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TRansformers are mostly boy toys but since they do have fembots .Shouldn't HAsbro have transformers for girls? They can have a line with only female transformers. Have actually a boy or two in the line even though they are really needed. The fembots don't need to compete or impress them to reproduce only to impress or companionship. They should have female leaders as well.

The problem is that fans may not react in a ay that would be..enjoyable. Not to mentio a large portion of fanbase was founded by mostly male transformers. It'd be like what happened after the proposal of Arcee.

I'd like a series that had all the popular male TF's and had a bunch of femmes too.
The thing I would dread though is that they would make all the girls ditzy, frilly, or so freakin' hardcore that nobody likes them...
I want some femmes with realistic personalities.

babylon queen wrote:TRansformers are mostly boy toys but since they do have fembots .Shouldn't HAsbro have transformers for girls? They can have a line with only female transformers. Have actually a boy or two in the line even though they are really needed. The fembots don't need to compete or impress them to reproduce only to impress or companionship. They should have female leaders as well.

But, who is to say that they can't reproduce with the boys? They are living beings you know. They are life forms. Life forms have to be capable of reproduction. Why else would they court each other and form romantic pair bonds, and even marry (according to the Japanese Victory manga, Deathaurus was married to a fem named Esmeryl.)

Siren Prime wrote: I'd like a series that had all the popular male TF's and had a bunch of femmes too.
The thing I would dread though is that they would make all the girls ditzy, frilly, or so freakin' hardcore that nobody likes them...
I want some femmes with realistic personalities.

Femmes of all types are great. I too wish there were more of them.

Tramp wrote:

Siren Prime wrote: I'd like a series that had all the popular male TF's and had a bunch of femmes too.
The thing I would dread though is that they would make all the girls ditzy, frilly, or so freakin' hardcore that nobody likes them...
I want some femmes with realistic personalities.

Femmes of all types are great. I too wish there were more of them.

You're right... femmes rule...
But it's just annoying to have them show nothing but irratating qualities.
Like Thunderblast for example. She's a stupid, ditzy, fangirly, vindictive twit!! And that's it. There are no other qualities to her.

Sure they had another femme in the Cycertron series. Override!!
She was awesome!! A leader, smart, tough...
But from what I heard from someone else, Override wasn't even a girl originally. She was a guy in the Japanese version!!

They just turned her into a girl in the English version so that the feminist viewers wouldn't be pissed that the only female character (Thunderblast) was an idiot.

That's what I heard...

Siren Prime wrote:

Tramp wrote:

Siren Prime wrote: I'd like a series that had all the popular male TF's and had a bunch of femmes too.
The thing I would dread though is that they would make all the girls ditzy, frilly, or so freakin' hardcore that nobody likes them...
I want some femmes with realistic personalities.

Femmes of all types are great. I too wish there were more of them.

You're right... femmes rule...
But it's just annoying to have them show nothing but irratating qualities.
Like Thunderblast for example. She's a stupid, ditzy, fangirly, vindictive twit!! And that's it. There are no other qualities to her.

Sure they had another femme in the Cycertron series. Override!!
She was awesome!! A leader, smart, tough...
But from what I heard from someone else, Override wasn't even a girl originally. She was a guy in the Japanese version!!

They just turned her into a girl in the English version so that the feminist viewers wouldn't be pissed that the only female character (Thunderblast) was an idiot.

That's what I heard...

Personally, I loved Thunderblast for the very reasons you hated her. Come on a "Valley Girl" Decepticon? She had me in stitches. As for Override, She was a great character, and, yes, in Galaxy Force, Override's Japanese counterpart, Nitro Convoy, is technically male. Hasbro made Override female because they needed at least one female Autobot in the story. They chose Override because that mold was the most "feminine" of all of the Cybertron designs with the high heels and such, even though the body is as unfeminie as you can get, Though I have known a few women in real life with bodies like that.

Tramp wrote:

Siren Prime wrote:

Tramp wrote:

Siren Prime wrote: I'd like a series that had all the popular male TF's and had a bunch of femmes too.
The thing I would dread though is that they would make all the girls ditzy, frilly, or so freakin' hardcore that nobody likes them...
I want some femmes with realistic personalities.

