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New IDW Transformers Reboot Confirmed for 2019

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:13 am
by Va'al
This slipped under our radar in previous days, but there is a new interview with IDW Publishing's Publishing President Greg Goldstein, courtesy of ICv2, in which no actual new information comes out - but we do have confirmation on two major points that people have been speculating about the Transformers (and Hasbro Universe, I suppose) comic once the current continuity ends this October.

Namely: yes, there will be a reboot, set for some point in 2019; and yes, the licence from Hasbro has been renewed, the ending happening at the same time as the renewal was a coincidence at best. REad the relevant extracts from the piece below, and head here for the full story.

A couple of quick questions on licenses. You mentioned how you’re wrapping up your Hasbro storyline. Was that done in conjunction with the time for renewal of the license?

Yeah. It's funny, I've seen some commentary on that. We've been in business with Hasbro for 12 years. We love the relationship. They are a great partner. We try to deliver the best possible books month in and month out on not just Transformers, but on GI Joe and on My Little Pony. We had a great Jem and the Holograms series. Jem will be back. They're probably going to say, "Why is Greg pre‑announcing these things?" In any event, no. Sometimes, it's easy to extrapolate incorrect information, so no, the Transformers line and the other titles continue.


[...]

We’ve got three monthly Marvel books as of January 2019, the opportunity to do some specials, maybe one‑shots and some other things with Marvel. They're very excited about it, we're very excited about it.

Our Transformers reboot for 2019 is going to be great.

We've got some pretty exciting projects on the Star Trek front.

[Teenage Mutant Ninja] Turtles is heading to issue 100. We have the longest‑running Turtles series in the history of the brand. The brand's 35 years old next year.

Re: New IDW Transformers Reboot Confirmed for 2019

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:04 am
by Tommy T.
Mabey TMNT reached 100 because they dont have a bunch of there characters running around hugging and holding hands being in love with each other. Just saying

Re: New IDW Transformers Reboot Confirmed for 2019

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:09 am
by Agent 53
Ah good, the fact that there will be a reboot post Unicron has gone from "Sure thing but unannounced" to "Confirmed" Good, I can actually follow it from the start (I'm not sure if I'd joined the fandom when IDW started but I only really got into comics in 2015)

Re: New IDW Transformers Reboot Confirmed for 2019

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:21 am
by ZeroWolf
This is about what I was expecting, though I imagine we will have a longer wait now for more information and news of creative teams.

Re: New IDW Transformers Reboot Confirmed for 2019

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:07 am
by Black Bumblebee
Figured. The reboot is pretty much to get rid of all that "shared universe" stuff that completely ruined all the comic brands. Couldn't reboot one without rebooting the others... so... BOOM, grand reset button.

Re: New IDW Transformers Reboot Confirmed for 2019

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:10 am
by ZeroWolf
Black Bumblebee wrote:Figured. The reboot is pretty much to get rid of all that "shared universe" stuff that completely ruined all the comic brands. Couldn't reboot one without rebooting the others... so... BOOM, grand reset button.

Actually from what's been said it looked like it was always the plan to end things once barber and Roberts were finished, so the badly implementated hasbroverse isn't to blame for this.

I can still see it working but they need to have a better plan in place from the get go

Re: New IDW Transformers Reboot Confirmed for 2019

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:54 am
by Randomhero
ZeroWolf wrote:
Black Bumblebee wrote:Figured. The reboot is pretty much to get rid of all that "shared universe" stuff that completely ruined all the comic brands. Couldn't reboot one without rebooting the others... so... BOOM, grand reset button.

Actually from what's been said it looked like it was always the plan to end things once barber and Roberts were finished, so the badly implementated hasbroverse isn't to blame for this.

I can still see it working but they need to have a better plan in place from the get go



John was planning on wrapping up his story this year and contacted James and said “I think I figured out how much I have left and then I’m done”. James said he was just looking at his outline and figured out he too wanted to wrap up his run. John contacted hasbro and told them his and James intentions and through the talks they decided maybe it’s time to conclude the entire IDW-verse. 13 years is a helluva co to unity. Longest running transformers continuity.

