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Well, since the other one got into a huge argumant and noone looks at it anymore, I'll make a new, fresh one.

1.I want to get this straight... Unicron exists in the MULtiverse, and can travel freely between UNIverses. Primus, on the other hand, exists in all UNIverses at once, and each one is Primus' body. Is this right?-ANSWERED

2.Before the dawn of time, Order and Chaos existed within an extradimensional entity known as the One. He created twin astral beings to reign over the cosmos: Primus and Unicron. Their nature differed, as Primus's lifeforce was a multiversal singularity; existing across all Transformers realities at oncewhereas Unicron existed in only one dimension at a time but could travel relatively freely between them. Primus was the Lord of Light and Order, and Unicron, the Lord of Darkness and Chaos. They fought for thousands of years, until Primus had no choice but so sacrafice himself to trap himself and his brother inside two giant hollow asteroids. Unicron’s dark essence managed to escape, and so it began searching for a new body. Primus had sensed Unicron escaped, and prepared for their next meeting, creating 13 robots to aid him in his fight. He also sent out his essense to a lab, where a being named Primacron worked. He was a brilliant scientist. But the essence did not go to him, but to his assistant. Primus sent a telepathical message with his essence telling him to find a way to contain it so that Primus’ robots could use it againt Unicron. Without his essence, then, Primus’ body was no longer that, it was just a planey. The assistant put the essence inside two handles, which contained the energy, and placed it in a secret place. Unfortunately for Primus, Unicron had sensed the energy and tracked it down to the lab. Witnessing Primacron’s ability to build amazing technology, Unicron telepathically planted a thought in Primacron’s head: “Build a gigantic robot to wipe out the universe, and remake it in your own image.” So, within time, it had been done. Unicron’s essence immediately took shelter in to robot, possessing it. He swiftly destroyed Primacron’s lab, killing his assistant and badly hurting Primacron. Primus’ essence (The Matrix) escaped the ordeal, and retreated back to Cybertron (Primus’ Prison asteroid). Unicron, in his new body, scanned his former prison asteroid as an alternative mode. Unicron then created an army of twisted beings called the Quintessons to find Primus’ body (Cybertron) and destroy. They did find it, but they didn’t report back to their master. They, instead, enslaved the entire robot population there, removing their sparks. The sparks were able to create a mini alternate dimension for themselves to exist in- the Allspark. The Quintessons found the Matrix, and sealed it away. Then one day, a robot codenamed A3 stumbled upon the Matrix. It showed him Primus’ vision and gave him back his spark…

-Is this a good explanation for G1 toons? Please proofread for me, as I am not very good at it.

If I think of any other q's, I'll post em here.

EDIT: And please, let's keep it civil, *coughdamolishercoughtramp*.

I think that it was just a friendly debate in the other tread.Nobody was fighting anymore.But to answer your question as best as I can......Primus fragment his essence threw out the different Universes so to created a larger army to combat Unicron.So there is a part of him in every Universe.

.../part of him is in every one of his bodies/Cybertron?

Eradicator wrote:.../part of him is in every one of his bodies/Cybertron?

I think thats the idea but I'm not sayin its fact.

BUMP for update.

I see elements of my fanfic in that toon explaination.

I never thought of why the Matrix went to Cybertron, but the essence of Primus returning to his body (and his children) after it believing the assistant and Primacron were killed is a good theory. I think I may adopt that.

Nice, now work on a explanation on how Megatron and the Construticons created each other

Insurgent wrote:I see elements of my fanfic in that toon explaination.

I never thought of why the Matrix went to Cybertron, but the essence of Primus returning to his body (and his children) after it believing the assistant and Primacron were killed is a good theory. I think I may adopt that.

Is all of that from your fan-fic?.