Femmes of all types are great. I too wish there were more of them.

You're right... femmes rule...
But it's just annoying to have them show nothing but irratating qualities.
Like Thunderblast for example. She's a stupid, ditzy, fangirly, vindictive twit!! And that's it. There are no other qualities to her.

Sure they had another femme in the Cycertron series. Override!!
She was awesome!! A leader, smart, tough...
But from what I heard from someone else, Override wasn't even a girl originally. She was a guy in the Japanese version!!

They just turned her into a girl in the English version so that the feminist viewers wouldn't be pissed that the only female character (Thunderblast) was an idiot.

That's what I heard...

Personally, I loved Thunderblast for the very reasons you hated her. Come on a "Valley Girl" Decepticon? She had me in stitches. As for Override, She was a great character, and, yes, in Galaxy Force, Override's Japanese counterpart, Nitro Convoy, is technically male. Hasbro made Override female because they needed at least one female Autobot in the story. They chose Override because that mold was the most "feminine" of all of the Cybertron designs with the high heels and such, even though the body is as unfeminie as you can get, Though I have known a few women in real life with bodies like that.

Yeah, I guess...
But come on!! I want some vicious Decepti-Femmes!!
And more Autobot femmes too...

Tramp wrote:Personally, I loved Thunderblast for the very reasons you hated her. Come on a "Valley Girl" Decepticon? She had me in stitches. As for Override, She was a great character, and, yes, in Galaxy Force, Override's Japanese counterpart, Nitro Convoy, is technically male. Hasbro made Override female because they needed at least one female Autobot in the story. They chose Override because that mold was the most "feminine" of all of the Cybertron designs with the high heels and such, even though the body is as unfeminie as you can get, Though I have known a few women in real life with bodies like that.

I'm not so sure that it was because they needed another female, as they did not feel that the relationships between Hot Shot, and Override, and Override and Lori were NOT really appropriate U.S. kid material if Override was male.

That's what I remember hearing anyway, but I'm not sure.

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Tramp wrote:

Siren Prime wrote:

Tramp wrote:

Siren Prime wrote: I'd like a series that had all the popular male TF's and had a bunch of femmes too.
The thing I would dread though is that they would make all the girls ditzy, frilly, or so freakin' hardcore that nobody likes them...
I want some femmes with realistic personalities.

Femmes of all types are great. I too wish there were more of them.

You're right... femmes rule...
But it's just annoying to have them show nothing but irratating qualities.
Like Thunderblast for example. She's a stupid, ditzy, fangirly, vindictive twit!! And that's it. There are no other qualities to her.

Sure they had another femme in the Cycertron series. Override!!
She was awesome!! A leader, smart, tough...
But from what I heard from someone else, Override wasn't even a girl originally. She was a guy in the Japanese version!!

They just turned her into a girl in the English version so that the feminist viewers wouldn't be pissed that the only female character (Thunderblast) was an idiot.

That's what I heard...

Personally, I loved Thunderblast for the very reasons you hated her. Come on a "Valley Girl" Decepticon? She had me in stitches. As for Override, She was a great character, and, yes, in Galaxy Force, Override's Japanese counterpart, Nitro Convoy, is technically male. Hasbro made Override female because they needed at least one female Autobot in the story. They chose Override because that mold was the most "feminine" of all of the Cybertron designs with the high heels and such, even though the body is as unfeminie as you can get, Though I have known a few women in real life with bodies like that.

Yeah, I guess...
But come on!! I want some vicious Decepti-Femmes!!
And more Autobot femmes too...

So do I. I'm a guy, and I just love Fem bots, the more the better. A number of my customs are fem bots, both Autobot and Decepticon. Some of my favorite G1 characters were the femmes— Elita-One, Chromia, Firestar, Moonracer, Arcee, Nightbird. I loved them all, even though only Arcee had a regular recurring role. I wish they all had toys. That's why I've been biulding my own versions of them, and a few others.