Re: New IDW Transformers Reboot Confirmed for 2019

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:12 am
by ZeroWolf
Thanks random :-) I knew it was something like that but couldn't remember the specifics.

Re: New IDW Transformers Reboot Confirmed for 2019

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:28 am
by Randomhero
A lot of people assumed it’s because the hasbro-verse tanked and this ending is because that or sales havent been stellar but that interview I mentioned last month from moonbase 2 with is very much worth a listen. John is very open about how they didnt intend to end thier runs till July or August last year and it was their choice. John and James made the choice, not IDW not hasbro. They were the ones that pitched it and he also reveals that it wasn’t originally unicron but something else. He doesn’t explain what but I think with everything going on in Optimus Prime we could guess it was probably Shockwave.

John also revealed he didn’t expect to be writing RID/TF/OP this long. He said usually in an ongoing youre on for maybe 8-12 issues and you move on but the impact he and James have done has been amazing and they got to go for over 6 years now.

Re: New IDW Transformers Reboot Confirmed for 2019

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:57 am
by Nexus Knight
Probably an opinion that many will disagree with, but I hope they bring the shared universe back in a heater fashion. I absolutely loved the idea, because it showed there was more than my favorite franchise there. Everything they did had consequences elsewhere. And I loved those types of stories. Plus, I got introduced to some new stuff that I now enjoy (namely M.A.S.K. and Micronauts).

Re: New IDW Transformers Reboot Confirmed for 2019

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:10 pm
by Randomhero
Nexus Knight wrote:Probably an opinion that many will disagree with, but I hope they bring the shared universe back in a heater fashion. I absolutely loved the idea, because it showed there was more than my favorite franchise there. Everything they did had consequences elsewhere. And I loved those types of stories. Plus, I got introduced to some new stuff that I now enjoy (namely M.A.S.K. and Micronauts).



I enjoyed the shared universe. I liked revolution, revolutionaries, Rom vs transformers and I’m sorry people but I enjoyed visionaries vs transformers.

I enjoy comics and in my honest opinion the vocal minority about the shared universe just reminded me of kids playing with their transformers and one kid came by and said “I just have g.i. Joes can I play?” And then other kids were bringing in their toys and the kids playing with transformers just got pissy and said they won’t bring their transformers to play anymore because everyone ruined their thing with their other It’s.

I don’t know anything about the other solo series or franchises but I really enjoyed going to the IDW wiki and learning about them.

Re: New IDW Transformers Reboot Confirmed for 2019

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:15 pm
by X3ROhour
among my various concerns for the continuity reboot is this:

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think think think


and this

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hmmmm...


and these

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the ladies!


Characters and personas we have grown to love!

not to mention, what happens to...

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my heart


and

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love, aint it grand?


As well as dozens of other things
and personalities
and ideas
and constructs
and characters
and relationships
and so on!
Do these people go back to being who the were?
Does love exist in the new World?
Do reformed bad guys go back to their old ways?
Do bots, who didn't exist before, cease to be?
:SICK:
:PRAY:
:BOOM:
Gods i hope not!
i hope that the reboot allows for some amount of leeway,
and doesn't forget the fantasticness that got us here.

Re: New IDW Transformers Reboot Confirmed for 2019

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:15 pm
by ScottyP
Randomhero wrote:A lot of people assumed it’s because the hasbro-verse tanked and this ending is because that or sales havent been stellar but that interview I mentioned last month from moonbase 2 with is very much worth a listen. John is very open about how they did it intend to end it till July or August and it was their choice. John and James made the choice, not IDW not hasbro.
This is part of it, however, the Hasbro U ending in its entirety was a business decision. That's why it went from "something else" to "Unicron". Creative teams have been finished with their contributions plenty of times (Furman, McCarthy, Costa, Scott, et al), the reset button on the whole huge thing is absolutely business driven.

It's cool with me if folks choose not to believe that. I can wait for vindication on this after some years pass and the parties involved can really say what's what, hell I'm sure I've "telephone gamed" this on accident somehow anyway :) Everything everyone else has mentioned is a factor too, if it helps!