Stormwolf wrote:Nice, now work on a explanation on how Megatron and the Construticons created each other

It was never said that the Construticons "CREATED" Megatron.What they do say is "Megatron was born" and we see a bunch of Construticons around him.First of all there were more then 6 of these socall Construticons and it could be that they were repairing a fallen comrad and that they upgraded him to Megatron just like Alpha Trion did for Orion Pax.As for Megatron's claim about building the Construticons in the episode "Heavy metal war" I see it as him meaning that they built them new bodys on earth.Some time you cant take words too litarally.

Yeah, see, that's exactly the same as the theory I came up with a while back. Great minds think alike. If I had a mind, that is.

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Insurgent wrote:I see elements of my fanfic in that toon explaination.

I never thought of why the Matrix went to Cybertron, but the essence of Primus returning to his body (and his children) after it believing the assistant and Primacron were killed is a good theory. I think I may adopt that.

Is all of that from your fan-fic?.

Chunks of it are in Conquest Cybertron. It's not exactly the same, but close enough to see the toon part of the theory is inspired by it. Though that deals with the toon only and Primus didn't create the tf's, but the whole 'mentaly pursuading Primacron/assistant' debacle is.

Insurgent wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Insurgent wrote:I see elements of my fanfic in that toon explaination.

I never thought of why the Matrix went to Cybertron, but the essence of Primus returning to his body (and his children) after it believing the assistant and Primacron were killed is a good theory. I think I may adopt that.

Is all of that from your fan-fic?.

Chunks of it are in Conquest Cybertron. It's not exactly the same, but close enough to see the toon part of the theory is inspired by it. Though that deals with the toon only and Primus didn't create the tf's, but the whole 'mentaly pursuading Primacron/assistant' debacle is.

I have heard of "Conquest Cybertron" before but never read it....do you guys know where I can?

Damolisher wrote:Yeah, see, that's exactly the same as the theory I came up with a while back. Great minds think alike. If I had a mind, that is.

Dude you dont know how many theory's I put together.Primus,Unicron,Primacron,Vecto Sigma,The 13,Quintasons and more.I could preety much explain all the mix up's.But thats all in my head.

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Insurgent wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Insurgent wrote:I see elements of my fanfic in that toon explaination.

I never thought of why the Matrix went to Cybertron, but the essence of Primus returning to his body (and his children) after it believing the assistant and Primacron were killed is a good theory. I think I may adopt that.

Is all of that from your fan-fic?.

Chunks of it are in Conquest Cybertron. It's not exactly the same, but close enough to see the toon part of the theory is inspired by it. Though that deals with the toon only and Primus didn't create the tf's, but the whole 'mentaly pursuading Primacron/assistant' debacle is.

I have heard of "Conquest Cybertron" before but never read it....do you guys know where I can?

Link in my sig. You've heard of it before? I hope I didn't accidentaly steal the title from somewhere else.

BTW, once you've read that, feel free to read the spin off 'Stunshock'. [/Shameless Plug]

Insurgent wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Insurgent wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Insurgent wrote:I see elements of my fanfic in that toon explaination.

I never thought of why the Matrix went to Cybertron, but the essence of Primus returning to his body (and his children) after it believing the assistant and Primacron were killed is a good theory. I think I may adopt that.

Is all of that from your fan-fic?.

Chunks of it are in Conquest Cybertron. It's not exactly the same, but close enough to see the toon part of the theory is inspired by it. Though that deals with the toon only and Primus didn't create the tf's, but the whole 'mentaly pursuading Primacron/assistant' debacle is.

I have heard of "Conquest Cybertron" before but never read it....do you guys know where I can?

Link in my sig. You've heard of it before? I hope I didn't accidentaly steal the title from somewhere else.

BTW, once you've read that, feel free to read the spin off 'Stunshock'. [/Shameless Plug]

No I remember hearing about it on this site....Maybe yu have brought it up in an other tread and it just stuck in the back of my mind.

I do have a habit of shamelessly plugging my fanfics at appropriate points so I probably have mentioned it elsewhere.

Read it though, Conquest is my favourite of the three I've written so far. I really need to stop shameless plugs. Like tf collecting, it's a disease with me.