Tramp wrote:

Siren Prime wrote:

Tramp wrote:

Siren Prime wrote:

Tramp wrote:

Siren Prime wrote: I'd like a series that had all the popular male TF's and had a bunch of femmes too.
The thing I would dread though is that they would make all the girls ditzy, frilly, or so freakin' hardcore that nobody likes them...
I want some femmes with realistic personalities.

Femmes of all types are great. I too wish there were more of them.

You're right... femmes rule...
But it's just annoying to have them show nothing but irratating qualities.
Like Thunderblast for example. She's a stupid, ditzy, fangirly, vindictive twit!! And that's it. There are no other qualities to her.

Sure they had another femme in the Cycertron series. Override!!
She was awesome!! A leader, smart, tough...
But from what I heard from someone else, Override wasn't even a girl originally. She was a guy in the Japanese version!!

They just turned her into a girl in the English version so that the feminist viewers wouldn't be pissed that the only female character (Thunderblast) was an idiot.

That's what I heard...

Personally, I loved Thunderblast for the very reasons you hated her. Come on a "Valley Girl" Decepticon? She had me in stitches. As for Override, She was a great character, and, yes, in Galaxy Force, Override's Japanese counterpart, Nitro Convoy, is technically male. Hasbro made Override female because they needed at least one female Autobot in the story. They chose Override because that mold was the most "feminine" of all of the Cybertron designs with the high heels and such, even though the body is as unfeminie as you can get, Though I have known a few women in real life with bodies like that.

Yeah, I guess...
But come on!! I want some vicious Decepti-Femmes!!
And more Autobot femmes too...

So do I. I'm a guy, and I just love Fem bots, the more the better. A number of my customs are fem bots, both Autobot and Decepticon. Some of my favorite G1 characters were the femmes— Elita-One, Chromia, Firestar, Moonracer, Arcee, Nightbird. I loved them all, even though only Arcee had a regular recurring role. I wish they all had toys. That's why I've been biulding my own versions of them, and a few others.

That's cool!!
The more femme-fans the better!!
I was ticked when they booted Arcee out of the movie though...
I don't understand why fans didn't want her...

Siren Prime wrote:That's cool!!
The more femme-fans the better!!
I was ticked when they booted Arcee out of the movie though...
I don't understand why fans didn't want her...

Some fans can't wrap their heads around the idea of robots having genders (sexes), and see no need for female Transformers at all. They don't like the concept and never will. Personally, I don't see why there wouldn't be female Transformers. I also see no reason why Transformers can't reproduce just like us, yet some fans can't get past the idea of them being robots and not organic, and thus shouldn'follow the same laws regarding life forms. Even More than Meets the Ey #8 states that there are other untapped methods of creating new Cybetronina life besides imbuing a protoform with a spark. Also, the Victory manga did show the children of the Dinoforce, along with Deathsaurus' wife and Liozak's sister, and G1 Wheelie was a child as well. Fi you have males, females, marriages, families, and children, something must be going on. transformers created from Protoforms all have fully adult bodies, not child bodies.

I don't give a rip about femme-bots. After all, there appear to be plenty of OC chicks, myself included!

Tramp wrote:

Siren Prime wrote:That's cool!!
The more femme-fans the better!!
I was ticked when they booted Arcee out of the movie though...
I don't understand why fans didn't want her...

Some fans can't wrap their heads around the idea of robots having genders (sexes), and see no need for female Transformers at all. They don't like the concept and never will. Personally, I don't see why there wouldn't be female Transformers. I also see no reason why Transformers can't reproduce just like us, yet some fans can't get past the idea of them being robots and not organic, and thus shouldn'follow the same laws regarding life forms. Even More than Meets the Ey #8 states that there are other untapped methods of creating new Cybetronina life besides imbuing a protoform with a spark. Also, the Victory manga did show the children of the Dinoforce, along with Deathsaurus' wife and Liozak's sister, and G1 Wheelie was a child as well. Fi you have males, females, marriages, families, and children, something must be going on. transformers created from Protoforms all have fully adult bodies, not child bodies.