Edit so as to not double-post:
Randomhero wrote: I don’t know anything about the other solo series or franchises but I really enjoyed going to the IDW wiki and learning about them.
Pick up the Micronauts Omnibus book tomorrow. If you liked that stuff, I think you'll really enjoy what they did. It sputters a bit in the middle but on the whole it's an extremely fun series! Even brings the "toybox come to life concept" close to literally true in one issue. "A fine weapon" - Acroyear describing a... well you'll find out

Re: New IDW Transformers Reboot Confirmed for 2019

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:03 pm
by Agent 53
Z3ROhour wrote:among my various concerns for the continuity reboot is this:

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and this

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and these

tumblr_pcuxxksATV1qfuvw9o1_1280.jpg


Characters and personas we have grown to love!

not to mention, what happens to...

Cyclonus (Dead Universe) G1.jpg


and

__c___chromedome_and_rewind_by_onitomakirei-d8obzsj.jpg


As well as dozens of other things
and personalities
and ideas
and constructs
and characters
and relationships
and so on!
Do these people go back to being who the were?
Does love exist in the new World?
Do reformed bad guys go back to their old ways?
Do bots, who didn't exist before, cease to be?
:SICK:
:PRAY:
:BOOM:
Gods i hope not!
i hope that the reboot allows for some amount of leeway,
and doesn't forget the fantasticness that got us here.

I suspect, if the writers have any intelligence, that they will find a way to maintain the characters and concepts from old-IDW in new-IDW, I mean Windblade certainly has been a key part of RID (2015) and us set for the Cyberverse cartoon (and have Hasbro really run out of name already?) so I bet the things that you, and I, love about IDW will endure.

Re: New IDW Transformers Reboot Confirmed for 2019

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:09 pm
by Amelie
I've only been getting IDW via the Hachette collected series. I've been really enjoying it. Relationships added an extra dramatic angle that Transformers didn't have before and familiar characters were explored with more depth and enough twists to stop it being Saturday AM. I wasn't always sold on the political angles, but that was a weakness in storytelling, rather than it being a bad idea to include them.

One thing (or several, depending on your view). I loathe GI Joe, ROM, MASK, Visionaries ect in my Transformers comic. Combining these into some turdstorm of a collective universe comes across as an assumption you're going to be into all of the Hasbro 'male' fandoms. The transformers vs GI mini series was fun, in its bonkers way, but the regular appearance of Joes ect in mainline makes my eyes roll back so hard I can see my brain.

So please, IDW - I just want Transformers to be Transformers. No GI Joe, My Little Pony ect in my Transformers universe or I'll probably stop reading.

Re: New IDW Transformers Reboot Confirmed for 2019

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:19 pm
by ZeroWolf
Hah I wouldn't worry about my little pony popping up outside little easter eggs here and there. Or maybe a crazy psychedelic dream sequence/acid trip, like the pink elephants on parade song in the original Dumbo movie.

Re: New IDW Transformers Reboot Confirmed for 2019

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:23 pm
by Randomhero
ScottyP wrote:
Randomhero wrote:A lot of people assumed it’s because the hasbro-verse tanked and this ending is because that or sales havent been stellar but that interview I mentioned last month from moonbase 2 with is very much worth a listen. John is very open about how they did it intend to end it till July or August and it was their choice. John and James made the choice, not IDW not hasbro.
This is part of it, however, the Hasbro U ending in its entirety was a business decision. That's why it went from "something else" to "Unicron". Creative teams have been finished with their contributions plenty of times (Furman, McCarthy, Costa, Scott, et al), the reset button on the whole huge thing is absolutely business driven.

It's cool with me if folks choose not to believe that. I can wait for vindication on this after some years pass and the parties involved can really say what's what, hell I'm sure I've "telephone gamed" this on accident somehow anyway :) Everything everyone else has mentioned is a factor too, if it helps!

