for awhile? I can't remember and my tablet isn't handy.

Nope, that is the same body he's had for the entirety of MTMTE :MAXIMAL:

Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #53 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 7:33 pm
by Mr Skram
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Mr Skram wrote:Did they start drawing Brainstorm like his TR figure this issue or have they been doing it for awhile? I can't remember and my tablet isn't handy.

Nope, that is the same body he's had for the entirety of MTMTE :MAXIMAL:


I think his head changed though. This one looks like the TR head. Others seemed much closer to his Generations fig.

Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #53 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 7:37 pm
by D-Maximal_Primal
Mr Skram wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Mr Skram wrote:Did they start drawing Brainstorm like his TR figure this issue or have they been doing it for awhile? I can't remember and my tablet isn't handy.

Nope, that is the same body he's had for the entirety of MTMTE :MAXIMAL:


I think his head changed though. This one looks like the TR head. Others seemed much closer to his Generations fig.

I just scanned my comics I have here, that is the same head as he has had. :MAXIMAL:

Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #53 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 7:38 pm
by Mr Skram
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Mr Skram wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Mr Skram wrote:Did they start drawing Brainstorm like his TR figure this issue or have they been doing it for awhile? I can't remember and my tablet isn't handy.

Nope, that is the same body he's had for the entirety of MTMTE :MAXIMAL:


I think his head changed though. This one looks like the TR head. Others seemed much closer to his Generations fig.

I just scanned my comics I have here, that is the same head as he has had. :MAXIMAL:


I guess the TR hype has been getting to me :HEADHURTS:

Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #53 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 7:59 pm
by D-Maximal_Primal
Mr Skram wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Mr Skram wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Mr Skram wrote:Did they start drawing Brainstorm like his TR figure this issue or have they been doing it for awhile? I can't remember and my tablet isn't handy.

Nope, that is the same body he's had for the entirety of MTMTE :MAXIMAL:


I think his head changed though. This one looks like the TR head. Others seemed much closer to his Generations fig.

I just scanned my comics I have here, that is the same head as he has had. :MAXIMAL:


I guess the TR hype has been getting to me :HEADHURTS:

Not you're fault. Can't blame you either! :MAXIMAL:

Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #53 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 12:54 am
by DarkEnergon
Just read it, and well, didn't see that coming! These issues are just way too short. Luckily, MTMTE you can reread plenty and find new details or ways of looking at things.

IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #53 Review

PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 1:49 am
by Va'al
Choices
(Spoiler free-ish)


Synopsis
THE DYING OF THE LIGHT part 4! Twilight’s last gleaming! The end is nigh. No chance of escape. No last-minute reprieve. But nothing loosens the tongue like imminent death, and the crew of the Lost Light use their final hours to say what—until now—was unsayable.

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Geddit? lights dying?


Story

The Light keeps dying, slowly, inexorably, irreparably, and we are witnesses to the events as they unfold, as James Roberts allows them to, and we are left without choice (other than not to read the story, of course) - in a manner very similar to the characters in this issue, faced with choices, the illusion of such, and a lot of emotions.

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Average MTMTE reader


And with a lot of emotions, come a lot of storylines: we have Nightbeat's intrigue with the hollow planet, and his co-opting of Rung, we have whatever Minimus Ambus and Brainstorm are doing, we have Ratchet and Velocity, Nautica and her group, Chromedome recovering, Megatron being repaired, the DJD just waiting, Whirl and Cyclonus. I could go on.

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New mystery; where are Rung's glasses?


Don't get me wrong, though, there are some stellar character moments for pretty much all of the cast members in the book. And it also manages to deal quite nicely, and deeply (and on multiple fronts) with big themes such as addiction, the overwhelming fears running through the whole cast of the issue, friendship and love, and the pain that the latter two can bring as side effects.

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Not pictured: your gut


There's ..a lot in here. And not all of it necessarily meshes that well together. We see it in the opening preview, with Nautica's otherwise very touching moment as she sees the end coming - a moment which feels too short taken within the frame of the whole issue, and that is a real shame. But more below.

Art

Alex Milne is the main artist on the book, though the Whirl/Cyclonus sequence is actually the talented hands of Hayato Sakamoto, and it shows. Not just the parallels, but the issues that come across in the script in terms of pacing are visually redeemed (for me at least) by punching the 'meanwhile' technique is a truly spectacular way. And one panel, that one panel, THAT PANEL, is almost painful.

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Not showing it of course


Joana Lafuente's gradual transition in colour palettes, from the arrival on the beautifully lit Necroworld to now

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Inevitability sucks


Tom B. Long takes the letters and makes sure we know exactly where to look, what to hear, and how loudly (or softly). In a text that so much unsaid finally spoken, the indication is needed, welcome, and part of the emotional package. The covers, on the other hand, do very little to hint at anything happening inside this book, though great they are! Priscilla Tramontano brings a much happier Swerve memory (thumbnail), as Josh Burcham and Sakamoto show off the threat that awaits, and Milne and Josh Perez look at that thread from our side of the fence.


Thoughts
Spoilerish ahead

Reader, I cried. Much like the issue in this series that provided the template for the culprit image, I felt the same build up on the page, in the characters, and inside my emotional chamber, as I was led to the resolution of that particular arc. It doesn't end there, of course, but if I have to talk about one moment, that is the one that stuck. The art, as I said above, is mostly to blame.

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...ready?


There are, I repeat here, some severe pacing issues, trying to fit in a number of personal narratives that just do not survive the composition, either coming across as rushed, disjointed or even shoehorned in - which the visuals do wonders with. It's a collection of character moments, beautiful, each unique in their own way, and well-done taken separately. But we need the climax. It is time.

. :BOT: :BOT: :BOT: :BOT: out of :BOT: :BOT: :BOT: :BOT: :BOT:

Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #53 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 6:43 am
by D-Maximal_Primal
Well, I was wrong about Dominus, but not really in an expected way. At least I was fairly close, him actually being there in the DJD. Also, that section with Dome and Rewind, that was the highlight of the issue. That was a great story part.

And oh yes, Maximus Ambus!!
:MAXIMAL:

Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #53 Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 7:29 am
by RevTibe
When I was commenting on the first preview I clipped a paragraph off my comic about being surprised we hadn't seen a Turbofox Transformer, since turning into a Turbofox would be a legitimately useful disguise on Cybertron. I like this twist, since the similarity is sorta there when you compare the preexisting glimpse we had at 113 and The Pet, but I haven't seen anyone draw that connection.

...this could add depth to why Kaon was so attached to The Pet. I suppose it can be hard to let go of your camaraderie, even if that comrade turns out to be a traitor.