I like to think of Transformers having genders, being in love, and having children too.
Some people just can stand it though...
I personally like thinking of little transformer children with the child bodies too, though!!
My theory is that if a transformer couple want children then they take samples of their sparks, put them into a machine of sorts, and Primus does the rest.
That's just my fan-theory though.
It's nice to meet someone else with flexible thoughts though. ^^

Night Raid wrote:I don't give a rip about femme-bots. After all, there appear to be plenty of OC chicks, myself included!

Yeah, I have OC femmes too.
But it would be nice if there were more official ones though.

Night Raid wrote:I don't give a rip about femme-bots. After all, there appear to be plenty of OC chicks, myself included!

Yeah, but it would still be nice of their were more official ones. So far, there are only a handful, and even those are divided between different universes and time lines. In G1 we had Elita-1, Chromia, Firestar, Moonracer, Arcee, and Beta. In Beast Wars/Beast Machines, we had Black Arachnia, Airrazor, Strika, and Botanica. In Armada (comics), we had Airazor (taken from another universe), the minicons, Sureshock, Cliffjumper, Spiral, and Ironhide. In Energon, we had Arcee, and in Cybertron, we had Thunderblast and Override, as well as that unnamed motorcycle civilian Autobot. That is a total of 19 offical female Transformers (18 if you count Beastwars Airazor and Armada Airrazor as the same character). If you add in the BotCon exclusive characters, Glyph, Antagony, Chromia, Flareup, Roulette, Shadowstryker, and Flamewar, the total climbs to only 26 femmes, 27 if you add in Nightbird, though she wasn't an actual Transformer.

Tramp wrote:

Night Raid wrote:I don't give a rip about femme-bots. After all, there appear to be plenty of OC chicks, myself included!

Yeah, but it would still be nice of their were more official ones. So far, there are only a handful, and even those are divided between different universes and time lines. In G1 we had Elita-1, Chromia, Firestar, Moonracer, Arcee, and Beta. In Beast Wars/Beast Machines, we had Black Arachnia, Airrazor, Strika, and Botanica. In Armada (comics), we had Airazor (taken from another universe), the minicons, Sureshock, Cliffjumper, Spiral, and Ironhide. In Energon, we had Arcee, and in Cybertron, we had Thunderblast and Override, as well as that unnamed motorcycle civilian Autobot. That is a total of 19 offical female Transformers (18 if you count Beastwars Airazor and Armada Airrazor as the same character). If you add in the BotCon exclusive characters, Glyph, Antagony, Chromia, Flareup, Roulette, Shadowstryker, and Flamewar, the total climbs to only 26 femmes, 27 if you add in Nightbird, though she wasn't an actual Transformer.

Yeah, and compare that to the HUGE number of mechs (male TF's), and you have a very uneven ratio.

Siren Prime wrote:

Night Raid wrote:I don't give a rip about femme-bots. After all, there appear to be plenty of OC chicks, myself included!

Yeah, I have OC femmes too.
But it would be nice if there were more official ones though.

I have a few OC femmes I've created or come up with concepts for as well. I don't know whether to count recreating Nightbird as a Seeker would count because she was a G1 character, I just made her into a Seeker. The three tyruely OC femmes I've created though are her subordinates, the Decepticon Furies. They're a trio of female Deceptcons, named Malice, Ferocity, and Discord. So far, I've made figures for Ferocity and Discord.

Siren Prime wrote:

Tramp wrote:

Night Raid wrote:I don't give a rip about femme-bots. After all, there appear to be plenty of OC chicks, myself included!

Yeah, but it would still be nice of their were more official ones. So far, there are only a handful, and even those are divided between different universes and time lines. In G1 we had Elita-1, Chromia, Firestar, Moonracer, Arcee, and Beta. In Beast Wars/Beast Machines, we had Black Arachnia, Airrazor, Strika, and Botanica. In Armada (comics), we had Airazor (taken from another universe), the minicons, Sureshock, Cliffjumper, Spiral, and Ironhide. In Energon, we had Arcee, and in Cybertron, we had Thunderblast and Override, as well as that unnamed motorcycle civilian Autobot. That is a total of 19 offical female Transformers (18 if you count Beastwars Airazor and Armada Airrazor as the same character). If you add in the BotCon exclusive characters, Glyph, Antagony, Chromia, Flareup, Roulette, Shadowstryker, and Flamewar, the total climbs to only 26 femmes, 27 if you add in Nightbird, though she wasn't an actual Transformer.