Edit so as to not double-post:
Randomhero wrote: I don’t know anything about the other solo series or franchises but I really enjoyed going to the IDW wiki and learning about them.
Pick up the Micronauts Omnibus book tomorrow. If you liked that stuff, I think you'll really enjoy what they did. It sputters a bit in the middle but on the whole it's an extremely fun series! Even brings the "toybox come to life concept" close to literally true in one issue. "A fine weapon" - Acroyear describing a... well you'll find out


Well that was also under Andy Schmidt who was legitimately making some bad calls and just wanting to “BOOST SALES BOOST SALES! New soft reboot here! New soft reboot there! Focus on 1984! That’s what people know!’

I don’t know I mean John says it was their choice to put it to a close. He said in the interview him and James went to the guy that works for Hasbro and intermediates between Hasbro and IDW and said they were planning on just concluding their stories and passing the torch but through the talks they pitched maybe just concluding the entire universe and Hasbro said sure.

Re: New IDW Transformers Reboot Confirmed for 2019

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:01 pm
by Burn
heh...I thought it had already been confirmed. Yay me for assumptions!

They've set themselves an incredibly high standard to reach though. I doubt anyone who was there at the beginning thought they would do a 13 year run which at the heart of it was one big story with many, MANY branches. It gave us old characters through fresh eyes, it gave us lesser known characters who finally were given character, it gave us new characters, and they're wrapping it up with a neat little bow on top (hopefully).

To top all of that, they're really going to have to step up.

Or they could just become Marvel/DC and churn out a monthly book that really doesn't do much other than throw in some shock value with the death/return of some character that's quickly forgotten about in two months.

And if they want to try the shared universe again, this is a good chance. Let each line establish itself before bringing them together, but make it flow naturally. Don't just force them together, that didn't work out too well last time.

Re: New IDW Transformers Reboot Confirmed for 2019

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:37 pm
by ZeroWolf
A big question would be how they would set G.I. Joe up with transformers since as soon as the tf's started fighting in public on earth, the Joes would know about it. I mean, that's if they didn't already know about them, government secrets and all that. Maybe they should just stick with a "don't ask too many questions and just roll with it" approach :lol:

Re: New IDW Transformers Reboot Confirmed for 2019

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:04 pm
by Burn
You're working on the presumption that they'll be on Earth.

Re: New IDW Transformers Reboot Confirmed for 2019

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:08 pm
by ZeroWolf
More like the assumption they'll be on earth at some point. I expect for the beginning they'll be on cybertron, as a sort of tie in to Siege

Re: New IDW Transformers Reboot Confirmed for 2019

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:53 pm
by Amelie
As an aside - I really want IDW to stop doing the previews. Sometimes you can actually keep up with the plot developments just by putting 2+2 together from two months of previews. That really needs to stop....

Re: New IDW Transformers Reboot Confirmed for 2019

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:58 pm
by Burn
Amelie wrote:As an aside - I really want IDW to stop doing the previews. Sometimes you can actually keep up with the plot developments just by putting 2+2 together from two months of previews. That really needs to stop....

100% agree with this, and it's something I've bitched to Va'al about on numerous occasions. Quite often there's a small window between when the latest book is released and previews for upcoming books. Discussion about the latest book is quickly replaced by discussion about the previews, one reason I stopped discussing the comics on here.

Re: New IDW Transformers Reboot Confirmed for 2019

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:05 pm
by ZeroWolf
While I can't see IDW stopping them, we could talk about their impact here, would it be better if the previews were handled like the last post light one where you had to follow the link to get to it instead of having the pages mirrored?

Re: New IDW Transformers Reboot Confirmed for 2019

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:19 pm
by D-Maximal_Primal
ZeroWolf wrote:While I can't see IDW stopping them, we could talk about their impact here, would it be better if the previews were handled like the last post light one where you had to follow the link to get to it instead of having the pages mirrored?

I agree it would be better this way.

As for the new comics, While I loved IDW and what it's done, I'm hoping for a WFC tie in. I wouldn't mind some old war stories. Fall of Cybertron the video game did a great job of this, and is still considered by me to be one of the best TF stories, so something along the games lines but in comic form would be cool.

Besides, don't forget, there are usually a lot more civilians than combatants in wars