Yeah, and compare that to the HUGE number of mechs (male TF's), and you have a very uneven ratio.

Exactly, which is probably why we don't see more Transformers beong bornm from unions between males and females among Cybetronians. Though I do think Moonracer might be Ironhide and Chromia's daughter.

Tramp wrote:

Siren Prime wrote:

Night Raid wrote:I don't give a rip about femme-bots. After all, there appear to be plenty of OC chicks, myself included!

Yeah, I have OC femmes too.
But it would be nice if there were more official ones though.

I have a few OC femmes I've created or come up with concepts for as well. I don't know whether to count recreating Nightbird as a Seeker would count because she was a G1 character, I just made her into a Seeker. The three tyruely OC femmes I've created though are her subordinates, the Decepticon Furies. They're a trio of female Deceptcons, named Malice, Ferocity, and Discord. So far, I've made figures for Ferocity and Discord.

That sounds awesome.
Do you have versions of them in the HMW?
My OC's right now are Siren Prime, Astrigear, and Jetason.
I'll be making more and putting in their bios soon.

Tramp wrote:

Siren Prime wrote:

Tramp wrote:

Night Raid wrote:I don't give a rip about femme-bots. After all, there appear to be plenty of OC chicks, myself included!

Yeah, but it would still be nice of their were more official ones. So far, there are only a handful, and even those are divided between different universes and time lines. In G1 we had Elita-1, Chromia, Firestar, Moonracer, Arcee, and Beta. In Beast Wars/Beast Machines, we had Black Arachnia, Airrazor, Strika, and Botanica. In Armada (comics), we had Airazor (taken from another universe), the minicons, Sureshock, Cliffjumper, Spiral, and Ironhide. In Energon, we had Arcee, and in Cybertron, we had Thunderblast and Override, as well as that unnamed motorcycle civilian Autobot. That is a total of 19 offical female Transformers (18 if you count Beastwars Airazor and Armada Airrazor as the same character). If you add in the BotCon exclusive characters, Glyph, Antagony, Chromia, Flareup, Roulette, Shadowstryker, and Flamewar, the total climbs to only 26 femmes, 27 if you add in Nightbird, though she wasn't an actual Transformer.

Yeah, and compare that to the HUGE number of mechs (male TF's), and you have a very uneven ratio.

Exactly, which is probably why we don't see more Transformers beong bornm from unions between males and females among Cybetronians. Though I do think Moonracer might be Ironhide and Chromia's daughter.

Well, you know, I'll bet there are many more and they just don't make appearences...

Well, according to G1 canon, female Cybertronians are extremely rare for some reason. We do see a few more unnamed femmes in the background of War Within, but not many. Even Kup says in Arcee's MtMtE write-up that Femmes are very, very rare, to the point of being almost unheard of. Something must have happened to most of them during the war for there to be so few.

Tramp wrote:Well, according to G1 canon, female Cybertronians are extremely rare for some reason. We do see a few more unnamed femmes in the background of War Within, but not many. Even Kup says in Arcee's MtMtE write-up that Femmes are very, very rare, to the point of being almost unheard of. Something must have happened to most of them during the war for there to be so few.

I don't know if it's true or not, but I heard somewhere that the Decepticons rounded most of them up and massacered them.
Call it wishful thinking, but I like to think of a TF world where they're all back.

That is quite possible, but we don't really know for sure.

If the cons did kill most of the females Autobots, then what happened to the female cons?

Tangent wrote:If the cons did kill most of the females Autobots, then what happened to the female cons?

Who knows?
Like I said I don't know whether my statement is true or not...
But I do think it's highly unlikely that the Autobot's took them out.
Most Autobots aren't cruel enough to do that.